I will not Bow!

[ForeverYoung436]

Very good.
I bet with all the Internet resources at your fingertips you couldn't give me five reasonable interpretations of the first verse of the Torah.

I'll go one further...there are NO set verses in the Torah.
The verses are artificial constructs to enable the Spaniards to debate during the Disputations.
The King James Version, which has led to so many bad versions of what you call Fairy Tales, is a HORRIBLE translation.

Of course, I know you don't care, but I felt like typing.

Only a fool like you would say a book that has no reliable English translation is legally binding.

Are there good translations of the Illiad and the Osyssey?
Of course not; you have to learn the original language.

Show me in English where Leah named Judah because she was thanking God.
I dare you.

I know Hebrew, and I would say the King James translation is a fair one, but not excellent. For instance, in Genesis it says in Hebrew: "Abraham was old and coming in days." In English, that would not make sense. So they changed it to: "Abraham was old and full of days." Different languages have different ways of saying things.

 

[Indeependent]

Only a fool like you would say a book that has no reliable English translation is legally binding.

Are there good translations of the Illiad and the Osyssey?
Of course not; you have to learn the original language.

Show me in English where Leah named Judah because she was thanking God.
I dare you.

I know Hebrew, and I would say the King James translation is a fair one, but not excellent. For instance, in Genesis it says in Hebrew: "Abraham was old and coming in days." In English, that would not make sense. So they changed it to: "Abraham was old and full of days." Different languages have different ways of saying things.

Nope...That's not even close.
For fun, what does that mean?
He died at the end of the day?
He used every one of his days wisely?
He wasn't full of crap?

Actually, Avraham WAS old and "coming" in days as the work for "coming", Borh, means to engage in sexual intercourse and Avraham had children until he was VERY old.

Show me in English where Chavah (Eve) named Cain because she "Acquired" .
Show me in English why Cain "builds a city called "Node"?
Show me in English where Leah names Reuben because God has "Seen" .

I can go on and on where the Torah explains itself so that the explanation ONLY makes sense in Hebrew.
But of course, you are fully aware of that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Name one Jew, just one, who can traces his ancestors back to Palestine.

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

Archaeological evidence shows that Jews/Israelites/ Hebrews have been there. I've been to many museum exhibitions that show this. That's why Jose keeps saying that today's Jews are somehow not related to the Israelites of the past. But Jose is wrong about that.

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

 

[Indeependent]

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

Archaeological evidence shows that Jews/Israelites/ Hebrews have been there. I've been to many museum exhibitions that show this. That's why Jose keeps saying that today's Jews are somehow not related to the Israelites of the past. But Jose is wrong about that.

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

You are CORRECT!
The Torah has many commands regarding the respect Jews must have for righteous resident non-Jews; probably more respect than Muslims hold for each other.
In fact, God commanded Yehoshua to first request of the residents to behave according to the Noachide Laws and only kick them out of they refused.
Most of the 31 Kings refused because they liked engaging in sexual intercourse with sheep and sacrificing their children to fire gods.

But then I'm expecting you to have read a Bible.

 

[toastman]

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

Archaeological evidence shows that Jews/Israelites/ Hebrews have been there. I've been to many museum exhibitions that show this. That's why Jose keeps saying that today's Jews are somehow not related to the Israelites of the past. But Jose is wrong about that.

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

That doesnt matter, because there has been a JEWISH STATE CALLED ISRAEL FOR THE LAST 66 YEARS

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just trying to promote Xenophobia and Nativism as a form of justification for Jihadist and Fedayeen activities.

My statement is correct.

(COMMENT)

The original intent is plain and clear. To protect the culture and the society of the Jewish People from the very unhealthy and selfish position of demanding a favored status for certain established inhabitants (Arab Palestinians). You are attempting to portray the Arab Palestinian as the beleaguered victim of the territory, when in fact they are an infestation of Anti-immigration activist using force to defy the UN Partition Plan.

Your statement is far from the truth. If you consider the "Provisional Government" a foreign activity, then that is the same as claiming the Arab Higher Committee a foreign activity of the external Arab League.

But more importantly, the tie to the WZO was a Mandate (Article 4). And that simply was because the intent, well beyond the comprehension or sympathy of the Hostile Arab Palestinians, was to "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

na·tiv·ism [ney-ti-viz-uhm]
noun
1. the policy of protecting the interests of native inhabitants against those of immigrants.
2. the policy or practice of preserving or reviving an indigenous culture.
3. Philosophy . the doctrine that innate ideas exist.​

It is an unjustified Arab protectionist policy, used by the inferior to shield it from the advancements associated with a heterogeneous society becoming more homogeneous.

Most Respectfully,
R

And that simply was because the intent, well beyond the comprehension or sympathy of the Hostile Arab Palestinians, was to "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

The Palestinians were not hostile. They were defending their country.

