"Not So Peaceful": Good Video on Truth About the American Indians

[Concerned American]

Things would have been far worse if the Spanish had colonized North America beyond Florida.

What do you think Coronado was doing in your neck of the woods in his search for the seven cities of Cibola (El Dorado) in the 1540s. I'd say they were colonizing. It continued with Cortez and Junipero Serra. The Spanish colonized Mexico and the southwest of North America.

 

[gipper]

It really doesn't matter exactly how the profit is measured, because war is always fought for profit in one form or another. It could monetary gain, it could be land, it could cultural dominance, and in just about any circumstance the elite tend to gain the most at the cost of whatever tragedy occurs.

Oh it matters. Because they want war to make money. So, they set up events for war to occur. It’s very easy for them. The people are easily deceived into supporting war after war after….

We’ll soon be in another war to make money for a tiny elite.

 

[JoeB131]

War is never good.

Your opinion is based on the establishment narrative. You think because you were taught…that Hitler would have conquered the world if not stopped. This is dumb. Germany had no ability to conquer the world nor did Japan. So, your conclusion the war was good because the alternative was worse, is completely ignorant.

Could Hitler have conquered the world? Unlikely? Would he have committed mass genocide against Jews, Roma, Sinti, Slavs, etc?

Absolutely.

My father was with the troops that liberated a concentration camp called Nordhausen. In your world, Nordhausen would have continued to operate unimpeded.

The US should never have been in the war. Had FDR not provoked Japan, Pearl Harbor never happens. Germany then never declares war on the US. War avoided.

Oh, we "provoked" Japan? Tell me how they did that? Oh, that's right, we were refusing to sell them oil and metals when they were going on a genocidal rampage through China. (The Chinese STILL hate Japan to this very day.)

 

[AZrailwhale]

What do you think Coronado was doing in your neck of the woods in his search for the seven cities of Cibola (El Dorado) in the 1540s. I'd say they were colonizing. It continued with Cortez and Junipero Serra. The Spanish colonized Mexico and the southwest of North America.

And the Spanish enslaved the local Indians. The only reason they didn’t do more damage was the Comanche and Apache waging war against the Spanish and later the Mexicans.

 

[Concerned American]

And the Spanish enslaved the local Indians. The only reason they didn’t do more damage was the Comanche and Apache waging war against the Spanish and later the Mexicans.

You said it would have been worse if the Spanish had colonized more than FL--I simply pointed out that THEY DID COLONIZE THE SOUTHWEST. Of course, they enslaved and dominated the natives--they did that EVERYWHERE they colonized.

 

[Bitterhook]

Oh it matters. Because they want war to make money. So, they set up events for war to occur. It’s very easy for them. The people are easily deceived into supporting war after war after….

We’ll soon be in another war to make money for a tiny elite.

I completely understand what you are saying, and there is little if any to disagree with.

As a student of history, I still find some things fascinating in their own way. Most often those things are associated with when the should of, would of, and could of didn't happen. That's most often centered on someone thinking outside the box, and most certainly for their own gain.

Otherwise, I don't tend to see things in a neat little box and always try to throw Occam's Razor out the window and avoid trying to predict what never happened and never will. To me, history is more fascinating because it did happen.

Although I am not a historian, you can ask one who their favorite historical figure is and why, and they can talk to you for hours. Then you can ask them about all the terrible or at least questionable crap that person did, and the things they don't like about the same figure, and you better buckle up for a ride just as long as the first one.

 

[Mack The Finger]

War is never good.

Your opinion is based on the establishment narrative. You think because you were taught…that Hitler would have conquered the world if not stopped. This is dumb. Germany had no ability to conquer the world nor did Japan. So, your conclusion the war was good because the alternative was worse, is completely ignorant.

The US should never have been in the war. Had FDR not provoked Japan, Pearl Harbor never happens. Germany then never declares war on the US. War avoided.

YAK YAK YAK

 

[Deadstick]

Oh it matters. Because they want war to make money. So, they set up events for war to occur. It’s very easy for them. The people are easily deceived into supporting war after war after….

We’ll soon be in another war to make money for a tiny elite.

Don't know about the Nazis taking over the World but my concern would have been the continent i live in which is Europe, Hitler almost pulled that one off and would have enslaved Europe, so he had to be stopped and was.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”​

― Hermann Goering, Germany Reborn

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I have watched several of his videos, he seems to do a pretty good job.
And shows the silliness of the liberal cry "stolen land".
Indians lived in what anarchy (without order) actually looks like. It is brutal.
Anarchy is really just a system of culture where the biggest stick rules.
Peaceful tribes were at the absolute mercy of the larger warring tribes that outnumbered them 20 to 1. So they would keep moving and go to areas that are harsh and difficult to avoid a massacre.

 

[gipper]

Could Hitler have conquered the world? Unlikely? Would he have committed mass genocide against Jews, Roma, Sinti, Slavs, etc?

Absolutely.

My father was with the troops that liberated a concentration camp called Nordhausen. In your world, Nordhausen would have continued to operate unimpeded.



