I think this says something about the trump government.

[Marener]

You just have to impeach the President first, you forget that part.

How is the country better off when the elected President has to deal with unelected bureaucrats and leftovers from old administrations hostile to his agenda, and thus the agenda of the people who elected him?

The president is so powerful, that impeaching them is very difficult. You can impeach anyone else in these independent agencies too, you forgot that part.

The purpose of the independent agencies is to exercise judgement outside of the president's "agenda". Congress didn't want the president telling the FCC who they should give broadcast licenses to. Congress didn't want the president telling the FEC who to prosecute for campaign finance violations. Congress didn't want the president telling the FTC to ignore the monopolies run by their buddies.

You wouldn't want that either if you weren't such a hack.

 

[Crepitus]

A very famous republican said it very well:

"that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth"

Abe is spinning in his grave right now.

The supposed republicans laughing at the Abe Lincoln quote is just mind boggling.

 

[Crepitus]

For a percentage of people anyway. Much of what we see on TV today was forced on us with some demanding it and then a percentage more who got used to it. The FCC was much more stringent in its past.

This is about their independence, not their approval of what offends you.

 

[Crepitus]

Said no Democrat during the corrupt Biden regime.

Why would we have?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Bring me some facts or STFU.

Here you go, 27 mins of them in their own words.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Why would we have?

Thank you for proving our point.

 

[Crepitus]

Thank you for proving our point.

YOu haven't made one.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

You want to concentrate an astounding amount of authority in a single individual and it's the left that is power hungry?

Independent agencies diffuse authority amongst a large number of people chosen by numerous presidents and approved by numerous Congresses. It makes the system much more difficult to corrupt because no one has total authority.

These are exactly the kind of institutions that lead competent governments and vibrant economies.

Weakening institutions leads to really bad places, not only in civil life but in economic outcomes. Why do you think authoritarian nations do so poorly?

That’s a risk I’m willing to take.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is ‘not formally ... independent’​

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr told a Senate committee on Wednesday that his agency is “not formally ... independent.”

Shortly after Carr made that statement, the FCC apparently removed the word “independent” in a description of the agency’s work on its website.

Carr’s appearance before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee was his first since making controversial remarks in September that led ABC to briefly suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show.

Carr, a Trump appointee, made headlines in September over his response to comments Kimmel made following the killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Carr responded with a threat aimed at Disney, which owns ABC.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr told right-wing commentator Benny Johnson at the time. “These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel, or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is 'not formally ... independent'

FCC chairman Brendan Carr testified to a congressional committee for the first time since ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel's show following a Carr threat.

www.cnbc.com

Is this on par with unilaterally deciding it's just fine and dandy to use military assets to blow up boats and people with allegedly illicit cargo headed to an unproven destination? No.

But it does reflect an attitude that the regime can ignore congressional intent by declaring agencies designed to be independent from control by the executive branch are no longer so by wishing it were so. Just because the prez wants control over all aspects of government. Control intentionally not given to the office of POTUS for the very reasons we are seeing play out in real time.

AI Overview

Yes, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent U.S. government agency, established by Congress to regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable, acting with some autonomy but overseen by Congress and subject to presidential appointments and legal review.

Carr's testimony being exemplary in highlighting the problem of trump agency heads erroneously thinking their primary loyalty is to the guy who appointed them, not the people.

Thats the MO of the Project 2025 white nationalists.

They cannot achieve their goals, when independent agencies exist, and their ideas have to go through the normal process.

So they had to find one of the dumbest peole on the planet to be the President, then they had to form a strategy to make him an authoritarian.

They basically spelled it out.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

That's horseshit.

Eric Neff, a Republican attorney with a web of ties to election-conspiracy theorists, is the new acting chief of the voting section at the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), according to the department’s website.

Neff replaces Maureen Riordan, who spent almost two decades in the department’s voting section from 2000 to 2017. In 2021, Riordan served as litigation counsel at the anti-voting legal group the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) before she returned to DOJ when President Donald Trump returned to the White House.

A Dec. 2 legal filing identified Riordan as a “senior counsel” in the voting section. A DOJ spokesperson did not immediately respond to an inquiry about her current role.

DOJ Replaces Voting Section Chief With Lawyer Tied to Election Conspiracists

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

Couple that with Dotard's attempts to get R states to gerrymander in R's favor and you have a party hellbent on rigging elections. Lead by a man who tried to steal one after losing in 2020.

You mean fair elections? How awful.. For you!

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Thats the MO of the Project 2025 white nationalists.

They cannot achieve their goals, when independent agencies exist, and their ideas have to go through the normal process.

So they had to find one of the dumbest peole on the planet to be the President, then they had to form a strategy to make him an authoritarian.

They basically spelled it out.

All you doing is accuse others of what your guilty of.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

They're just as accountable as Trump. More so, given that they can actually be prosecuted for criminal acts but Trump can't.

How is the country better off by allowing the president to use the entirety of the federal government to serve their political purposes?

Because our goals are a benefit and help the country while your’s actively destroy it.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Congress can impeach and remove anyone in these independent commissions too.

So they’re equally accountable.

You lost a talking point.

Which institutions did the left destroy? USAID? CFPB? I’d like to know.

