Zone1 If God Truly Loves Us Then Why Did He Cause The Great Flood?

[surada]

He put it off until there were only 8 actual humans left on earth. He saved humanity. Demon infested half-breeds called Nephilim, were what was on the earth. That includes animals. And they were nasty.
Even at that, it grieved God to have to do it.

Gen.6:9 Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation;

Genesis 6:5-6 “Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

Gen. 9:13 After the flood, God made a covenant with Noah and all his descendants that never again would the human family be threatened with total annihilation by flood. The sign God gave Noah to assure him of this covenant was the rainbow. “Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds I will remember my covenant.”
^
The next time we see a rainbow, think God, not gay.

The next mass casualty event will be by fire, and caused by man. We'll call it WW3.
When someone holds God accountable for killing humans, remind them of our thing called war.
Man killing man en masse. In fact, there has never been a time when there has not been a war on this planet. We need to give God a break. We've killed more of our own than God has...

Except God didn't kill off the Nephilim.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Except God didn't kill off the Nephilim.

Who did then?

God killed the ones that were already on the earth at that time with the flood.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them.

God chained the worst fallen angel offenders, in the last and innermost circle of hell, according to Peter, “the prison for fallen angels,” or Tartarus, but there have been other Nephilim since then.
The Mayans were possible candidates. They were unusually nasty. American Indians would hold up their hands to strangers to show that they did not have pilolydactylism (extra digits), a feature known to Nephilim.

Fallen angels are the sons of God. Their offspring were demons, according to Enoch.

 

[Slade3200]

And regret that He created humans in the first place? That doesn't sound like love to me.

I think there are many things in the Bible that don’t add up to love. There are elements like the flood are geared towards creating fear which in turn translates to control and compliance. There is a ton of good that can come from that book but also some obvious contradictions and power plays IMO

 

[ding]

I think there are many things in the Bible that don’t add up to love. There are elements like the flood are geared towards creating fear which in turn translates to control and compliance. There is a ton of good that can come from that book but also some obvious contradictions and power plays IMO

A lot of people get confused by it if they don't have the proper context. You have to be smart about it. You can't have biases one way or another. They only get in the way of good old common sense.

 

[ding]

And regret that He created humans in the first place? That doesn't sound like love to me.

It's not a letter from God or God's diary.

 

[ding]

Agreed. Nor does creating evil and things like cancer. Nor does killing innocent babies. Nor does sending people you "love" to eternal fire.

All of existence is good. Don't let the complexity of life get in your way of seeing that.

 

[surada]

Who did then?

God killed the ones that were already on the earth at that time with the flood.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them.

God chained the worst fallen angel offenders, in the last and innermost circle of hell, according to Peter, “the prison for fallen angels,” or Tartarus, but there have been other Nephilim since then.
The Mayans were possible candidates. They were unusually nasty. American Indians would hold up their hands to strangers to show that they did not have pilolydactylism (extra digits), a feature known to Nephilim.

Fallen angels are the sons of God. Their offspring were demons, according to Enoch.

Numbers 13:32-33: "So they gave out to the sons of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, 'The land through which we have gone, in spying it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants; and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. 33There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight"

 

[surada]

He put it off until there were only 8 actual humans left on earth. He saved humanity. Demon infested half-breeds called Nephilim, were what was on the earth. That includes animals. And they were nasty.
Even at that, it grieved God to have to do it.

Gen.6:9 Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation;

Genesis 6:5-6 “Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

Gen. 9:13 After the flood, God made a covenant with Noah and all his descendants that never again would the human family be threatened with total annihilation by flood. The sign God gave Noah to assure him of this covenant was the rainbow. “Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds I will remember my covenant.”
^
The next time we see a rainbow, think God, not gay.

The next mass casualty event will be by fire, and caused by man. We'll call it WW3.
When someone holds God accountable for killing humans, remind them of our thing called war.
Man killing man en masse. In fact, there has never been a time when there has not been a war on this planet. We need to give God a break. We've killed more of our own than God has...

The story of Noah's flood was borrowed from Sumer. It's mythology...a teaching narrative about redemption not history.
..
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[rylah]

It's prologue or forward to provide context for what I present in post #24 here.

