I no longer support Roe v Wade

[ding]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

i find it fascinating because some women voted badly that you're being vindictive to all of us.

i find that sad and pathetic. i'm incredibly disappointed. are you that ugly a person. i'd always thought you were decent.

why aren't you raging against your fellow men?

Hardly vindictive

Abortion has torn the nation apart for 40 years. Just so women in red states can get an abortion.

70% of women in those states were willing to vote for a man who will stock the courts to take away their reproductive rights.

Why should I fight for their rights when they won't?

Then don't. Problem solved. Please don't tell me that their fate rests on your shoulders. It seems you have an over-inflated sense of self worth.

 

[Rustic]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

i find it fascinating because some women voted badly that you're being vindictive to all of us.

i find that sad and pathetic. i'm incredibly disappointed. are you that ugly a person. i'd always thought you were decent.

why aren't you raging against your fellow men?

Hardly vindictive

Abortion has torn the nation apart for 40 years. Just so women in red states can get an abortion.

70% of women in those states were willing to vote for a man who will stock the courts to take away their reproductive rights.

Why should I fight for their rights when they won't?

You don't know what their rights are, because you're not listening to what their opinions are. It's progressive like you that piss in each others mouth and call it Kool-Aid...

 

[westwall]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

i find it fascinating because some women voted badly that you're being vindictive to all of us.

i find that sad and pathetic. i'm incredibly disappointed. are you that ugly a person. i'd always thought you were decent.

why aren't you raging against your fellow men? a majority of you voted for the orange fascist. a majority of women voted for hillary clinton.

Yes, RW has a propensity for acting like a dumbass. He takes wildly stupid positions, such as this, and then tries and make a joke about it. He is a true deplorable. Especially when the trumpster has a long history of being pro choice. Here is a quote from 1999...


"Historically, Trump's opinion on abortion and women's right to choose has been conflicted and subject to change. During a 1999 appearance on Meet the Press, for example, Trump said, "I’m very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. But … I just believe in choice." By 2011, when he was considering a run for the presidency, however, Trump was saying he was pro-life. "Let me put it this way," he told The New York Times, "I am pro life, and pro-life people will find out that I will be very loyal to them, just as I am loyal to other people. I would be appointing judges that feel the way I feel."


FALSE: Donald Trump Removed 'Pro-Life' from His Policies 12 Hours After Election

 

[emilynghiem]

What do you recommend if a woman is going to die unless if she has an abortion..
What is your solution?

Maybe not have as many horndog republicans....?

That's between her and God, not me. But if I were her, I would risk my life for my child.

God?, who's that?

Maybe you will find out one day, but I'd like to thank you for proving one of my points.

Their religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man. It proceeds in almost all its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of an individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and communality or equality. The religious nature of socialism explains the extraordinary attraction to socialist doctrines and its capacity to inflame individuals and inspire popular movements and condemn respect for any who believe in Christianity. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. Their hostility towards traditional religions is that of an animosity between a rival religion. They can be identified by an external locus of control. They worship science but are the first to argue against it. They are modern American liberals.

God. Prove the existence of God, with a logical argument.

The laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to arise by the laws of nature. Here is the proof you have been looking for. The reality is that the Bible correctly explains that the universe had a beginning and was created in steps. Science tells us that the universe did have a beginning and what we see today is a result of the evolution of matter and was a process that was done in steps. Subatomic particles evolved into hydrogen and helium. Hydrogen and helium formed cosmic structures. Supernovas created the other elements. Chemical evolution created all the compounds. Life mad the leap from inorganic matter to organic matter. Life made the leap from single cells to multi cells and to eventually beings that know and create. The laws of nature came into existence at the time space and time were created. Those laws predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. Check mate.

Dear ding
Again we'd have to AGREE that the laws of nature equate to what is meant by God or God's will and laws.

What stands in the way of agreement is unforgiveness or fear of outside motives trying to control the narrative.

So the proof of agreement on God is actually conducted backwards.
first the conclusion is stated up front, like a contrapositive proof.

then all the objections to the statement are
address and resolved one by one, until
people either tie or reach agreement.

that's how we prove it, to ourselves by
process of eliminating all sources of conflict or counterargument.

You haven't finished the proof, you only started it by
stating the assumption at the beginning.

the real proof is in the process of reconciling afterwards.
until consensus is reached.
And that, dear ding, requires just as much change on your side of the equation
with your perception of people and relations in life
as it does the person you are trying to prove something to!

it requires mutual change in order to grow toward understanding from both sides perspectives.
good luck and good going to take this on!
you will succeed beautifully and will likely get more out of
the process than you might have envisioned.

Thank you for sharing, and more power to ya!!
With Love and Respect,
Yours truly,
Emily

 

[Lakhota]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It is still important to establish and enforce Constitutional issues on both sides.
otherwise, this fight will continue if we never finish resolving the conflicts.

As for abortion itself, the problem will end when MEN are held equally
responsible for the decision to have sex, or MORE responsible in the case of rape
and coercion where women didn't agree to the sex, the pregnancy, and/or the abortion.

Address relationship abuse and sexual abuse, and abortion will be prevented as a result.

None of those are constitutional issues.

 

[initforme]

Fine with me....but then you will agree that the taxpayers should pay for the welfare of the child once born....if you disagree, you are both a filthy lowlife cheapskate and hypocrite asshole...just saying.....cmonbring it

 

[emilynghiem]

If women cared about their reproductive rights, equal pay and respect they would not have voted for Trump

53% of white women voted for Trump

I'm sure women will appreciate you telling them what they should think and do.

