I tend to think Jesus is coming back pretty soon

[BreezeWood]

Cults are easy to understand, they all must attempt to REMOVE the "BOOKS" from the equation. Even the cult known as human secularism.

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened (The Bible), and another book was opened (the book of life); and the dead were judged out of these things which are written in the books......." -- Rev. 20:12

What is contained in these books? The words of Jesus that are to judge all ON THAT DAY. "He that rejects Me and does not receive MY WORDS, has one that judges him.......the WORD that I have spoken will judge him on the last day." -- John 12:48

You must reject THE BOOKS in order to mold your cult ideology around the actual source of all Christian Doctrine........Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by THE WORD OF GOD.

There can be no Christian Doctrine void of THE BOOKS. What? Was your faith miracled into existence from birth......or did someone TEACH your false doctrine to you? Books are very important to salvation......just make sure you are reading from the correct Books. Books that were confirmed as truth from Heaven via signs and wonders.

Was your cult books confirmed by miracles? Have you ever witnessed the dead raised? The crippled healed? The blind given sight? Where is YOUR miraculous proof? Show me a miracle and I will join your cult......in the mean while, I will faithfully defend the actual content of THE BOOKS that condemn all false doctrines who cannot stand up to the test of the content of THE BOOKS. Truth must have a source of calibration. Those books are the Christians only weapon to use against the deceit used by the god of this world.

Thus......Its not that I don't understand, its the reality that I refuse to be grifted by con artists who assume they can outwit the Holy Spirit of God that inspired all the words found in THE BOOKS.

Self determination can not be found in a book ... the spoken religion as prescribed is a guide for accomplishing the goal to free one's spirit and have a chance for admission to the heavens.

 

[rightnow909]

What did Jesus say about homosexuals?

there is plenty in the Bible about such... ever heard of Sodom and G?

and Jesus quoted the Old Testament. Not once that I know of did Jesus s ay Forget about the Old Testament

"I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it"

 

[norwegen]

there is plenty in the Bible about such... ever heard of Sodom and G?

and Jesus quoted the Old Testament. Not once that I know of did Jesus s ay Forget about the Old Testament

"I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it"

Jesus fulfilled the law. He did what the law couldn't do; he brought salvation to Israel.

 

[rightnow909]

Jesus fulfilled the law. He did what the law couldn't do; he brought salvation to Israel.

most protestants don't even know what "the law" means... There is the moral law and then there is the Mosaic (Moses) law..

only the latter was... not so much totally tossed but... changed

 

[norwegen]

most protestants don't even know what "the law" means... There is the moral law and then there is the Mosaic (Moses) law..

only the latter was... not so much totally tossed but... changed

Christ was the end of the law, or its culmination (Rom 10:4).

The law - the ministry of death - was destined to end (2 Cor 3:7-11). The law was a fabricated ministry (man-made, by and large). Out of that rubble, Jesus salvaged two nuggets that encapsulate the Christian law - to love God and to love others (Mt 7:12; 22:37-40; Gal 5:14).

 

[rightnow909]

Christ was the end of the law, or its culmination (Rom 10:4).

The law - the ministry of death - was destined to end (2 Cor 3:7-11). The law was a fabricated ministry (man-made, by and large). Out of that rubble, Jesus salvaged two nuggets that encapsulate the Christian law - to love God and to love others (Mt 7:12; 22:37-40; Gal 5:14).

that's what your pastor(s) tell you

the truth about Christianity can be found only in the Church Christ founded, the Catholic Church.

No, the RC C is not perfect... FAR from it... but I always refer back to the pre-vat2 Church... This modern configuration is not what the Church was meant to be... except I think the Masss is still valid.. Jesus promised the gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church ... mt 1618

 

[norwegen]

that's what your pastor(s) tell you

No it isn't. Pastors preach and advocate for the temple law all the time.

the truth about Christianity can be found only in the Church Christ founded, the Catholic Church.

