I didn't vote for long term tariffs.

[Rocko]

Everyone of the financial experts say tariffs are stupid, but Trump knows more than everyone else.

 

[MagicMike]

I voted for Trump to lower prices. I voted for him not to cause trade wars with other countries. Now we're all going to see price increases.

I hope those willing to endure the economic hardship so we can stick it to other countries can justify to me why this was necessary. Why did we need these tariffs when we could have done something to ease the pain here in America?

Wait until the Social Security payment system crashes within the next few months. Then we're going to see some REAL buyer's remorse set in!
Ultimately it will be good for the country as far as tanking Trump's support and fueling an enormous backlash that could end his presidency early.....but there will be a great deal of suffering first.
65 million Americans depend upon those regular monthly payments and many, the majority of those are one missed payment away from homelessness and starvation.
These are people's parents and grandparents.
Nothing says "I fucked up" to MAGAt voters like having to let Mom move in because she just lost her income and can no longer support herself!

 

[Darkwind]

Have fun sitting on the toilet for 20 minutes, lard bucket!

So, you tell Me how ignorant you are without tell Me how ignorant you are. Good job.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Wait until the Social Security payment system crashes within the next few months. Then we're going to see some REAL buyer's remorse set in!

That's absurd.

If you don't mind my asking, how do tariffs impact the Social Security payment system?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Wait until the Social Security payment system crashes within the next few months. Then we're going to see some REAL buyer's remorse set in!
Ultimately it will be good for the country as far as tanking Trump's support and fueling an enormous backlash that could end his presidency early.....but there will be a great deal of suffering first.
65 million Americans depend upon those regular monthly payments and many, the majority of those are one missed payment away from homelessness and starvation.
These are people's parents and grandparents.
Nothing says "I fucked up" to MAGAt voters like having to let Mom move in because she just lost her income and can no longer support herself!

Total BS and you know it. Just stop

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hey, you voted for the dunce, don't expect sympathy from me if all of a sudden he acts like the idiot he is. Maybe you'll be able to correct your mistake in four years

Get back to me when you can tell the difference between men and women, then you can safely lecture anyone else about being an idiot. Deal?

 

[martybegan]

I hate dealing in what ifs. But I'll use one here.

What if these countries decide it's better to wait us out? Then what? While we can sustain the economic impact, they can surmise that the people won't tolerate it for too long before they vote the responsible party out of office in the mid-terms and elect the opposing party president in 2028. They can simply wait for a more favorable environment to manifest itself, where the tariffs could or would be rescinded.

So we bend over and take it then.

The Dem solution to every problem.

 

[buttercup]

Tariffs the way they are being used by Trump are a leverage to return manufacturing to the United States. Tha means good paying jobs to Americans.

 

[Winston]

Different economists have different opinions on everything. Zzzzzzzzz

No, not really. Most respectable economists are predicting a recession due to the fallout from the tariffs. Not that they are always right, but they are almost all in agreement. Sure, there are outliers. Dumbass Laffler, anyone with a degree from George Mason. And please, don't trot out someone with a degree in Classics that is promoting an alternative prediction.

Respectable economists usually use models. Large mathematical equations they have constructed to predict future economic outcomes. And they have been doing it for decades now. Always tweaking that model, refining it. And you might think that it is futile, or not valuable, but it is the very foundation of the perpetual inventory and automatic replenishment systems within many parts of the supply chain.

Look, these tariffs may, or may not, bring in revenue. Border crossings are at an all time low. Fentanyl smuggling is down. Mexico and Canada get slapped with the tariffs anyway? And one day, Trump is like, we are making progress, I will postpone them again, until April. But the very next day, nope, going into effect on March 3. WTF? Who is in charge here? Either someone that has to have some mental issues. It is Reagan, second term too. Or it isn't Trump. I am going with the later.

Tariffs, in the end, serve one purpose. It ain't no different now than it was when this nation was founded. Matter of fact, the ignorance of tariffs was elucidated by Xenephon almost 1700 years ago. It is picking winners and losers. Tariffs, taxes, and the avoidance there of, is at the very heart of the Sons of Liberty. I mean this is going old school, this is how you make the big bucks.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That's absurd.

If you don't mind my asking, how do tariffs impact the Social Security payment system?

You really need to improve your access to news sources, if you rely on your pissy little phone as your portal to the outside world you'll remain quite ignorant.

Tell me, anyone here, what should people do if their social security payments begin to fail, become unreliable or problematic and they can't get help because they are on hold for hours?