Oh, we "provoked" Japan? Tell me how they did that? Oh, that's right, we were refusing to sell them oil and metals when they were going on a genocidal rampage through China. (The Chinese STILL hate Japan to this very day.)

You admit you know little about the real causes of WWII. Mr History degree doesn’t know about FDR provoking Japan. Lol. See? You only know the official narrative.

You’ll have to do the research yourself. After all, you’ve got a degree in history.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[JoeB131]

You admit you know little about the real causes of WWII. Mr History degree doesn’t know about FDR provoking Japan. Lol. See? You only know the official narrative.

Um, the official narrative is the right one.

Let's look at what FDR did to provoke the Japanese. He cut them off from the supplies they were using to mass-slaughter the Chinese.

My complaint with FDR was that this should have happened in 1931 (okay, he didn't become president until 1933) when the Japanese invaded Manchuria. Japan was found to be in the wrong in the League of Nations, and they stormed out. That should have been immediately followed up with an international embargo on Japanese goods, a blockade of Japan with various Navies (The US and UK had a 3:1 Advantage over Japan in warships), until Japan withdrew.

The world turned a blind eye. They turned a blind eye again when Japan invaded the rest of China in 1937, engaged in the Rape of Nanjing. (or as Mike G. likes to call it, "The inappropriate touching of Nanjing")

You see, the real problem is that most discussions of World War II gloss over the part about the Second Sino-Japanese War. Nor do we hear as much about Japanese atrocities in China and the rest of Asia as we hear about German atrocities in Europe.

 

[gipper]

Don't know about the Nazis taking over the World but my concern would have been the continent i live in which is Europe, Hitler almost pulled that one off and would have enslaved Europe, so he had to be stopped and was.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”​

― Hermann Goering, Germany Reborn

It was all easily avoided, but they wanted war. Had Britain, France, and US not backed Poland’s refusal to return German lands, Poland relents to Hitler’s modest demands and war averted.

Had Churchill not been blackmailed by the bankers and fully supported by FDR, he might have negotiated with Hitler and ended the war in Western Europe.

Hitler had no intention of conquering all of Europe. He wanted to take out Stalin. As the war progressed, Hitler lost his mind.

There is no dispute the Nazi regime was heinous, but our corrupt governments have worked with heinous dictators for decades. Hell! A head cutter was recently happily received in the Oval Office.

 

[gipper]

Um, the official narrative is the right one.

Let's look at what FDR did to provoke the Japanese. He cut them off from the supplies they were using to mass-slaughter the Chinese.

My complaint with FDR was that this should have happened in 1931 (okay, he didn't become president until 1933) when the Japanese invaded Manchuria. Japan was found to be in the wrong in the League of Nations, and they stormed out. That should have been immediately followed up with an international embargo on Japanese goods, a blockade of Japan with various Navies (The US and UK had a 3:1 Advantage over Japan in warships), until Japan withdrew.

The world turned a blind eye. They turned a blind eye again when Japan invaded the rest of China in 1937, engaged in the Rape of Nanjing. (or as Mike G. likes to call it, "The inappropriate touching of Nanjing")

You see, the real problem is that most discussions of World War II gloss over the part about the Second Sino-Japanese War. Nor do we hear as much about Japanese atrocities in China and the rest of Asia as we hear about German atrocities in Europe.

You’re brainwashed.

Where is the Joe who often posts opposing the establishment and war?

 

[JoeB131]

You’re brainwashed.

Where is the Joe who often posts opposing the establishment and war?

He's not a robot who opposses all war. I judge each war by the merits.

All wars can be avoided, if you are a complete ******* coward. Just get used to living on your knees.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.”​

 

[AZrailwhale]

You admit you know little about the real causes of WWII. Mr History degree doesn’t know about FDR provoking Japan. Lol. See? You only know the official narrative.

You’ll have to do the research yourself. After all, you’ve got a degree in history.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

FDR, or Americans in general did nothing to provoke Japan. Japan had invaded and been attempting to conquer China for four years before the U.S. imposed sanctions in an effort to stop the genocide.

 

[gipper]

FDR, or Americans in general did nothing to provoke Japan. Japan had invaded and been attempting to conquer China for four years before the U.S. imposed sanctions in an effort to stop the genocide.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

 

[AZrailwhale]

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

Laugh all you want. All the USA did was refuse to trade with Japan in an attempt to stop a unprovoked war of aggression. Nations have the right to decide who they want to trade or have relations with.

 

[gipper]

Laugh all you want. All the USA did was refuse to trade with Japan in an attempt to stop an unprovoked war of aggression. Nations have the right to decide who they want to trade or have relations with.

No. Do the research yourself.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No. Do the research yourself.

I have. Japan was going to attack the USA no matter what it did or didn't do. The Philippines endangered the SLOCs Japan needed to survive. Japan wasn't willing to back down from the war in China, so it was going to invade the various colonies to seize resources to support that war.

 

[JoeB131]

No. Do the research yourself.

What did FDR specifically do to provoke Japan.

He cut off trade with them to stop the genocide in China.

That's it.