The truth about Christianity is found only in the New Testament and in first-century Near-East history.

 

[Clyde 154]

Self determination can not be found in a book ... the spoken religion as prescribed is a guide for accomplishing the goal to free one's spirit and have a chance for admission to the heavens.

As demonstrated..........THE BOOKS must be removed simply because they are the source that calibrates doctrinal truth in relation to the one religion that serves the one true God of Creation.........Christianity.

What? Do you have a problem with diversity and equality based upon simple truth? "For ye are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you that have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek (gentile), there is neither bond nor free (in today's terms....the modern penal system is the slave master), there is neither male nor female; for ye are one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs to the promise." -- Gal. 3:26-29

Christianity has always instructed truth in the fact there is only one RACE of peoples on earth (the human race) and they all owe their being to the God of Creation......of all the nations on earth, all have the same heritage of Blood, from this one blood all of men exist and grope in the hope of finding the one true God of Creation were we all actually find our existence WITHIN the God of CREATION. This simple truth is revealed, God is not a creation of man to be worshiped as man pleases, sometimes with graven images or earthly possessions such as gold or precious stone...etc. We are to seek, find and serve the God of Creation who is not far from anyone on earth as we exist within Him. (Acts 17:24-29) Thus, God's true power and greatness is explained and the "mystery revealed" ..........we do not exist void of nature, its nature and the God that created all that we find ourselves engulfed within that explains God's omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience.

And now........YOU a tiny insignificant atom in physical existence attempt to inform the God of Creation that you do not require His guidance in relation to the moral codes He created that allows us to live in peace among one another? Morality must be transcendent to man, or its of no value to ALL MEN, void of this transcendence each man would make up his own moral code such as found in all savage nations that exist in nature. (in modern terms......as instructed by seculars such as DARWIN). Might makes right, Survival of the fittest, no standard of truth......he who owns the gold makes the rules.

You don't need God "O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself; it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. O Lord, correct me, but with judgement, not in thine anger, lest Thou bring me to nothing." -- Jer. 10:23-24

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

You know, I'm tending more and more these days to be thinking that Odin is coming back pretty soon

Imbeciles such as yourself don't even realize YOU are fulfilling the prophecies of the End Times:

“in the last days, scoffers will come.”

 

[BreezeWood]

As demonstrated..........THE BOOKS must be removed simply because they are the source that calibrates doctrinal truth in relation to the one religion that serves the one true God of Creation.........Christianity.

What? Do you have a problem with diversity and equality based upon simple truth? "For ye are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you that have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek (gentile), there is neither bond nor free (in today's terms....the modern penal system is the slave master), there is neither male nor female; for ye are one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs to the promise." -- Gal. 3:26-29

Christianity has always instructed truth in the fact there is only one RACE of peoples on earth (the human race) and they all owe their being to the God of Creation......of all the nations on earth, all have the same heritage of Blood, from this one blood all of men exist and grope in the hope of finding the one true God of Creation were we all actually find our existence WITHIN the God of CREATION. This simple truth is revealed, God is not a creation of man to be worshiped as man pleases, sometimes with graven images or earthly possessions such as gold or precious stone...etc. We are to seek, find and serve the God of Creation who is not far from anyone on earth as we exist within Him. (Acts 17:24-29) Thus, God's true power and greatness is explained and the "mystery revealed" ..........we do not exist void of nature, its nature and the God that created all that we find ourselves engulfed within that explains God's omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience.

And now........YOU a tiny insignificant atom in physical existence attempt to inform the God of Creation that you do not require His guidance in relation to the moral codes He created that allows us to live in peace among one another? Morality must be transcendent to man, or its of no value to ALL MEN, void of this transcendence each man would make up his own moral code such as found in all savage nations that exist in nature. (in modern terms......as instructed by seculars such as DARWIN). Might makes right, Survival of the fittest, no standard of truth......he who owns the gold makes the rules.