Short of it is that the "God" of Judeo-Christian-Islam "Genesis" is an allegory and simplification for more complex theology and is presenting distorted record of actions of a superior non-Earth species that was involved in human creation and establishment of our civilizations and religions.

In other words, most of the content and context of religious scripture and dogma is "fiction" and distortions of actual truth to be used as a population control device so we don't attain knowledge and power to supplant our owners and overlords.

Short of it is that your interpretation of the:

"God of Judeo-Christian-Islam Genesis is "fiction" and distortions of actual truth to be used as a population control device so we don't attain knowledge and power to supplant our owners and overlords."

is an allegory and simplification of far more complex global events,
and their influence on concepts of a divine order in history.

It's not that you disagree, aliens is just an allegory
of how you perceive the same archetypes
as G-d intended for you to perceive the
greater "cosmic fate" through figures
that can fit your imagination.

See what I did there?
Allegory is an easy excuse,
to read anything into any communication.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Agreed. Nor does creating evil and things like cancer. Nor does killing innocent babies. Nor does sending people you "love" to eternal fire.

This is why I gave up RCC ages ago, never considered any other organization and finally found Kabbalah

Here’s the Lords Prayer in the original Aramic. This is not taught in Kabbalah— for reasons I still don’t understand

https://abwoon.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/APwlinks2020.pdf

 

[rylah]

And regret that He created humans in the first place? That doesn't sound like love to me.

That's a false premise, did you read the text?

G-d didn't cause the flood, it was the wise choice of our mother Eve,

the mother of all living beings, for her children to earn the merit
of a corrected world through facing the consequences and
correcting their actions as the collective fate of humanity;
rather than being angels getting everything for free.

We were already almost gods, and we chose this,
so maybe we have an agenda to get on track?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The problem is that we don’t receive a proper education until much later in life; history is total nonsense, organized religion much worse!

 

[surada]

That's a false premise, did you read the text?

G-d didn't cause the flood, it was the wise choice of our mother Eve,

the mother of all living beings, for her children to earn the merit
of a corrected world through facing the consequences and
correcting their actions as the collective fate of humanity;
rather than being angels getting everything for free.

The Euphrates River Basin often flooded from mountain snowmelt and spring rains just like it used to nearly dry up in August and September. That's the source of the myth. There was no global flood. It's a tale of redemption ...

 

[luiza]

And regret that He created humans in the first place? That doesn't sound like love to me.

Consider the Anunnaki ( Elohim) as the flood creators and the Cult Christian problems evaporate.

The same story applied across the planet and all cultures report the same narrative .

But if you prefer the phony Goddy Boy story , so be it .

 

[rylah]

The Euphrates River Basin often flooded from mountain snowmelt and spring rains just like it used to nearly dry up in August and September. That's the source of the myth. There was no global flood. It's a tale of redemption ...

"There was no global flood" but for some reason a global flood is carved in human civilization in every continent...no less than the human memory of the ice age.

The attempt to discredit the Bible form historic perspective
is at this point an entire religious dogma in itself.

It has nothing to do with the moral questions,
and it changes nothing about the influence
of these texts on current events or their
relation to various ideologies and
human collective archetypes.

Islamist dawa makes more
Noahides than anything.

 

[surada]

Consider the Anunnaki ( Elohim) as the flood creators and the Cult Christian problems evaporate.

The same story applied across the planet and all cultures report the same narrative .

But if you prefer the phony Goddy Boy story , so be it .

No they don't. Stories spring up around local floods everywhere. During the Bronze Age Hurricane Hugo would have been "Worldwide".

 

[surada]

"There was no global flood" but for some reason a global flood is carved in human civilization in every continent...no less than the human memory of the ice age.

The attempt to discredit the Bible form historic perspective
is at this point an entire religious dogma in itself.

It has nothing to do with the moral questions,
and it changes nothing about the influence
of these texts on current event or their
relation to various ideologies and
human collective archetypes.

The Jews adapted and preserved the Sumerian myth.

 

[rylah]

The Jews adapted and preserved the Sumerian myth.

If that's your main "scientific" assumption.

Did the Indians adopt it as well?

Who "adopted" 2+2=4?

 

[rylah]

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[surada]

If that's your main "scientific" assumption.

Did the Indians adopt it as well?

Who "adopted" 2+2=4?

Stories grow up around local floods all the time. Geology doesn't lie . I never figured you for a literalist.