I think this says something about the trump government.

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is ‘not formally ... independent’​

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr told a Senate committee on Wednesday that his agency is “not formally ... independent.”

Shortly after Carr made that statement, the FCC apparently removed the word “independent” in a description of the agency’s work on its website.

Carr’s appearance before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee was his first since making controversial remarks in September that led ABC to briefly suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show.

Carr, a Trump appointee, made headlines in September over his response to comments Kimmel made following the killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Carr responded with a threat aimed at Disney, which owns ABC.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr told right-wing commentator Benny Johnson at the time. “These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel, or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”


Is this on par with unilaterally deciding it's just fine and dandy to use military assets to blow up boats and people with allegedly illicit cargo headed to an unproven destination? No.

But it does reflect an attitude that the regime can ignore congressional intent by declaring agencies designed to be independent from control by the executive branch are no longer so by wishing it were so. Just because the prez wants control over all aspects of government. Control intentionally not given to the office of POTUS for the very reasons we are seeing play out in real time.

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Yes, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent U.S. government agency, established by Congress to regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable, acting with some autonomy but overseen by Congress and subject to presidential appointments and legal review.


Carr's testimony being exemplary in highlighting the problem of trump agency heads erroneously thinking their primary loyalty is to the guy who appointed them, not the people.
Where in the Constitution does it say that agencies/bureaucracies, which are part of the Executive Branch of the Federal government are independent of oversight or control by the Executive. ???

One moment you looney tunes Leftist are whining that Trump isn't following the Constitution, next moment you are saying the hired hands part of Federal government doesn't have to follow the Constitution.

If you all didn't have double standards you'd have no standards at all. :rolleyes:
 
Where in the Constitution does it say that agencies/bureaucracies, which are part of the Executive Branch of the Federal government are independent of oversight or control by the Executive. ???
The part where it says congress makes the laws.

Thus, constitutionally independent agencies. As they are formally called.
 

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is ‘not formally ... independent’​

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr told a Senate committee on Wednesday that his agency is “not formally ... independent.”

Shortly after Carr made that statement, the FCC apparently removed the word “independent” in a description of the agency’s work on its website.

Carr’s appearance before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee was his first since making controversial remarks in September that led ABC to briefly suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show.

Carr, a Trump appointee, made headlines in September over his response to comments Kimmel made following the killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Carr responded with a threat aimed at Disney, which owns ABC.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr told right-wing commentator Benny Johnson at the time. “These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel, or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”


Is this on par with unilaterally deciding it's just fine and dandy to use military assets to blow up boats and people with allegedly illicit cargo headed to an unproven destination? No.

But it does reflect an attitude that the regime can ignore congressional intent by declaring agencies designed to be independent from control by the executive branch are no longer so by wishing it were so. Just because the prez wants control over all aspects of government. Control intentionally not given to the office of POTUS for the very reasons we are seeing play out in real time.

AI Overview

Yes, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent U.S. government agency, established by Congress to regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable, acting with some autonomy but overseen by Congress and subject to presidential appointments and legal review.


Carr's testimony being exemplary in highlighting the problem of trump agency heads erroneously thinking their primary loyalty is to the guy who appointed them, not the people.
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A very famous republican said it very well:

"that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth"

Abe is spinning in his grave right now.
Abraham Lincoln didn`t die in vain. He died in Washington D.C.
 
Why would we want unelected agency heads to unaccountable?

The are part of the executive branch and overseen by Congress.They cannot, and should not, be "independent."
So, censorship is OK and just...as long as it's your side doing it? :)
Got it.
 
So, censorship is OK and just...as long as it's your side doing it? :)
Got it.

People in the US are so clouded by politics they cannot think beyond the current administration.

Imagine the chaos if the president can decide what can and cannot be seen on TV. Every 4 years shows could get canceled merely because the president does not like them.

This is no way to run a free country.
 
A very famous republican said it very well:

"that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth"

Abe is spinning in his grave right now.
Abe was spinning when he said those ridiculous hypothetical words, while mass murdering Americans who no longer wished to be part of his beloved Union.
 
