I was there: My perspective on bowe bergdahl

[daveman]

Zimmerman, after having a fight with his wife, stalked and murdered an unarmed teenager. I fail to see any comparison to Bowe Bergdahl, who sounds like a flower child that should never have been in a combat zone. His reported history speaks to that.

So...Berghdal is innocent until proven guilty...but Zimmerman was guilty from the moment Martin died.

There is no credible way you can deny your rank hypocrisy. Don't even bother.

 

[Ravi]

When the Pentagon concluded he walked away, all recovery efforts ceased.

Link?

 

[Nutz]

He will probably just run away to canada - where he will be harbored as a hero by our ally to the North. Traitors, terrorists, and canadian are the best of friends.

 

[daveman]

If I remember correctly, the Bush administration released a few hundred detainees during its years and got nothing back for it.

But now the scandal is that we released 5 in exchange for 1 POW who got disillusioned with the war at like the age of 22?

Considering how fucked up that war was, how many times we kept redeploying people (record amounts compared to any other war in US history) and that many people joined the military because they responded to the message that our people would go over there to "win hearts and minds", I can cut a young guy some slack for becoming a totally bi-polar mess at the thought that he was put in a bad situation without the proper training or discipline, was not ever put in situations with clear and winnable objectives.

If you totally mess up your conduct of the war from the top, you're going to see it reflected at the bottom with erratic wartime behavior. Pretty simple.

If you believe this is a Christian nation, than the right thing to do is to lend a kid some forgiveness, get him some help, and then see what his mental state is before you make ignorant accusations based on right-wing blogs.

Guy, they aren't about "Christian Forgiveness".

They are about being against anything Obama is for.

That should have been obvious when these "Christians" put aside 150 years of Dogma and supported a Mormon Heretic because "OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!"

^^^ Deserves repeating

Horseshit doesn't deserve repeating.

It's always funny when non-believers dictate what believers' views should be. You consistently get it wrong.

 

[Ravi]

He will probably just run away to canada - where he will be harbored as a hero by our ally to the North. Traitors, terrorists, and canadian are the best of friends.

Uh, no.

 

[Nutz]

He will probably just run away to canada - where he will be harbored as a hero by our ally to the North. Traitors, terrorists, and canadian are the best of friends.

Uh, no.

Uh, no...what?

 

[Ravi]

He will probably just run away to canada - where he will be harbored as a hero by our ally to the North. Traitors, terrorists, and canadian are the best of friends.

Uh, no.

Uh, no...what?

Your last sentence isn't true.

 

[daveman]

What do you think is obvious?

That Bergdahl deserted.

What was your rush to brand Zimmerman a murderer?

There was never any doubt as to who shot Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman killed him whether it was justified or not.

But you called the case a murder, less than a month after it happened, before the trial.

What's really sad is the left wing crazies around here, lead by Marcatl, who are using the tragic murder of that young kid in Florida to bash Fox News. And out and out lying about the coverage too, Sheppard Smith has been talking about it for the better part of 45 minutes, and they've covering it all day. You guys have absolutely no creditability at all.

I am glad that you recognize this as a murder, not some self-defense bullshit.

Go ahead. Tell us that you didn't say what you said. Proglodytes backpedaling is more fun to watch than bears on unicycles.

 

[daveman]

^^^ Thinks "dangerous" and "terrorist" are interchangeable.

Really, Synthia? Are you such a mindless Obama ass-suck that you're claiming these 5 AREN'T terrorists?

Dear Reader fucked up. Hugely. But he's confident that lemmings such as yourself will support him no matter what he does.

That's correct. They are no more terrorists than a militia out of Michigan would be, who is defending America from a foreign invasion.

Why do you confuse them with al Qaeda? FOXNEWS clouding your thought process?

Wow. Just...wow. You can try to deny reality all you want, but all it accomplishes is make you look even more like a mindless Obama ass-suck.

 

[daveman]

I'm sorry, did I not supply a link you asked for?

Or are you the USMB advocate for retards these days?

I don't know if you're playing dumb, or you really ARE dumb.

History says the latter.

Just admit you're a flaming hypocrite. It's not like anyone would be surprised.

Just for shits and giggles, maybe you should check out some of bedouin's posts before collecting your Rescued Maiden Sex from him.

Then scoot back here and let everyone know if you agree he's a retard or not.

Run along, now!

And that excuses your flaming hypocrisy...how, exactly?

Hint: It doesn't. Dumbass.

 

[daveman]

Wouldn't it be more revealing to look up your posts?

So you're using someone else's behaviour in threads from a year ago to justify your behaviour today? Even though you mocked that behaviour back then?

Please continue.

Oh, so it's okay for YOU to do it, but not anyone else.

Got it.

Do what, dave?

Speak Engrish, please.

I communicate clearly. You seem to have trouble comprehending posts that expose your failings.

Your willful inability to acknowledge your failings in no way makes them not exist.

 

[daveman]

Tell me something Dave...If Bergdahl had not walked, away but was captured somehow, and this release between the Taliban and him HAPPENED, would you have agreed to it?

Is this about the 5 Taliban men?(who were going to be released regardless when we leave Afghanistan at year end and GITMO has to by law, be closed)

What exactly is your complaint?