Just like they appreciate being called fat, pigs, ugly by Trump? Just like they appreciate a man who dumps his wives for younger and prettier women?

It is obvious they do not care how they are treated

Dear rightwinger
there is a difference between caring and feeling powerless to change things.
people who kill themselves care deeply, but many feel so distraught and overwhelmed
by oppression or pain, they compromise or give up when they feel they have no choice
and can't change the situation or do anything about it.

I can't change if Trump sticks his foot in his mouth and insults
or assaults people beyond anything that can be justified.

I can just make sure ***I*** don't do that, or if I do abuse or harass
someone I apologize for taking it too far.

I think you must be playing a game of devils advocate or reverse psychology
rightwinger

Whatever this is, it may prove effective for inspiring deep thought and discussion.
So thanks for that, rightie!

I like this better than just posts that don't invite response but impose like hit and run.
This approach is at least engaging, good job using this angle!
Quite effective
I hope you arrive at a better conclusion than what you started with.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

It is realism

A majority of American women do not care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect

 

[Unkotare]

Fine with me....but then you will agree that the taxpayers should pay for the welfare of the child once born....if you disagree, you are both a filthy lowlife cheapskate and hypocrite asshole...just saying.....cmonbring it

Illogical

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Murdering infants is the worst kind of crime. Selling the infant body parts is ghoulish.

On the other hand, the children being killed are the children of minorities and liberals. There is no reason for me to want these numbers increased.

 

[ding]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

It is realism

A majority of American women do not care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect

Wow, you are delusional. You are literally having to construct an alternate reality to justify the defeat of your socialist policies. A much much simpler explanation is that Hillary was a horrible candidate and the midwestern states determined that the policies of the last 8 years was not in their best interest.

 

[Divine Wind]

I no longer support Roe v Wade


Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

No worries. Left Wingers are well known to flip-flop more times than a beached fish and bigger liars than a fisherman.

 

[emilynghiem]

It is still important to establish and enforce Constitutional issues on both sides.
otherwise, this fight will continue if we never finish resolving the conflicts.

As for abortion itself, the problem will end when MEN are held equally
responsible for the decision to have sex, or MORE responsible in the case of rape
and coercion where women didn't agree to the sex, the pregnancy, and/or the abortion.

Address relationship abuse and sexual abuse, and abortion will be prevented as a result.

None of those are constitutional issues.

Yes Tipsycatlover it not only involves constitutional issues but BELIEFS about constitutional
authority or limits of govt

Where people have a belief or political creed about right to life, right to health care,
free choice, or states rights,
it has come into conflict making public policy
where SOME people believe the Supreme Court is overreaching and crossing into state matters,
and others believe the opposite that the point is to prevent overreaching of religion into govt.

The two beliefs are clashing over how much authority the Courts have.
So that is a constitutional issue, to the point we may need an amendment clarification
or agreement on political beliefs and creeds to address it!

 

[ding]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

It is realism

A majority of American women do not care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect

But if you and your socialist buddies want to believe that lie, good for you because that means you will not have learned a damn thing from this defeat and you will keep doing the same damn thing and expect a different result.

 

[ding]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

It is realism

A majority of American women do not care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect

If only you could have made these women understand that they don't care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect, then the election would have turned out better, right?

 

[Lakhota]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

It is realism

A majority of American women do not care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect

Well, I must admit that many women don't seem to fight very hard for their rights. Maybe they just feel safer in a male-dominated society and are too afraid to rock the boat. There's a word for that: cowardice.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

No pro choice needs to be maintained. To have to travel to get an abortion should not be needed. Women will be in an uproar if they change this, many women in the south get abortions just as much and there are less an less women getting abortions. Doesn't the supreme court have the constitution to contend with, freedom of religion and from religious zealots. The evangelical movement is a political one and for money reasons. Let the women pay. Bad enough they are defunding planned parenthood which treats VD's.

Trump has probably paid for abortions, and he stated on Stern show how Melanie uses birth control.

It is already happening. Ever since the decision, there have been groups quietly working to hem it in and they have done a pretty good job. None of their work is challenged because the left fears it might result in the overt negation of Roe v. Wade.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Trump has convinced me

Abortion has divided this country for 40 years. Why continue to fight for it?

Prior to 1972 and Roe v Wade, the states decided whether to allow abortion or not. In effect, Blue states allowed it and red states banned it

After Roe v Wade, women in red states were allowed access to abortion.

With the nomination of Trump, it was obvious that Trump would appoint conservative federal judges and Supreme Court justices who would water down and eventually repeal Roe v Wade.

70 percent of women in Red States supported Trump. It is obvious that women in red states have little interest in maintaining abortion rights in their state

Repeal would mean that small minority of women would have to go to a blue state for abortions.......doesn't seem to be that big a deal to women




.

Your reverse psychology is interesting.

It is realism

A majority of American women do not care about reproductive rights, equal pay or respect

Well, I must admit that many women don't seem to fight very hard for their rights. Maybe they just feel safer in a male-dominated society and are too afraid to rock the boat. There's a word for that: cowardice.

So you look at something and say...it seems.

Then you say....well, maybe.....

Then you say that is cowardice.

You debate so well.

 

[rightwinger]

Fine with me....but then you will agree that the taxpayers should pay for the welfare of the child once born....if you disagree, you are both a filthy lowlife cheapskate and hypocrite asshole...just saying.....cmonbring it

Of course

We are the wealthiest nation on earth
We can take care of our children