 

[Indeependent]

Archaeological evidence shows that Jews/Israelites/ Hebrews have been there. I've been to many museum exhibitions that show this. That's why Jose keeps saying that today's Jews are somehow not related to the Israelites of the past. But Jose is wrong about that.

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

That doesnt matter, because there has been a JEWISH STATE CALLED ISRAEL FOR THE LAST 66 YEARS

Details, details.
Never let a fact get in the way of a thread.

 

[Indeependent]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just trying to promote Xenophobia and Nativism as a form of justification for Jihadist and Fedayeen activities.

My statement is correct.

(COMMENT)

The original intent is plain and clear. To protect the culture and the society of the Jewish People from the very unhealthy and selfish position of demanding a favored status for certain established inhabitants (Arab Palestinians). You are attempting to portray the Arab Palestinian as the beleaguered victim of the territory, when in fact they are an infestation of Anti-immigration activist using force to defy the UN Partition Plan.

Your statement is far from the truth. If you consider the "Provisional Government" a foreign activity, then that is the same as claiming the Arab Higher Committee a foreign activity of the external Arab League.

But more importantly, the tie to the WZO was a Mandate (Article 4). And that simply was because the intent, well beyond the comprehension or sympathy of the Hostile Arab Palestinians, was to "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

na·tiv·ism [ney-ti-viz-uhm]
noun
1. the policy of protecting the interests of native inhabitants against those of immigrants.
2. the policy or practice of preserving or reviving an indigenous culture.
3. Philosophy . the doctrine that innate ideas exist.​

It is an unjustified Arab protectionist policy, used by the inferior to shield it from the advancements associated with a heterogeneous society becoming more homogeneous.

Most Respectfully,
R

And that simply was because the intent, well beyond the comprehension or sympathy of the Hostile Arab Palestinians, was to "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

The Palestinians were not hostile. They were defending their country.

From a bunch of nasty, bada$$ Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Archaeological evidence shows that Jews/Israelites/ Hebrews have been there. I've been to many museum exhibitions that show this. That's why Jose keeps saying that today's Jews are somehow not related to the Israelites of the past. But Jose is wrong about that.

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

That doesnt matter, because there has been a JEWISH STATE CALLED ISRAEL FOR THE LAST 66 YEARS

Indeed, and that is the conflict in a nutshell. There is no other reason for it.

 

[toastman]

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

That doesnt matter, because there has been a JEWISH STATE CALLED ISRAEL FOR THE LAST 66 YEARS

Indeed, and that is the conflict in a nutshell. There is no other reason for it.

For people who are biased and know very little about the conflict like yourself, that might be a reason.

Then of course, there's reality

 

[Indeependent]

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

That doesnt matter, because there has been a JEWISH STATE CALLED ISRAEL FOR THE LAST 66 YEARS

Indeed, and that is the conflict in a nutshell. There is no other reason for it.

A Humanistic State, even one such as Lebanon or Iran used to be, is anathema to the Muslims spirit.

 

[Hossfly]

OK, but Jews were not the first people there nor have they ever been the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

That doesnt matter, because there has been a JEWISH STATE CALLED ISRAEL FOR THE LAST 66 YEARS

Indeed, and that is the conflict in a nutshell. There is no other reason for it.

The only people complaining about it are the Paliwogs and their un-supportive supporters who give them only lip service.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you freaking kidding?
That's one of the arguments bolstered by the Kohen Gene..
And now you're going to deny there ever was a First or Second Temple.
Or that it was a fairy tale, including the Roman Conquest.
Or that it's all ancient history.

You are so pathetic.

The so-called Kohain gene only shows common ancestry. It doesn't say where the common ancestor lived. It had no GPS tracking system, you idiot.

Try again as it is only present in those people who were members of the tribe of Teachers amongst the Jews. So it is an indication of just were they lived, as strangely no Palestinians have this gene not even those that have bred with Jews.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Another misinterpretation.

The Palestinians were not hostile. They were defending their country.

(COMMENT)

It wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[pbel]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Another misinterpretation.

The Palestinians were not hostile. They were defending their country.

(COMMENT)

It wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

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Same area as above illustrating territorial and political boundaries.
A country is a region legally identified as a distinct entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated peoples with distinct political characteristics. Regardless of the physical geography, in the modern internationally accepted legal definition as defined by the League of Nations in 1937 and reaffirmed by the United Nations in 1945, a resident of a country is subject to the independent exercise of legal jurisdiction.Sometimes the word country is used to refer both to sovereign states and to other political entities,[1][2][3] while other times it refers only to states.[4] For example, the CIA World Factbook uses the word in its "Country name" field to refer to "a wide variety of dependencies, areas of special sovereignty, uninhabited islands, and other entities in addition to the traditional countries or independent states".[5][Note 1]



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[Phoenall]

Which means you are correct (in your mind) OR victory67 is correct (in his mind) .
You can't BOTH be correct on this issue.