Is it that you do not think the administration should have released the 5 Taliban men because you believe Bergdhal was a deserter and he should just rot in hell there?

Would you have accepted the exchange for him vs the 5 Taliban men if you thought he was captured for reasons other than walking away?


so to recap, if you believed Bergdahl was not a deserter, would you have been for the exchange with these Taliban men?

I would have accepted it had Obama followed instructions to inform the congressional subcommittee and had their approval to make the exchange. He did not. Why?

Because he knew they would not approve. Why?

Because they would need to answer to constituants.


One wonders what more surprises Obama may offer the American public before his term ends in 2017.

Your certainty in your speculation illustrates that you are not 'fair and balanced', and are willing to believe the worst of every situation because it's Barack Obama. You're the very definition of a partisan hack.

Most Americans believe the President when he says that any leak of the plans would cause the people holding Bergdahl to kill him.

Yes, Obama is very concerned about leaks...except when the White House releases the name of the CIA Chief of Station in a country in which we are conducting combat operations. No one was punished for that.

Most Americans don't have their head up Obama's ass alongside yours.

 

[Nutz]

Uh, no.

Uh, no...what?

Your last sentence isn't true.

Sure it is. canada has a rich history of harboring American criminals and deserters...hell, they wanted to erect a memorial to the Vietnam era cowards who fled to canada. As for terrorists, canada is the new hotbed for terrorists. I posted quite a few articles about how canadians finance terrorism, how terrorists are being created in canada and how these terrorists are sneaking across the border into the US.


Rethink canada, they are not our friends, they teach Anti-American sentiments in their school systems for Christ sakes.

Think Ted Cruz if you want to know how nasty and despicable canada is towards the American way and Americans.

 

[daveman]

The five men released are considered highly dangerous. Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa and Abdul Haq Wasiq are classified as a “high risk” to the United States. Two others, Mohammad Fazl and Mullah Norullah Mori, were present during the 2001 prison riot at Mazar-e Sharif when CIA paramilitary officer Johnny Micheal Spann was killed. Fazl is thought to be the Taliban “army chief of staff”) and a longtime al-Qaeda ally. Wasiq reportedly helped train al-Qaeda. Mullah Norullah Noori, a senior military commander also reportedly have ties with al-Qaeda. Khairullah Khairkhwa, a Taliban governor was also allegedly an al-Qaeda trainer. One is believed to be responsible for the deaths of scores of Shiites in acts of religious terror.

IMO?

Trade tomahawks instead of terrorists.

Where are the photos of what these guys look like today, 13 years after their capture?

Wow. You really are desperate, aren't you?

You should be. Obama fucked up.

 

[daveman]

Look at the insane shit eaters changing the subject to T Martin, hating a black man in the White House, etc.....such swinging and missing with liberal scum talking points here.

Uh...that would be daveman.

Would you like me to illustrate your flaming hypocrisy yet again?

 

[daveman]

Where are the photos of what these guys look like today, 13 years after their capture?

Maybe if they were all showed to look like this now, the shrieking women of the Right-Wing would stop wetting themselves?

Yes, because old people can't kill anyone.

Are you really that ******* stupid? Don't answer. Rhetorical question.

 

[daveman]

The five men released are considered highly dangerous. Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa and Abdul Haq Wasiq are classified as a “high risk” to the United States. Two others, Mohammad Fazl and Mullah Norullah Mori, were present during the 2001 prison riot at Mazar-e Sharif when CIA paramilitary officer Johnny Micheal Spann was killed. Fazl is thought to be the Taliban “army chief of staff”) and a longtime al-Qaeda ally. Wasiq reportedly helped train al-Qaeda. Mullah Norullah Noori, a senior military commander also reportedly have ties with al-Qaeda. Khairullah Khairkhwa, a Taliban governor was also allegedly an al-Qaeda trainer. One is believed to be responsible for the deaths of scores of Shiites in acts of religious terror.

IMO?

Trade tomahawks instead of terrorists.

I understand half the pitching staffs in MLB right now are sporting Muslim beards. What to do....what to do....

You could post stupid shit on the internet in a pathetic attempt to distract attention away from Obama's abysmal failures.

 

[daveman]

When the Pentagon concluded he walked away, all recovery efforts ceased.

Link?

Certainly.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-concluded-2010-bergdahl-walked-away-185047684--politics.html

A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl walked away from his unit, and after an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter.​

 

[Ravi]

When the Pentagon concluded he walked away, all recovery efforts ceased.

Link?

Certainly.

U.S. concluded in 2010 that Bergdahl walked away

A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl walked away from his unit, and after an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter.​

Got to love anonymous sources.

 

[Antares]

^^^ Thinks "dangerous" and "terrorist" are interchangeable.

Really, Synthia? Are you such a mindless Obama ass-suck that you're claiming these 5 AREN'T terrorists?

Dear Reader fucked up. Hugely. But he's confident that lemmings such as yourself will support him no matter what he does.

That's correct. They are no more terrorists than a militia out of Michigan would be, who is defending America from a foreign invasion.

Why do you confuse them with al Qaeda? FOXNEWS clouding your thought process?

Too funny, ignorant, but funny.