Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

Jews hate the goyim, watch your rabis in those videos I posted, denigrating all of humanity, claiming that Jews are going to rule over the Earth.
watch those islamo-nazi christians telling children ALL OVER THE WORLD---
"if you don't accept jesus "christ" as your savior ----you GO TO HELLFIRE FOREVER"------the dogs even shove that BS into the minds of hindu kids
alienating them from their own families. BIG TIME SUPREMACIST BULLSHIT
 
- judaism proves the holocaust by their own hands to be no different than any other throughout history conducted by the same depraved and illiterate individuals. the self proclaimed azog ...
Huh? did you pass junior HS history, breeze-brain?
 
- judaism proves the holocaust by their own hands to be no different than any other throughout history conducted by the same depraved and illiterate individuals. the self proclaimed azog ...
“Their own hands”

LOL

Now the truth comes out. You’re a defect. Go play with your dolls.
 
“Their own hands”

LOL

Now the truth comes out. You’re a defect. Go play with your dolls.
- judaism proves the holocaust by their own hands to be no different than any other throughout history conducted by the same depraved and illiterate individuals. the self proclaimed azog ...

those israeli's responsible for their genocide against civilians are no different than any other illicit militant organization and will someday be convicted for their crimes against humanity.
 
Huh? did you pass junior HS history, breeze-brain?

is that required to see murderers for what they are -

try another religion nothing could be any worse than what you practice including your phony hereditary idolatry you claim as being special because abraham needed attention and knew how and who to get it from who would believe in burning bushes - from the heavens. 91 - the true scholar and historian.
 
Our American tax dollars and arms are sponsoring the Zionist Jewish project in the Holy Land, that brutalizes and slaughters Palestinians. I don't want my government supporting the Jewish genocidal state of Israel. I'm here now criticizing Jews because like always you're pretending to be the innocent victim of non-Jewish hatred and aggression (nothing more than projection), when you're not and your people have way too much influence and power over my government. Like you said, you're only a small nation, so you shouldn't have this much power over the US government or Western civilization. You people are toxic, undermining our sovereignty and public decency:

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You Jews are the ones who started all of this communist crap and cultural Marxism, liberalism. That's your baby. It's responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people. And then, if that all wasn't enough...you're sucking baby penises:



This thread is about you leaving Judaism. You should leave Zionist Jewishness as well. If you want to keep being Jewish, at least reinvent it. Redefine what it means to be Jewish because it's current manifestation is anti-human and highly destructive.

Jesus, what a disgusting tradition. I can't grasp what sane person allows that.
 
is that required to see murderers for what they are -

try another religion nothing could be any worse than what you practice including your phony hereditary idolatry you claim as being special because abraham needed attention and knew how and who to get it from who would believe in burning bushes - from the heavens. 91 - the true scholar and historian.
Abraham was a great hero. He was THE FIRST rebellious adolescent----
a kid with a 1960's spirit. He wasted daddy's "CAPITALIST" idol business.
A regular JOHN LENNON----"imagine"
 
Abraham was a great hero. He was THE FIRST rebellious adolescent----
a kid with a 1960's spirit. He wasted daddy's "CAPITALIST" idol business.
A regular JOHN LENNON----"imagine"

sounds admirable -

what happened to him, the burning bush and claiming jews were special and how the jews believed him and try and convince everyone how good they are all in black like christens and their beeny hats and sideburns ... a swarm of roaches is no less appealing.

what good has ever come from any desert religion - throughout history.
 
sounds admirable -

what happened to him, the burning bush and claiming jews were special and how the jews believed him and try and convince everyone how good they are all in black like christens and their beeny hats and sideburns ... a swarm of roaches is no less appealing.

what good has ever come from any desert religion - throughout history.

sounds admirable -

what happened to him, the burning bush and claiming jews were special and how the jews believed him and try and convince everyone how good they are all in black like christens and their beeny hats and sideburns ... a swarm of roaches is no less appealing.

what good has ever come from any desert religion - throughout history.
Nothing that would appeal to your crowd---the tribe of Thulsa Doom
 

Democrats have been keeping blacks in economic bondage going on a century. Before that they kept them in real bondage. Every instance of police violence against blacks have been in Democratically controlled big cities. I would argue that Democrats pay lip service to blacks just as much as they pay lip service to Jews.

You say they don't openly discriminate against blacks, I say political affiliation does not magically change one's discrimination.

I would never have guessed that Judaism encourages a welfare state. I would have thought it would have been the exact opposite. Just like I would never have guessed that Judaic principles meshed with big government and government involvement in business.

Can you tell me which Judaic principles these would be?

Israel is a political entity. Judaism is a religion. Israel's values are steeped in political expediency with a backdrop of religious identity.

All I can say is that Israel's position on gay marriage and abortion - which I believe is influenced by their religious beliefs - seems to be at odds with the Democratic Party platform. And the Democratic Party's position on God and Israel seems to be at odds with Israel.

So as far as I am concerned I still think the disconnect between the two is a head scratcher.