“The can be removed, it’s impossible to do so, but it’s totally not rigged!”-Guy who rigged said system.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

We can't remove him from office and he's not going to run again, so he's now unaccountable to the people.

Authoritarianism | Definition, History, Examples, & Facts | Britannica

Authoritarianism, in politics and government, the blind submission to authority and the repression of individual freedom of thought and action.

www.britannica.com

authoritarianism, in politics and government, the blind submission to authority and the repression of individual freedom of thought and action. Authoritarian regimes are systems of government that have no established mechanism for the transfer of executive power and do not afford their citizens civil liberties or political rights. Power is concentrated in the hands of a single leader or a small elite, whose decisions are taken without regard for the will of the people. The term authoritarianism is often used to denote any form of government that is not democratic, but studies have demonstrated that there is a great deal of variation in authoritarian rule.

Nazis, Soviets, Chinese Communists all concentrated the authority of that government into the hands of a small number of people, just like you are proposing.

Do you think the Soviets had independent commissions?

You really don't understand that the economic success of nations depends on the strength of their institutions. Look into the research that won the 2024 Nobel Prize. We don't want the president being able to exert individual control over decisions that are supposed to be made outside of politics.

Sort of like how when the voters of California approved a prop 187 that would deny welfare benefits to illegal aliens Democrats totally ignored the Will the voters and used activist judges to overturn their election results?

Sort of like how when the people of California oppose the legalization of gay marriage you ignored them and you used activist judges on the court to overrule them?

Sort of had like a majority of people opposed to Obama care, but they still rammed it through?

Funny how the left is always the one ignoring the Will of the people, overturning elections, ignoring laws and flood out breaking the rules and then when they don’t have any power scream, bloody murder about authoritarianism.

You’ve heard of the story of the boy that cried shit wolf, right?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Trump isn't accountable to the voters. Hell, he's not even accountable in a criminal court anymore.

How is the "bloated bureaucracy" a seed of authoritarianism? The definition of authoritarianism is concentrating power into a very small number of people and what you want is to concentrate an absurd amount of power into Trump.

If anything, the "bloated bureaucracy" is anti-authoritarian as it diffuses government power into a larger number of people.

A bloated bureaucracy becomes a vessel of authoritarianism because it has bought the loyalties of people who would otherwise not be employed in such a lucrative position and trade that position in exchange for blind loyalty, this concept is called bio Leninism.

 

[Leo123]

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is ‘not formally ... independent’​

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr told a Senate committee on Wednesday that his agency is “not formally ... independent.”

Shortly after Carr made that statement, the FCC apparently removed the word “independent” in a description of the agency’s work on its website.

Carr’s appearance before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee was his first since making controversial remarks in September that led ABC to briefly suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show.

Carr, a Trump appointee, made headlines in September over his response to comments Kimmel made following the killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Carr responded with a threat aimed at Disney, which owns ABC.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr told right-wing commentator Benny Johnson at the time. “These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel, or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is 'not formally ... independent'

FCC chairman Brendan Carr testified to a congressional committee for the first time since ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel's show following a Carr threat.

www.cnbc.com

Is this on par with unilaterally deciding it's just fine and dandy to use military assets to blow up boats and people with allegedly illicit cargo headed to an unproven destination? No.

But it does reflect an attitude that the regime can ignore congressional intent by declaring agencies designed to be independent from control by the executive branch are no longer so by wishing it were so. Just because the prez wants control over all aspects of government. Control intentionally not given to the office of POTUS for the very reasons we are seeing play out in real time.

AI Overview

Yes, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent U.S. government agency, established by Congress to regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable, acting with some autonomy but overseen by Congress and subject to presidential appointments and legal review.

Carr's testimony being exemplary in highlighting the problem of trump agency heads erroneously thinking their primary loyalty is to the guy who appointed them, not the people.

Another day another TDS screed. Stop crying for ABC and Jimmy Kimmel. It's disgusting.

 

[Marener]

Sort of like how when the voters of California approved a prop 187 that would deny welfare benefits to illegal aliens Democrats totally ignored the Will the voters and used activist judges to overturn their election results?

Sort of like how when the people of California oppose the legalization of gay marriage you ignored them and you used activist judges on the court to overrule them?

Sort of had like a majority of people opposed to Obama care, but they still rammed it through?

Funny how the left is always the one ignoring the Will of the people, overturning elections, ignoring laws and flood out breaking the rules and then when they don’t have any power scream, bloody murder about authoritarianism.

You’ve heard of the story of the boy that cried shit wolf, right?

Since when do you give a shit about the “will of the people”?

Voters can’t pass unconstitutional ballot measures. Neither can your elected officials. Thats not overturning elections. It’s the way a constitutional republic has to operate.

 

[Marener]

A bloated bureaucracy becomes a vessel of authoritarianism because it has bought the loyalties of people who would otherwise not be employed in such a lucrative position and trade that position in exchange for blind loyalty, this concept is called bio Leninism.

Oh god. You follow Curtis Yarvin.

 

[berg80]

Here you go, 27 mins of them in their own words.

I said facts, not bullshit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

All you doing is accuse others of what your guilty of.

English, please. Board rules.