Zone1 “If the universe had a beginning, then we cannot avoid the question of creation.”

[DonGlock26]

yes, but only from the perspective of the physical , which is rather a captive stance Don

~S~

What other perspectives are there?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's all we , as physical beings, are privy to FF

~S~

Or can be privy to.

 

[DonGlock26]

Elaborate. how does DNA prove a creator?

I didn't say that it proves that a creator exists. I believe the complexity of DNA's information and cellular structures point towards an intelligent creator.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I didn't say that it proves that a creator exists. I believe the complexity of DNA's information and cellular structures point towards an intelligent creator.

The principles of selection and evolution explain how things that look designed, aren't.

 

[DonGlock26]

The principles of selection and evolution explain how things that look designed, aren't.

How did DNA and the cellular data processors that read the data evolve originally?

 

[DonGlock26]

Interesting stuff.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How did DNA and the cellular data processors that read the data evolve originally?

They evolved together, via selection.

 

[DonGlock26]

They evolved together, via selection.

How did they begin evolving?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How did they begin evolving?

Via selection. There is no reason they wouldn't have. Chemical reactions happen.

 

[DonGlock26]

Via selection. There is no reason they wouldn't have. Chemical reactions happen.

So, have scientist created chemical reactions that turn into DNA and cellular structures that can decode the DNA in the lab?

 

[BULLDOG]

I didn't say that it proves that a creator exists. I believe the complexity of DNA's information and cellular structures point towards an intelligent creator.

Bottom line. We have no idea if/when/how the universe started. You are free to entertain any theory you choose. Nobody has presented any proof that a creator is more likely than scientific theories. You need more than the word of two people who wrote a book to convince anybody.

 

[sparky]

Interesting stuff.

more fat for the fire then Don>>>

~S~

 

[DonGlock26]

Bottom line. We have no idea if/when/how the universe started. You are free to entertain any theory you choose. Nobody has presented any proof that a creator is more likely than scientific theories. You need more than the word of two people who wrote a book to convince anybody.

I disagree. We know the universe exists now. The current scientific estimate is that the universe is 13.8 billion years old. We don't know the how part, but the Big Bang Theory disproved the 19th century view of a static universe with no creation event. The BBT points towards a start point some 13.8 billion years ago.

 

[BULLDOG]

I disagree. We know the universe exists now. The current scientific estimate is that the universe is 13.8 billion years old. We don't know the how part, but the Big Bang Theory disproved the 19th century view of a static universe with no creation event. The BBT points towards a start point some 13.8 billion years ago.

The big bang theory disproved nothing. If it is ever proven as a fact, it will disprove much, but is still just a theory, and as such seems to be our best guess, but not proven. Kinda like the theory of gravity.

 

[midcan5]

Round and round we go. Actually when you think about it, it doesn't matter what you believe for every day we experience death in our unconscious sleep, I do like waking but one day or night that will be lights out for good, so enjoy this waking up. Dah universe don't care.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, have scientist created chemical reactions that turn into DNA and cellular structures that can decode the DNA in the lab?

Have scientists created a star or a volcano in a lab?

No?

Yet we know how stars form.

 

[DonGlock26]

Thats enough interrogation. If you have a point, you can make it regardless of what I know or think.

Very well.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Very well.

Well?

 

[DonGlock26]

Well?

Well what? I've been making my points throughout the thread.

I don't believe that your virtual particle is real.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well what? I've been making my points throughout the thread.

I don't believe that your virtual particle is real.

So? That doesn't change the fact that they are real. We measure their effects.

And it's not "mine". No, you did not upend all of quantum physics with your first, gut feeling. Sorry.