I Told You So

[iceberg]

lol sure thing. Another example of fantasy delusions being peddled as facts. Just go be a doctor or a programmer ... then we can listen to them whine when there are 500 programmers and 300 doctors for every actual job or market for. And, no customer base, because the rest o the country is working for 2 cents an hour and no longer need either, can't afford them.

Oooooo a whiner.

You want to make good money, get marketable skills. Learn a trade as those are in high demand. Plumbing, auto repair, fix the robots, web design, technical writing, teaching, there's a lot to choose from if you look.

But no. You just stereotype n whine.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I went into Walmart for the first time in a year, and couldn't believe my eyes when I got in line for check out. There were no clerks, and everything was self-checkout. I didn't like the set up, and have decided that there isn't anything that I need in a hurry, so I'll just order my stuff on line from now on. I don't need to go anywhere that doesn't have customer service. Others in line didn't like the set up either, but oh well it is what it is.

I won't use those lines and I won't go to Walmart outside of medication if that's the way they do things.

Several years ago I went to see my doctor for a checkup. I went to the check in desk and there were no lights on and nobody there. A woman approached me telling me about their new kiosks and escorted me to one. I told her nobody warned me about this idiotic policy and I didn't bring my reading glasses so I couldn't see the screen. She checked me in. While waiting to seem my doctor, several patients were outraged at the kiosks, one saying after his visit, he's switching to another facility.

My next checkup a year later, the kiosks were still there, but so were the receptionists. I seen one person use the kiosk. The rest of us checked in with another human being.

 

[pknopp]

A wage by whom?

Not my concern. It will happen.

 

[Auld Phart]

Pay people a fair wage or a minimum wage you cheap scumbag.

You miss my point.

if their job is automated, they earn $0

 

[Grumblenuts]

Until their strike mechanism is enabled via remote WIFI..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not my concern. It will happen.

Wages have to come from somewhere. Who's going to pay these people, you???

 

[pknopp]

Wages have to come from somewhere. Who's going to pay these people, you???

It's going to happen.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Wages have to come from somewhere. Who's going to pay these people, you???

They will always keep their prey nice and fat.

 

[DudleySmith]

I went into Walmart for the first time in a year, and couldn't believe my eyes when I got in line for check out. There were no clerks, and everything was self-checkout. I didn't like the set up, and have decided that there isn't anything that I need in a hurry, so I'll just order my stuff on line from now on. I don't need to go anywhere that doesn't have customer service. Others in line didn't like the set up either, but oh well it is what it is.

I also noticed that there is a growing population of young homeless people living at or near to shut down buildings, and they are carrying signs saying that they are homeless, and in need of food.

I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, but I guess the change is coming or going on whether morally wrong or whether it's happening so fast that between the drugs, messaging, and the doom and gloom outlook for the youth in America, it is causing a huge fall out.

It's no wonder why we see the destruction of our youth these days, and the riot's and violence they are participating in.

Gosh, if those kids would only work for free, or go $600 grand in debt training for a $10 an hour 'skilled job' that doesn't exist, because businesses constantly lie about 'skilled labor shortages'.

 

[candycorn]

Yep. I started work in a steel mill in 1972 when they employed 3,200. I retired 35 years later when the workforce was down to 1,100. They didn`t drop any products or move to China. Mills that failed to modernize are closed.

One of my first jobs was picking orders in a warehouse. . A lot of that is automated now. I doubt that any humans are involved in the pick process any more. You click on what you want and some robot somewhere scoops it off a shelf, runs it down a conveyor belt to someone to pack it. Incredible.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

One of my first jobs was picking orders in a warehouse. . A lot of that is automated now. I doubt that any humans are involved in the pick process any more. You click on what you want and some robot somewhere scoops it off a shelf, runs it down a conveyor belt to someone to pack it. Incredible.

We had Amazon open up several warehouses here. I made a few deliveries to them. The docks are in the warehouse, and it's incredible to watch the packing process in there, like something out of a movie.

 

[dannyboys]

Make all the jobs robotic. I'm kind of jealous that I won't live through the time where people don't have to work but get a wage anyway.