Tell me what these Americans should do if that happens to them? people who have paid into their social security all their lives and rely on the money to feed themselves?

Do you - anyone - have any advice?

Because I have advice for you and the other trumpanzees here - you'd better get ready to apologize for electing Trump.

Social Security payments could suffer interruption soon as DOGE causes ‘system collapse,’ former commissioner warns—‘start saving now’

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse and an interruption of benefits. I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days.”

www.yahoo.com

 

[MarcATL]

I sure as hell wasn't voting for her either.

Well enjoy FAFO then.

It's your mess.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So we bend over and take it then.

The Dem solution to every problem.

Nope. From where I sit, we're taking it even harder now. Unless someone comes to the table and gives Trump a reason to rescind the tariff(s).

I fail to see how one willingly takes on greater pain and hardship unless the end goal is worth it, if one is certain the outcome outweighs the pain. What's the end goal here, unless as some have said, it is to get them to the negotiating table? If they don't come, the tariffs go on. If they refuse to play our game, the tariffs go on.

Are we beyond considering the ramifications if that happens?

 

[TemplarKormac]

You really need to improve your access to news sources, if you rely on your pissy little phone as your portal to the outside world you'll remain quite ignorant.

Tell me, anyone here, what should people do if their social security payments begin to fail, become unreliable or problematic and they can't get help because they are on hold for hours?

Tell me what these Americans should do if that happens to them? people who have paid into their social security all their lives and rely on the money to feed themselves?

Do you - anyone - have any advice?

Social Security payments could suffer interruption soon as DOGE causes ‘system collapse,’ former commissioner warns—‘start saving now’

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse and an interruption of benefits. I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days.”

www.yahoo.com

Er, I fail to see how any of that relates to this discussion. Keep that fearmongering to yourself.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Now if Trump wanted to use tariff revenue for that .... maybe I could get on the trump train.

Given current events, tariff revenue will more likely be routed to Washington and then on to the Ukraine or Israel. Or both.

 

[Hellokitty]

I voted for Trump to lower prices. I voted for him not to cause trade wars with other countries. Now we're all going to see price increases.

I hope those willing to endure the economic hardship so we can stick it to other countries can justify to me why this was necessary. Why did we need these tariffs when we could have done something to ease the pain here in America?

I'm all good with the reciprocal and retaliatory tariffs, it's showing us are so called friends aren't really our friends. The US provides security to these countries, along with the US picking up the bulk of Global AID, and instead of being grateful for the sacrifices US taxpayers provide these countries want to screw us over with trade.

TRUMP has brought over a trillion in new investment to the US, so Canada, Mexico and the EU can f-off.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well enjoy FAFO then.

It's your mess.

Oh boy.

Yet you were blissfully unaware that Biden extended Trump's first term tariffs. Thanks Biden!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Er, I fail to see how any of that relates to this discussion. Keep that fearmongering to yourself.

It relates because the questions you are asking are easily researched by sitting at a PC and perusing the web, using different search engines, seeking out opinions and sources other than Fox.

Several times already you've asked silly naive questions that took me ten seconds to shed light on, you're inept, like all the other trumpanzees here.

 

[bendog]

Given current events, tariff revenue will more likely be routed to Washington and then on to the Ukraine or Israel. Or both.

It'll be routed in tax cuts favoring the 1%, which used to be objectionable until the progs ran the dem party and gave money to every freeloader they could find. At least giving money to the rich doesn't cause inflation, because they just put it in non-taxable investments and .... get richer

 

[MarcATL]

Oh boy.

Yet you were blissfully unaware that Biden extended Trump's first term tariffs. Thanks Biden!

I expected a head in the sand response from you.

Carry on.

 

[Winston]

Tariffs are something that you have to be very, very careful about. And for reasons that are much, much deeper than you've expressed here. Or than anything I've read in the thread itself, honestly.

Cutting the size of government iself is what is most important at the moment. And the more practical route.

Can we cut government? No, not really. What we can do is transfer responsibility to the States.

The government has a purpose, a very real purpose in the protections of "free markets". At this point, the government has been so cut, the IRS for example, that it no longer functions as a protector of "free markets". DOGE, Musk, and his young guns, they should not be cutting. Instead, they should be leveraging. But those mathematical and AI skills to work, any government program that gets more than a dollar in return for every dollar in outlay--well throw them some more money? That is how business works. A growing company, a successful business, they don't cut costs, they leverage gains. They find opportunities and they exploit them, they don't close up shop.