You don't need God "O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself; it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. O Lord, correct me, but with judgement, not in thine anger, lest Thou bring me to nothing." -- Jer. 10:23-24

only one book without accreditation exist.

there is only one book of christianity, written 4 centuries past the events depicted and written by the perpetrators of the 1st century crime, the state religion of the roman empire and contains not one word written by the hand of the religious 1st century itinerant they have misrepresented for their own purposes. not one mention of the liberation theology the events of the 1st century represent.

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

forgeries and falacies the crucifiers use in their book - to nefariously seal their own unenviable fate. clyde 154.

 

[onefour1]

The key to understanding the closeness of the second coming is to understand what the seven seals of the Book of Revelation represent. It is also important to understand that when Christ comes after the opening of the seventh seal that he will bring in the millennial era of peace. Each of the seven seals represent an era of time.

6 Q. What are we to understand by the book which John saw, which was sealed on the back with seven seals? A. We are to understand that it contains the revealed will, mysteries, and the works of God; the hidden things of his economy concerning this earth during the seven thousand years of its continuance, or its temporal existence.

7 Q. What are we to understand by the seven seals with which it was sealed? A. We are to understand that the first seal contains the things of the first thousand years, and the second also of the second thousand years, and so on until the seventh.

The temporal existence of this earth began at the time Adam and Eve partook of the forbidden fruit and brought about the fall of mankind. It is my personal belief that we are currently living at the very end of the sixth seal. Christ will come not too long after the opening of the seventh seal.

 

[Stann]

my best info tells me Jesus is coming back soon. We can see how the most free country in the world (once-called) is essentially gone (@ least for the time being?) because of perverts. I call anyone who 100% ditches Jesus (or common decency, if you prefer)--as elite dims obviously have--perverts. They not only pervert (distort) Jesus's words (if they use them at all) they violate the "laws" of common sense and simple logic. They have become beastly more than human. Some seem possessed by the devil. I feel that God has just about had enough

BTW (to interrupt myself here): What does anyone here "know" or suspect about the 2nd Coming vis a vis the end of the world? Are thy one and the same event?

In any case, God sees the lawlessness and malice against Christians and others of good will... persecutions, the bullying..

Mt 25:31

No one knows when the End will come. Jesus said only the Father knows. But we can and do wonder... I mean, how can a holy and loving God not be very.. well, at least highly irritated?

(I kind of "miss" the Old Testament wrath stuff.)

I hope they don't crucify him again.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Not only will He, but every knee shall bow. You'll see, eventually.

Oh, and your Marxist comment about religion is hilariously wrong. Why do you think religion (namely Christianity) is outlawed in communist countries? And many socialist governments are hostile to religion, namely Christianity? Because they know that genuine believers put GOD first, not government. In other words, they CAN'T control people who answer to a higher power. So religion is competition to corrupt governments who want to control the masses. You know how they DO control the masses? Through lies and indoctrination, via the controlled media, public schools, entertainment, etc. All of which nonbelievers like yourself tend to buy.

So, it's gods law and that's it.
Religion doesn't control the masses?

'genuine believers put GOD first, not government'.
Sounds like the Taliban.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You mean smite those engaged in genocide to the tune of over 50 million since Roe vs. Wade?

Or 10 times that amount, in the name of religion?

 

[surada]

I think there are many reasons to believe the end of this age is not too far off. Just off the top of my head, there's a scripture that says in the last days God will pour out his Spirit and people will have prophetic dreams and visions, etc, about the end of this age.

There are TONS of people having those kind of dreams recently. I had a dream about the second coming of Christ/rapture, I think seven or eight years ago. Maybe it was more, I'll have to check my journal to see when I had that dream. But anyway, it was by far the most phenomenal dream I ever had, and so, SO real. I really can't even put into words how amazing it was, and as I said, tons of people have been having dreams like that... including some that are basically identical to the one I had.