So where's the cash going to come from to "get a wage" for healthy sane people? I KNOW! AOC and Bernie Sanders can print out your "wage" on their home printers! All it will cost you is your dignity and self respect and your pride and your honor. Those are things that are going pretty cheap these days.
The human race are animals like any other animal species. We all much eat to live. In order to eat we must produce something of value to someone else in some shape or form. Can't do that? You perish.
Bob Dylan said it best: "You have to serve somebody".

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Gosh, if those kids would only work for free, or go $600 grand in debt training for a $10 an hour 'skilled job' that doesn't exist, because businesses constantly lie about 'skilled labor shortages'.

They can't lie about he wage because the less labor available, the higher the wage offers go.

The world doesn't owe you a living. You are not going to get a job turning nuts onto bolts for 50K a year plus great benefits. Those days are long gone and never coming back. If you want to make better money, you either go to college or trade school and learn something that makes your labor more valuable, get off the dope so you can pass a drug screen, and live happily ever after.

 

[pknopp]

So where's the cash going to come from to "get a wage" for healthy sane people? I KNOW! AOC and Bernie Sanders can print out your "wage" on their home printers! All it will cost you is your dignity and self respect and your pride and your honor. Those are things that are going pretty cheap these days.
The human race are animals like any other animal species. We all much eat to live. In order to eat we must produce something of value to someone else in some shape or form. Can't do that? You perish.
Bob Dylan said it best: "You have to serve somebody".

We print daily. We will simply change where it goes. The taxes on robotic jobs will make it so that there really is little saved. No sick days though.

 

[DudleySmith]

They can't lie about he wage because the less labor available, the higher the wage offers go.

The world doesn't owe you a living. You are not going to get a job turning nuts onto bolts for 50K a year plus great benefits. Those days are long gone and never coming back. If you want to make better money, you either go to college or trade school and learn something that makes your labor more valuable, get off the dope so you can pass a drug screen, and live happily ever after.

I have lots of anecdotal stories, too, but none of them fall under the narrative that business owners and shareholders are entitled to the cheapest labor the government can get for them, nor is it the government's job to train a vast over- supply of skilled labor for them either. The sense of entitlement business owners and speculators have these days is ridiculous.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So where's the cash going to come from to "get a wage" for healthy sane people? I KNOW! AOC and Bernie Sanders can print out your "wage" on their home printers! All it will cost you is your dignity and self respect and your pride and your honor. Those are things that are going pretty cheap these days.
The human race are animals like any other animal species. We all much eat to live. In order to eat we must produce something of value to someone else in some shape or form. Can't do that? You perish.

Perhaps Pknopp never heard of the cart theory we Republicans like to use:

The townspeople build a huge cart. They are able to pull the empty cart running down the road because it's so easy. As some people get tired of pulling the cart, they jump inside the cart instead. More and more people jump into the cart as time goes on. When more people are in the cart than those that are pulling the cart, the cart stops.

I don't know exactly what he's thinking, but I believe it's along those same lines. For the people that are working, give their money to government so they can pay the people not working, kind of something like the Democrats are doing today. How's that working out for us?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I have lots of anecdotal stories, too, but none of them fall under the narrative that business owners and shareholders are entitled to the cheapest labor the government can get for them, nor is it the government's job train a vast over- supply of skilled labor for them either.

The discussion often comes up of what labor is worth. You are worth only as much as your employer can find another to do the same job and same quality of work as you do. That's all you're worth or any of us are worth.

 

[August West]

We print daily. We will simply change where it goes. The taxes on robotic jobs will make it so that there really is little saved. No sick days though.

Robots don`t have sick days nor do they buy the product they`re making.

 

[pknopp]

Robots don`t have sick days nor do they buy the product they`re making.

Which is why people will get paid regardless. Otherwise there is no point.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

hich is why people will get paid regardless. Otherwise there is no point.

So where is the money supposed to come from? Why would I go to work to support a bunch of other people who don't have to all of their lives? It defeats the point of working.