Zone1 “If the universe had a beginning, then we cannot avoid the question of creation.”

[DonGlock26]

probably due to our view from the physical realm Don

irrc, Einstein forwarded similar conjecture toward the end of his life ......

~S~

Can you expound on that?

 

[DonGlock26]

Your previous posts said what those two people put in a book. Hard credible evidence is lacking.

You don't think red shift, CBR, and DNA are hard credible evidence?

 

[DonGlock26]

Zygotes have no more consciousness than trimmed fingernail clippings, regardless of where they came from.

But, where do they come from?

 

[DonGlock26]

To start: 0 charge, 0 energy. Two virtual particles: net 0 charge, 0 energy. The amount of Charge and energy are conserved.



The energy we observe in radiation and matter may be perfectly balanced out by the negative energy of gravity.

This could result in a net zero energy universe. Thus an entire universe can pop into existence from nothing.

Can you define what a virtual particle is?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Can you define what a virtual particle is?

Mostly a useful mathematical tool, as i understand it. They annihilate each other on such a short time scale that they cannot be directly observed.

Its a particle/antipartocle pair that forms from nothing and then annihilates itself.

However, they can have real world effects, like Hawking radiation and emissions from single atoms.

Best i can do.

 

[sparky]

Can you expound on that?

well i can google Einstein Don, but (at the moment, pardon my adhd) i find this far more interesting >>>>>

In May 1921, American polymath Walter Russell entered a 39-day coma-like state, during which he claimed to have accessed “the source of all knowledge.” Upon awakening, he frantically wrote down what he had seen—pages filled with philosophical, scientific, and spiritual revelations that would later form the foundation of his manuscript The Universal One. Though he sent his findings to 500 leading minds of the time, nearly all dismissed him as mad—except one. Nikola Tesla, the visionary inventor, was so struck by Russell’s insights that he urged him to seal the work away for a thousand years, insisting that humanity was not yet ready for its truths.

Walter Russell’s revelations reimagined the very structure of reality. He argued that matter was not solid but crystallized light slowed by thought—that everything around us, from rocks to human bodies, was composed of light patterns, shaped by consciousness. He believed the universe was fundamentally mental, not material, and that all things moved in rhythmic cycles—expansion and contraction, like breath. He dismissed opposites like good and evil as illusions, asserting instead that everything sought harmony and balance. To Russell, death wasn’t an end but the release of compressed light returning to its source. Even time, he claimed, wasn’t linear, but a spiral where past, present, and future coexisted.

These ideas were radically ahead of their time, blending metaphysics, wave dynamics, and a deep sense of universal unity. He believed electricity was a living spiral of energy, not merely electrons in motion, and that the vacuum of space was in fact a vibrant sea of untapped potential. Health, in his view, was the natural rhythm of the body, and disease was simply a disruption of that flow. Though ignored or ridiculed during his lifetime, Russell’s work now draws new attention in an era where quantum physics and consciousness studies begin to echo the same questions. To many, he is no longer a forgotten eccentric, but a prophet of a paradigm yet to come.

~S~

 

[DonGlock26]

well i can google Einstein Don, but (at the moment, pardon my adhd) i find this far more interesting >>>>>
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In May 1921, American polymath Walter Russell entered a 39-day coma-like state, during which he claimed to have accessed “the source of all knowledge.” Upon awakening, he frantically wrote down what he had seen—pages filled with philosophical, scientific, and spiritual revelations that would later form the foundation of his manuscript The Universal One. Though he sent his findings to 500 leading minds of the time, nearly all dismissed him as mad—except one. Nikola Tesla, the visionary inventor, was so struck by Russell’s insights that he urged him to seal the work away for a thousand years, insisting that humanity was not yet ready for its truths.

Walter Russell’s revelations reimagined the very structure of reality. He argued that matter was not solid but crystallized light slowed by thought—that everything around us, from rocks to human bodies, was composed of light patterns, shaped by consciousness. He believed the universe was fundamentally mental, not material, and that all things moved in rhythmic cycles—expansion and contraction, like breath. He dismissed opposites like good and evil as illusions, asserting instead that everything sought harmony and balance. To Russell, death wasn’t an end but the release of compressed light returning to its source. Even time, he claimed, wasn’t linear, but a spiral where past, present, and future coexisted.

These ideas were radically ahead of their time, blending metaphysics, wave dynamics, and a deep sense of universal unity. He believed electricity was a living spiral of energy, not merely electrons in motion, and that the vacuum of space was in fact a vibrant sea of untapped potential. Health, in his view, was the natural rhythm of the body, and disease was simply a disruption of that flow. Though ignored or ridiculed during his lifetime, Russell’s work now draws new attention in an era where quantum physics and consciousness studies begin to echo the same questions. To many, he is no longer a forgotten eccentric, but a prophet of a paradigm yet to come.

~S~

I'm sorry, I thought you had a point to make.

 

[DonGlock26]

Mostly a useful mathematical tool, as i understand it. They annihilate each other on such a short time scale that they cannot be directly observed.

Its a particle/antipartocle pair that forms from nothing and then annihilates itself.

However, they can have real world effects, like Hawking radiation and emissions from single atoms.

Best i can do.

A mathematical tool? So imaginary?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A mathematical tool? So imaginary?

No, as we can measure the real world effects. Like, change in frequency from the emission of an atom, due to particle pair formation within the atom.

It's an established fact arising from quantum field theory.

 

[DonGlock26]

No, as we can measure the real world effects. Like, change in frequency from the emission of an atom, due to particle pair formation within the atom.

It's an established fact arising from quantum field theory.

Effects of what? A mathematical tool?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Effects of what? A mathematical tool?

I said they mostly function that way (in performing theory), as we do not observe them directly. But they are, indeed, real.

 

[DonGlock26]

I said they mostly function that way (in performing theory), as we do not observe them directly. But they are, indeed, real.

A virtual particle is a theoretical transient particle that exhibits some of the characteristics of an ordinary particle, while having its existence limited by the uncertainty principle, which allows the virtual particles to spontaneously emerge from vacuum at short time and space ranges.

Virtual particle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds like a theory and not necessarily reality.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sounds like a theory and not necessarily reality.

Some theories are facts. Like this one.

 

[sparky]

I'm sorry, I thought you had a point to make.

my point was it's beyond our capacity to grasp Don ~S~

 

[DonGlock26]

my point was it's beyond our capacity to grasp Don ~S~

The big picture may be, but we can see something of what is going on.

 

[sparky]

The big picture may be, but we can see something of what is going on.

yes, but only from the perspective of the physical , which is rather a captive stance Don

~S~

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

yes, but only from the perspective of the physical , which is rather a captive stance Don

~S~

That's all there is. And nobody can do anything but imagine otherwise.

 

[sparky]

That's all there is. And nobody can do anything but imagine otherwise.

That's all we , as physical beings, are privy to FF

~S~

 

[DonGlock26]

Some theories are facts. Like this one.

Thus far, I haven't seen anything that proves that theoretical virtual particles actually exist.

 

[BULLDOG]

You don't think red shift, CBR, and DNA are hard credible evidence?

Elaborate. how does DNA prove a creator? Your link was long on claims, yet lacking in detail.