Can a woman choose to have an abortion IN ISRAEL
patriarchy is still strong in Israel. It’s that father God thing I believe. Just not the son of God thing.

American Jewish women who are married vote democrat because they don’t want the Vatican or the nosy assed Catholic Church in the United States of America or the six Catholics in the Supreme Court taking control of their bodies.

If they could afford it, women who live in Taliban Texas could fly to Israel to get an abortion discreetly I am sure..

Basically if you’re married in and live in Israel you have to get permission from the state and your husband to have an abortion.

if you are married, and you need to go behind your husband‘s back, you can go to a private clinic in Israel, which is “illegal” but. no doctor in a private clinic has been charged with a crime for performing an abortion.

it is not saving baby fetus that women need state permission, it’s because religious men in Israel want to control the bodies of their wives and everybody’s wives

Same as in Taliban Texas.


it is probably mostly married women going to private clinics in Israel:

(in 2003) with 19,500 legal abortions performed and 200 requests for abortion denied …… teasons for termination went as follows:

The woman was unmarried (42%),


in Judaism sanctity of human life very much for the most part begins basically at first breath, or when the fetus becomes a child as he/she exits the birth canal. The crown of the head first appears.

Or in my case, it would’ve been when my little baby ass first appeared to the world.
 
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patriarchy is still strong in Israel. It’s that father God thing I believe. Just not the son of God thing.

American Jewish women who are married vote democrat because they don’t want the Vatican or the nosy assed Catholic Church in the United States of America or the six Catholics in the Supreme Court taking control of their bodies.

If they could afford it, women who live in Taliban Texas could fly to Israel to get an abortion discreetly I am sure..

Basically if you’re married in and live in Israel you have to get permission from the state and your husband to have an abortion.

if you are married, and you need to go behind your husband‘s back, you can go to a private clinic in Israel, which is “illegal” but. no doctor in a private clinic has been charged with a crime for performing an abortion.

it is not saving baby fetus that women need state permission, it’s because religious men in Israel want to control the bodies of their wives and everybody’s wives

Same as in Taliban Texas.


it is probably mostly married women going to private clinics in Israel:

(in 2003) with 19,500 legal abortions performed and 200 requests for abortion denied …… teasons for termination went as follows:

The woman was unmarried (42%),


in Judaism sanctity of human life very much for the most part begins basically at first breath, or when the fetus becomes a child as he/she exits the birth canal. The crown of the head first appears.

Or in my case, it would’ve been when my little baby ass first appeared to the world.
I took a quick look at the wikipedia page about abortions in Israel and saw no mention of a husband's permission. Could you provide some information backing that up?

 
the 1st century events ... what there is without the fabricated crucifixion, heavenly religion of antiquity the heavens admonition for their catastrophic event.

a walk in the park to free ones spirit for judgement and admission to the everlasting.
So which religion should I belong to?
 
in Judaism sanctity of human life very much for the most part begins basically at first breath, or when the fetus becomes a child as he/she exits the birth canal. The crown of the head first appears.

Or in my case, it would’ve been when my little baby ass first appeared to the world.
That’s a cold hard eye.
 
there is a strong historical connection and many (especially in the Conservative and Reform movements) who see the role of Judaism as fixing the world and that is sometimes equated with the SJW mentality. I don't say whether I like it or not, but I certainly understand it.
There’s a big difference between recognizing the world is unfair and letting it organically resolve itself and forcing it to resolve itself. That people don’t understand the value of sacrifice is to their own detriment.
 
I took a quick look at the wikipedia page about abortions in Israel and saw no mention of a husband's permission. Could you provide some information backing that up?



As a rational theist myself, I took the liberty to do a little deductive reasoning. I followed the “condition” found in the state regulation of abortion in Israel that makes the distinction between married and unmarried women being that the state pay for unmarried woman to have an abortion, but not if married.

My assumption:: The state of Israel is opposed to married women having an abortion.

If my assumption that a woman would need her husband‘s permission is a reason for that distinction in the law is erroneous, I am willing to hear some alternative logic on that aspect.


here’s the Wikipedia page:

Abortion in Israel is permitted when determined by a termination committee, with the vast majority of cases being approved, as of 2019.[1][2][3] The rate of abortion in Israel has steadily declined since 1988,[1]and compared to the rest of the world, abortion rates in Israel are moderate. According to government data, in Israel, abortion rates in 2016 dropped steadily to 9 per 1,000 women of childbearing age, lower than England (16.2) and the United States (13.2). 99% of abortions are carried out in the first trimester.[4]Despite allegations of permitting abortion under limited circumstances, Haaretz noted in 2019 that this is not the case, and abortion is almost always permitted in Israel.[2]

Abortion in Israel had been illegal, but became legal, subject to a termination committee's approval, under the penal code of 1977.[5]

Prior to 2014, approval for an abortion in Israel by a termination committee was given under limited circumstances, such as if the woman was unmarried, age considerations (if the woman was under the age of 18 – the legal marriage age in Israel – or over the age of 40), the pregnancy was conceived under illegal circumstances (rape, statutory rape, etc.) or an incestuous relationship, birth defects, or risk to the life or health of the mother. Subsequent to 2014, abortion up to the age of 33 can be provided for under the nationally funded health basket.[6]

According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics report from 2004, in 2003, most abortion requests were granted, with 19,500 legal abortions performed and 200 requests for abortion denied. Reasons for termination went as follows: The woman was unmarried (42%), illegal circumstances (11%), health risks to the woman (about 20%), age of the woman (11%), and fetal birth defects (about 17%).[7]Women who would not qualify for an abortion under the statutory scheme may seek an abortion at a private clinic, although abortion in a private clinic is illegal.