We are not in disagreement on this issue, and this is just more idiocy from you.

Of course the Arab percentage of Palestine reduced from 1922 to 1948, as hundreds of thousands of Jews moved to Palestine.

Damn, read a ******* history book once in your life, please.

I have and it is you that is wrong. From the start of the mandate the arab muslims kept pace with the increase at double the population of the Jews and Christians combined. That could not be achieved by breeding alone so it must have been by mass migration. Don't forget for every Jew or Christian means that they must give an increase of 2, so if the Jews and Christians increased by 50,000 then the muslims must increase by 100,000. So for your hundreds of thousands of Jewish migrants means an increase of double that for the muslims.

So might I suggest that you try reading a proper history book and not those published by pallywood productions.

 

[RoccoR]

pbel, et al,

Let's take this down from the very general, to the specific we are talking about.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Another misinterpretation.

The Palestinians were not hostile. They were defending their country.

(COMMENT)

It wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

Country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Country

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For other uses, see Country (disambiguation). Not to be confused with County.
Topographical map of Europe.
Same area as above illustrating territorial and political boundaries.
A country is a region legally identified as a distinct entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated peoples with distinct political characteristics. Regardless of the physical geography, in the modern internationally accepted legal definition as defined by the League of Nations in 1937 and reaffirmed by the United Nations in 1945, a resident of a country is subject to the independent exercise of legal jurisdiction.Sometimes the word country is used to refer both to sovereign states and to other political entities,[1][2][3] while other times it refers only to states.[4] For example, the CIA World Factbook uses the word in its "Country name" field to refer to "a wide variety of dependencies, areas of special sovereignty, uninhabited islands, and other entities in addition to the traditional countries or independent states".[5][Note 1]
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(SPECIFIC OBSERVATION)

The Government of the United Kingdom, in a memorandum on the "Legal Meaning of the Termination of the Mandate", has advised the United Nations Palestine Commission that so fas the Mandatory Power is concerned the United Nations Commission will be the Government of Palestine after 15 May 1948.

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.

"His Majesty's Government will recognize the United Nations Commission as the authority with which to make an agreement regarding the transfer of the assets of the Government of Palestine."​

SOURCE: PAL/138 27 February 1948

(COMMENT)

Again, it wasn't their country.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Indeependent]

Which means you are correct (in your mind) OR victory67 is correct (in his mind) .
You can't BOTH be correct on this issue.

We are not in disagreement on this issue, and this is just more idiocy from you.

Of course the Arab percentage of Palestine reduced from 1922 to 1948, as hundreds of thousands of Jews moved to Palestine.

Damn, read a ******* history book once in your life, please.

I have and it is you that is wrong. From the start of the mandate the arab muslims kept pace with the increase at double the population of the Jews and Christians combined. That could not be achieved by breeding alone so it must have been by mass migration. Don't forget for every Jew or Christian means that they must give an increase of 2, so if the Jews and Christians increased by 50,000 then the muslims must increase by 100,000. So for your hundreds of thousands of Jewish migrants means an increase of double that for the muslims.

So might I suggest that you try reading a proper history book and not those published by pallywood productions.

Modus operandi...Why be comprehensive when one can spout out one sound-bite at a time?

 

[Phoenall]

So I guess the whole history of mankind starting from Yehoshua through the Roman Conquest was made up in 1948 to get the WBJs out of "Palestine".


And you're calling ME an idiot?

The Bible is a fantasy book not a history book.

The Kohain gene shows common ancestry from an unnamed individual. There is no info regarding his location. You're an idiot to believe otherwise.

And the Koran being based on the same stories must also be a fantasy book, and the Cohen gene shows a common ancestry on the matriarchal line that is only present in the Jews. No arab has that genetic fingerprint, not even one descended from the rape of a Jewish girl. The big give away is that the Jews who came from iran during the expulsion all had this same gene, as did the Jews that stayed in palestine

 

[Phoenall]

The Bible is a fantasy book not a history book.

The Kohain gene shows common ancestry from an unnamed individual. There is no info regarding his location. You're an idiot to believe otherwise.

The Bible is...

1. part history book

2. part chronicle

3. part cultural narration

4. part behavioral guide

5. part morality play

6. part metaphorical lesson-teaching fantasy novel

7. part Hebrew

8. part other people living hearby to the Hebrews in Antiquity

9. part credible

10. part incredible

11. part the philosophical foundation for the spirituality of more than 4,000,000,000 souls around the planet

you forgot

12. part fantasy book.

Name a religious book that isn't