The president is so powerful, that impeaching them is very difficult. You can impeach anyone else in these independent agencies too, you forgot that part.

The purpose of the independent agencies is to exercise judgement outside of the president's "agenda". Congress didn't want the president telling the FCC who they should give broadcast licenses to. Congress didn't want the president telling the FEC who to prosecute for campaign finance violations. Congress didn't want the president telling the FTC to ignore the monopolies run by their buddies.

You wouldn't want that either if you weren't such a hack.

That's the point of a Presidential system.

Sorry, but power of the executive flows from the President, the only elected member of the executive. That's the way the system was designed to work. "Independent" Agencies except for the Post Office are unconstitutional.
 
That's the point of a Presidential system.

Sorry, but power of the executive flows from the President, the only elected member of the executive. That's the way the system was designed to work. "Independent" Agencies except for the Post Office are unconstitutional.
The founders definitely did not intent to create a position of this level of authority.

But you do because you are an authoritarian. You want a system where the president can use the office to help his friends, enrich himself, prosecute his enemies, and entrench his political party.
 
The founders definitely did not intent to create a position of this level of authority.

But you do because you are an authoritarian. You want a system where the president can use the office to help his friends, enrich himself, prosecute his enemies, and entrench his political party.

Yes, they did.

There is no reference to "independent agencies" in the Constitution except for the Post Office, and maybe the Federal Reserve.

Everything else is bullshit.
 
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Yes, they did.

There is no reference to "independent agencies" in the Constitution except for the Post Office, and maybe the Federal Reserve.

Everything else is bullshit.
The federal reserve is not in the constitution.

Just admit you’re an authoritarian and want the president to have an enormous amount of power.
 
Abe was spinning when he said those ridiculous hypothetical words, while mass murdering Americans who no longer wished to be part of his beloved Union.
wow, some of you folks have gone right off your rockers.
 
“On your website, it just simply says, man, the FCC is independent. This isn’t a trick question,” Lujan added.

“The FCC is not formally an independent agency,” Carr responded.

Asked about the deletion of the word “independent” after Carr’s comments, an FCC spokesperson said via email on Wednesday: “With the change in Administration earlier this year, the FCC’s website and materials required updating. That work continues to ensure that they reflect the positions of the agency’s new leadership.”


Let's think about that for a moment. The FCC charter did not change. Congress did not abdicate its oversight authority to the executive branch. Nothing about the FCC has formally been changed.

What the email is saying is because Carr is a trump sycophant (or he wouldn't have been appointed), and therefore believes the FCC shouldn't be independent from the White House, HIS "position" makes it so.

Deleting the word "independent" from the website doesn't actually change a goddamn thing. But it does indicate Carr, and the staff working for him, need to have their asses kicked out of government.
 
“On your website, it just simply says, man, the FCC is independent. This isn’t a trick question,” Lujan added.

“The FCC is not formally an independent agency,” Carr responded.

Asked about the deletion of the word “independent” after Carr’s comments, an FCC spokesperson said via email on Wednesday: “With the change in Administration earlier this year, the FCC’s website and materials required updating. That work continues to ensure that they reflect the positions of the agency’s new leadership.”


Let's think about that for a moment. The FCC charter did not change. Congress did not abdicate its oversight authority to the executive branch. Nothing about the FCC has formally been changed.

What the email is saying is because Carr is a trump sycophant (or he wouldn't have been appointed), and therefore believes the FCC shouldn't be independent from the White House, HIS "position" makes it so.

Deleting the word "independent" from the website doesn't actually change a goddamn thing. But it does indicate Carr, and the staff working for him, need to have their asses kicked out of government.
You are correct that the "charter" of the FCC did not change.

Nowhere in the law that created the federal communications commission does the word "independent" appear.

The idea that an elected bureaucrats should be allowed to go rogue with no oversight from congress or the president, is a recipe for disaster in a democracy.

You don't believe it yourself. If Trump appointees at the federal communications commission did something that you don't like, you would be the first to scream that they have to be stopped.
 
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