Revelation 1 says that it will all take place "soon" before this generation dies.. A generation is 40 years in the Bibleor less frequently 70 years.

 

[surada]

there is plenty in the Bible about such... ever heard of Sodom and G?

and Jesus quoted the Old Testament. Not once that I know of did Jesus s ay Forget about the Old Testament

"I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it"

Sodom and Gomorrah was a fictional tale about people who were affluent being cruel to travelers and strangers. The cities of the plain left no trace. If they existed it was long before Abraham.. There is evidence for airburst meteor hitting the area, but no evidence for towns.

 

[Meriweather]

So, it's gods law and that's it.
Religion doesn't control the masses?

Religion instills self-discipline, so no, it is not about the masses, but about the individual. It is government that is after the control of the masses. Individual self-discipline and choice instilled by religion scares them because it creates a mass that is beyond control. Self-control is scary to government because those with self-control are not easily manipulated.

 

[surada]

The key to understanding the closeness of the second coming is to understand what the seven seals of the Book of Revelation represent. It is also important to understand that when Christ comes after the opening of the seventh seal that he will bring in the millennial era of peace. Each of the seven seals represent an era of time.

6 Q. What are we to understand by the book which John saw, which was sealed on the back with seven seals? A. We are to understand that it contains the revealed will, mysteries, and the works of God; the hidden things of his economy concerning this earth during the seven thousand years of its continuance, or its temporal existence.

7 Q. What are we to understand by the seven seals with which it was sealed? A. We are to understand that the first seal contains the things of the first thousand years, and the second also of the second thousand years, and so on until the seventh.

The temporal existence of this earth began at the time Adam and Eve partook of the forbidden fruit and brought about the fall of mankind. It is my personal belief that we are currently living at the very end of the sixth seal. Christ will come not too long after the opening of the seventh seal.

You should go back and read the first chapter of the Revelation letter. Its about the first century not the future.

 

[BreezeWood]

Religion instills self-discipline, so no, it is not about the masses, but about the individual. It is government that is after the control of the masses. Individual self-discipline and choice instilled by religion scares them because it creates a mass that is beyond control. Self-control is scary to government because those with self-control are not easily manipulated.

First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.

"religion" is not christianity - anymore than marxism is atheism ... the two are related.

religion scares them because it creates a mass that is beyond control.

the "religion" of christianity - meriweather ...

tell that to the crucifiers, yet to be brought to justice - christianity.

 

[onefour1]

You should go back and read the first chapter of the Revelation letter. Its about the first century not the future.

Nothing in the first chapter of Revelation tells us that the Revelation is limited to the first century. Anyone who has read the Book of Revelation knows that the revelation is a prophecy of the last days and the end of the world. Has that happened yet? NO! We've already gone through your false assumption that the phrase "shortly come to pass" limits the revelation to the first century. Verse 1 of the chapter states:

Revelation 1:1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

In God's time frame, what must shortly come to pass could span over thousands of years. Going forward to Revelation 12 we read:

Revelation 12:12
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Here we read in the same Book of Revelation that John has written that the devil came down from being cast out of heaven having great wrath because he knew that his time on earth would be short. Satan was cast out of heaven before the days of Adam and Eve and was present in the Garden of Eden to tempt Eve. Nearly 6000 years later and he is still upon the earth tempting mankind in that short time he has. That short time spoken of has lasted for nearly 6000 years. So when the Lord shows John things which must shortly come to pass, he is speaking of things in his own outlook or timeframe and not John's which could last several thousand years.

Revelation speaks of the millennial reign of Christ for 1000 years and then the end of the temporal existence of this earth when the heavens and the earth as we know them shall pass away and a new heaven and earth will come where there will be no sea.

Revelation 21:1
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Obviously these revelations do not simply pertain to the 1st century and we still have the seas with us today and Christ is yet to reign on this earth for 1000 years.