I think this says something about the trump government.

[Norm Paperman]

I disagree with your premise. Silly partisan nonsense, unprovable and emotionally unhinged.

Yet you just told me that if I did not like what the government deems worthy for TV my recourse is to turn off the TV.

That does not sound like freedom, it sounds like North Korea

 

[Marener]

It's implied in the Congressional ability to print banknotes, which is why it's quasi-independence, much like the post office, is more of a reality than the rest of the so called independent agencies.

The President is supposed to have a lot of power, it's why he was included in the Constitution after the failure of the Articles of Confederation.

You are arguing out of your weight class here, Moroner.

The Federal Reserve Act establishes the federal reserve, not the constitution. It’s up to the president to execute the law, much makes it an executive agency.

I’m arguing with an authoritarian. You know they Trump is just dying to abuse his authority. Right?

 

[Orangecat]

Yet you just told me that if I did not like what the government deems worthy for TV my recourse is to turn off the TV.
That does not sound like freedom, it sounds like North Korea

North Korea forces people to watch television regulated by the government? Got a link that proves your claim?

 

[Norm Paperman]

North Korea forces people to watch television regulated by the government? Got a link that proves your claim?

That is not what I said.

 

[martybegan]

The Federal Reserve Act establishes the federal reserve, not the constitution. It’s up to the president to execute the law, much makes it an executive agency.

I’m arguing with an authoritarian. You know they Trump is just dying to abuse his authority. Right?

The Constitution gives congress the authority to issue bank notes, thus the origin of the Federal Reserve.

Which makes it far different than the "independent" agencies made up by congress without explicit Constitutional mandates.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The US has not had a candidate worth all that power in 40 to 50 years

Or maybe never. At least not since the federal government became such a bloated behemoth that it is unrealistic for one person to be in charge of it all.

Maybe the constitution should be changed. Maybe heads of agency should be elected also and be independent from the president and the congress. But, until we change the constitution, we can't just pretend the constitution says what we want it to say.

 

[Orangecat]

That is not what I said.

You said this:

Because I do not want what I watch or listen to to be based on the whims of whomever is the president at the time.

And then went on to compare the US to North Korea.
The only person who controls what you watch or listen to is you. Stop being such an emo-ninny. Trump is not an authoritarian dictator and the US isn’t North Korea. The childish hyperbole on constant display from the left is why you lost in 2024.

 

[Marener]

The Constitution gives congress the authority to issue bank notes, thus the origin of the Federal Reserve.

Which makes it far different than the "independent" agencies made up by congress without explicit Constitutional mandates.

And they gave the president the authority to put people on the board and take people off.

If they wanted it to be a legislative agency, they wouldn’t have done that.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Congress, who created it, designed it to be independent from the kind of political pressure that trump exerts on every governmental agency.

Where does it say that in the law that congress passed?

Changing the language on the website being a tacit acknowledgement an agency that once enjoyed independence no longer has it.

The change of language only acknowledges that just because an agency head may want to be a law unto himself, that does not make it so.

But you already know all that. If by now you don't, you have your head much further up your ass than I thought humanly possible.

You make up laws and blame me for not "knowing" what you make up.

GJ!

 

[Independent thinker]

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is ‘not formally ... independent’​

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr told a Senate committee on Wednesday that his agency is “not formally ... independent.”

Shortly after Carr made that statement, the FCC apparently removed the word “independent” in a description of the agency’s work on its website.

Carr’s appearance before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee was his first since making controversial remarks in September that led ABC to briefly suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show.

Carr, a Trump appointee, made headlines in September over his response to comments Kimmel made following the killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Carr responded with a threat aimed at Disney, which owns ABC.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr told right-wing commentator Benny Johnson at the time. “These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel, or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

FCC chief Brendan Carr tells Senate that his agency is 'not formally ... independent'

FCC chairman Brendan Carr testified to a congressional committee for the first time since ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel's show following a Carr threat.

www.cnbc.com

Is this on par with unilaterally deciding it's just fine and dandy to use military assets to blow up boats and people with allegedly illicit cargo headed to an unproven destination? No.

But it does reflect an attitude that the regime can ignore congressional intent by declaring agencies designed to be independent from control by the executive branch are no longer so by wishing it were so. Just because the prez wants control over all aspects of government. Control intentionally not given to the office of POTUS for the very reasons we are seeing play out in real time.

AI Overview

Yes, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent U.S. government agency, established by Congress to regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable, acting with some autonomy but overseen by Congress and subject to presidential appointments and legal review.

Carr's testimony being exemplary in highlighting the problem of trump agency heads erroneously thinking their primary loyalty is to the guy who appointed them, not the people.

The fact that you post TDS threads day in and day out proves Trump is doing a great job.

 

[martybegan]

And they gave the president the authority to put people on the board and take people off.

If they wanted it to be a legislative agency, they wouldn’t have done that.

There should be no "legacy" from a previous administration in the Executive. That is Unconstitutional and ignores the will of the voters.

Wave bye bye to Humphries executor.

 

[Seymour Flops]

For those who think that executive agencies should be independent of the executive (?), should agency heads be elected?

Or would answering to the voters be "political pressure?"

 

[Norm Paperman]

There should be no "legacy" from a previous administration in the Executive. That is Unconstitutional and ignores the will of the voters.

Wave bye bye to Humphries executor.

You think the entire federal workforce should be fired and replaced every time there is a new president?

 

[Norm Paperman]

For those who think that executive agencies should be independent of the executive (?), should agency heads be elected?

Or would answering to the voters be "political pressure?"

No, they should not be elected. As we see daily those that are elected make choices based upon getting elected again and not the good of the country

 

[Seymour Flops]

No, they should not be elected. As we see daily those that are elected make choices based upon getting elected again and not the good of the country

That will always be a concern in any democracy or repesentative republic.

What system for staffing government do you advocate instead?

 

[Norm Paperman]

That will always be a concern in any democracy or repesentative republic.

What system for staffing government do you advocate instead?

Government as in our leaders or the rank and file government employees doing the work of the government .

 

[Seymour Flops]

Government as in our leaders or the rank and file government employees doing the work of the government .

Heads of Agencies.

 

[Norm Paperman]

Heads of Agencies.

I like the system the US has been using for a long some agencies being independent of the executive branch so their decisions are not made based on politics.

They can be overseen by Congress.

The heads of the Department Agencies should be done as they are now with the president nominating and the Senate approving.

The system had been working fine till now.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I like the system the US has been using for a long some agencies being independent of the executive branch so their decisions are not made based on politics.

They can be overseen by Congress.

The heads of the Department Agencies should be done as they are now with the president nominating and the Senate approving.

The system had been working fine till now.

If they are overseen by congress, then they are obviously not independent of congress.

If they are executive agencies, then they are obviously not independent of the executive.

Congress, the president, or both, may encourage agency heads to act as if they were independent. But if they do something egregious, or do not follow the will of the elected leaders, then those elected leaders will step in and put them back on the right track.

If they do not, the voters will throw out those elected leaders.

 

[Marener]

There should be no "legacy" from a previous administration in the Executive. That is Unconstitutional and ignores the will of the voters.

Wave bye bye to Humphries executor.

So when you complained about weaponization and politicization of government, that was all bullshit. Right?