I will not Bow!

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Another misinterpretation.

The Palestinians were not hostile. They were defending their country.

(COMMENT)

It wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,

R

[MENTION=25033]RoccoR[/MENTION]

Please explain why Palestine should not have been given to its inhabitants for self rule.

Why, contrary to all the other Mandates and Protectorates, did Palestine not deserve Independence and self-rule, but instead deserved to be made victim to massive immigration so as to totally change the ethnic/religious dynamic?

They fucked up when they refused to accept the partition plan

 

[toastman]

pbel, et al,

Let's take this down from the very general, to the specific we are talking about.

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(COMMENT)

Again, it wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty

It was an administration assigned to[/: the world, is owned by its citizens.

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens, hence all the other people making decisions for them

For someone who talks about Palestine so much, you seem to know very little about it.

You don't even know when they became a state

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Another misinterpretation.


(COMMENT)

It wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

Ahh, so Palestine didn't belong to the Palestinians. It belonged to a bunch of criminals out of Europe.

Criminals, LOL. No one said it belong to the Zionists from Europe, you're the one that brought that up

IT didn;t belong to the Palestinians. THEY HAD NO SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE LAND

Then who had sovereignty? A bunch of criminals out of Europe?

 

[Victory67]

They fucked up when they refused to accept the partition plan

The people of the Ottoman Empire in Europe were given freedom and self-determination.

The people of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East were given self-determination.

But for some reason the people of Palestine were not given self-determination.

Please justify this.

 

[toastman]

Ahh, so Palestine didn't belong to the Palestinians. It belonged to a bunch of criminals out of Europe.

Criminals, LOL. No one said it belong to the Zionists from Europe, you're the one that brought that up

IT didn;t belong to the Palestinians. THEY HAD NO SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE LAND

Then who had sovereignty? A bunch of criminals out of Europe?

No PEOPLE had sovereignty over the territory. Why do you keep lying about this? And why do you keep ignoring Roccos links. And where are your links ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

pbel, et al,

Let's take this down from the very general, to the specific we are talking about.


(SPECIFIC OBSERVATION)


(COMMENT)

Again, it wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty

It was an administration assigned to[/: the world, is owned by its citizens.

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens, hence all the other people making decisions for them

For someone who talks about Palestine so much, you seem to know very little about it.

You don't even know when they became a state

Link?

 

[toastman]

They fucked up when they refused to accept the partition plan

The people of the Ottoman Empire in Europe were given freedom and self-determination.

The people of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East were given self-determination.

But for some reason the people of Palestine were not given self-determination.

Please justify this.

They turned down self determination when they refused to accept the partition plan

 

[toastman]

It was an administration assigned to[/: the world, is owned by its citizens.

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens, hence all the other people making decisions for them

For someone who talks about Palestine so much, you seem to know very little about it.

You don't even know when they became a state

Link?

Link for what ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

They fucked up when they refused to accept the partition plan

The people of the Ottoman Empire in Europe were given freedom and self-determination.

The people of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East were given self-determination.

But for some reason the people of Palestine were not given self-determination.

Please justify this.

They turned down self determination when they refused to accept the partition plan

Another big fat Israeli lie.

The partition plan was irrelevant to self determination.

 

[toastman]

The people of the Ottoman Empire in Europe were given freedom and self-determination.

The people of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East were given self-determination.

But for some reason the people of Palestine were not given self-determination.

Please justify this.

They turned down self determination when they refused to accept the partition plan

Another big fat Israeli lie.

The partition plan was irrelevant to self determination.

It's not an Israeli lie. It's a WORLDWIDE FACT

Would the plan have given them self determination? Did they reject the plan ?

Your welcome

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens, hence all the other people making decisions for them

For someone who talks about Palestine so much, you seem to know very little about it.

You don't even know when they became a state

Link?

Link for what ?

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens,

 

[P F Tinmore]

They turned down self determination when they refused to accept the partition plan

Another big fat Israeli lie.

The partition plan was irrelevant to self determination.

It's not an Israeli lie. It's a WORLDWIDE FACT

Would the plan have given them self determination? Did they reject the plan ?

Your welcome

No. Self determination is not something you sign up for in some stupid scheme.

 

[toastman]

Link?

Link for what ?

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens,

But you're the one who made the claim without providing the link.

Did the Palestinians capture Palestine from the Ottomans? No

Were the Palestinians making any decisions about Mandatory Palestine? No

If they owned Palestine, why did they let the British control all their decisions ?

 

[Hossfly]

Another big fat Israeli lie.

The partition plan was irrelevant to self determination.

It's not an Israeli lie. It's a WORLDWIDE FACT

Would the plan have given them self determination? Did they reject the plan ?

Your welcome

No. Self determination is not something you sign up for in some stupid scheme.

Well, Tinmore, did the Palestinians accept or reject the plan? That was the question you completely ignored.

 

[toastman]

Another big fat Israeli lie.

The partition plan was irrelevant to self determination.

It's not an Israeli lie. It's a WORLDWIDE FACT

Would the plan have given them self determination? Did they reject the plan ?

Your welcome

No. Self determination is not something you sign up for in some stupid scheme.

They rejected the partition plan. Had they accepted it, they would have had self determination

 

[Victory67]

But you're the one who made the claim without providing the link.

Did the Palestinians capture Palestine from the Ottomans? No

Were the Palestinians making any decisions about Mandatory Palestine? No

If they owned Palestine, why did they let the British control all their decisions ?

The Arabs of the Ottoman Empire helped the British defeat the Ottomans so that they would all have freedom, not so that the Arabs of Palestine would be the victims of a colonialist project.

 

[toastman]

But you're the one who made the claim without providing the link.

Did the Palestinians capture Palestine from the Ottomans? No

Were the Palestinians making any decisions about Mandatory Palestine? No

If they owned Palestine, why did they let the British control all their decisions ?

The Arabs of the Ottoman Empire helped the British defeat the Ottomans so that they would all have freedom, not so that the Arabs of Palestine would be the victims of a colonialist project.

What Arabs?? The ottomans were Turks, not Arabs

 

[pbel]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Another misinterpretation.


(COMMENT)

It wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

Ahh, so Palestine didn't belong to the Palestinians. It belonged to a bunch of criminals out of Europe.

Criminals, LOL. No one said it belong to the Zionists from Europe, you're the one that brought that up

IT didn;t belong to the Palestinians. THEY HAD NO SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE LAND

They resided on that land for a millennium and OCCUPIED by various invaders like they are today.

 

[pbel]

But you're the one who made the claim without providing the link.

Did the Palestinians capture Palestine from the Ottomans? No

Were the Palestinians making any decisions about Mandatory Palestine? No

If they owned Palestine, why did they let the British control all their decisions ?

The Arabs of the Ottoman Empire helped the British defeat the Ottomans so that they would all have freedom, not so that the Arabs of Palestine would be the victims of a colonialist project.

What Arabs?? The ottomans were Turks, not Arabs

Who said the Ottomans were Arabs?

 

[pbel]

Link for what ?

Palestine was NOT owned by its citizens,

But you're the one who made the claim without providing the link.

Did the Palestinians capture Palestine from the Ottomans? No

Were the Palestinians making any decisions about Mandatory Palestine? No

If they owned Palestine, why did they let the British control all their decisions ?

they were occupied.