It was reported in 2012 that about half of all abortions in Israel were performed in private clinics, i. e., without committee approval. Women who undergo such an abortion do not face criminal penalties, but physicians who perform them face a fine, or up to five years' imprisonment; however, there have been no known prosecutions of physicians for performing non-committee-approved abortions.[8] About 20,000 abortions take place in Israel every year, with the figure remaining steady, despite a substantial increase in the population.
 
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As a rational theist myself, I took the liberty to do a little deductive reasoning. I followed the “condition” found in the state regulation of abortion in Israel that makes the distinction between married and unmarried women being that the state pay for unmarried woman to have an abortion, but not if married.

My assumption:: The state of Israel is opposed to married women having an abortion.

If my assumption that a woman would need her husband‘s permission is a reason for that distinction in the law is erroneous, I am willing to hear some alternative logic on that aspect.


here’s the Wikipedia page:

Abortion in Israel is permitted when determined by a termination committee, with the vast majority of cases being approved, as of 2019.[1][2][3] The rate of abortion in Israel has steadily declined since 1988,[1]and compared to the rest of the world, abortion rates in Israel are moderate. According to government data, in Israel, abortion rates in 2016 dropped steadily to 9 per 1,000 women of childbearing age, lower than England (16.2) and the United States (13.2). 99% of abortions are carried out in the first trimester.[4]Despite allegations of permitting abortion under limited circumstances, Haaretz noted in 2019 that this is not the case, and abortion is almost always permitted in Israel.[2]

Abortion in Israel had been illegal, but became legal, subject to a termination committee's approval, under the penal code of 1977.[5]

Prior to 2014, approval for an abortion in Israel by a termination committee was given under limited circumstances, such as if the woman was unmarried, age considerations (if the woman was under the age of 18 – the legal marriage age in Israel – or over the age of 40), the pregnancy was conceived under illegal circumstances (rape, statutory rape, etc.) or an incestuous relationship, birth defects, or risk to the life or health of the mother. Subsequent to 2014, abortion up to the age of 33 can be provided for under the nationally funded health basket.[6]

According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics report from 2004, in 2003, most abortion requests were granted, with 19,500 legal abortions performed and 200 requests for abortion denied. Reasons for termination went as follows: The woman was unmarried (42%), illegal circumstances (11%), health risks to the woman (about 20%), age of the woman (11%), and fetal birth defects (about 17%).[7]Women who would not qualify for an abortion under the statutory scheme may seek an abortion at a private clinic, although abortion in a private clinic is illegal.

It was reported in 2012 that about half of all abortions in Israel were performed in private clinics, i. e., without committee approval. Women who undergo such an abortion do not face criminal penalties, but physicians who perform them face a fine, or up to five years' imprisonment; however, there have been no known prosecutions of physicians for performing non-committee-approved abortions.[8] About 20,000 abortions take place in Israel every year, with the figure remaining steady, despite a substantial increase in the population.
It isn't a question of logicasl deduction. You made a claim about abortion in Israel, stating "Basically if you’re married in and live in Israel you have to get permission from the state and your husband to have an abortion." If that isn't in the law and is simply an assumption you are making, you should contextualize it as such.

Your other claim that "The state of Israel is opposed to married women having an abortion" is belied by the fact thatr abortion is legal under the law. The government has no opinion, it just has regulations.
 
sounds admirable - what happened to him, the burning bush and claiming jews were special
The burning bush story happened to Moses. And "Jews" are special just like Jesus is special, as is anyone who can grasp the complicated premise of the Law which amounts to cause and effect and learns to incorporate that teaching into their thinking and actions creating a new creature on earth. One that knows good and evil and chooses good becoming "like one of us" a "living being"

Separate from the violent bloodthirsty wild beasts of the field and that terrifying jabberwocky....
 
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Nothing that would appeal to your crowd---the tribe of Thulsa Doom
what good has ever come from any desert religion - throughout history.

- and speaking of the desert bibles, is there any proof for all their back ally encounters that happen to happen without a single witness for any one of them - like the burning bush - phony stone tablets --- is that why jews wear those beeny hats, to look real smart and sortof gives them a halo look for how holy they are.

the religions of myth and makebelieve - 91.
 
- and speaking of the desert bibles, is there any proof for all their back ally encounters that happen to happen without a single witness for any one of them - like the burning bush - phony stone tablets --- is that why jews wear those beeny hats, to look real smart and sortof gives them a halo look for how holy they are.

the religions of myth and makebelieve - 91.
I like that HALO LOOK idea
 
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