Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

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If one wishes to leave the religion because of the political views of some practitioners, then one does not have a real connection to Judaism to begin with.

 

[BreezeWood]

Are you being sarcastic?

No

You have convinced me. I’ll just have to punch Schiff in the face if I ever see him

too bad, there seemed hope for an engaged spirit ...

you then endorse the false commandments of moses and hereditary idolatry of abraham ... your religious motivation is the hostility for schiff their political views are not of those religious icons in your opinion.

1:1 w/ the heavens surly is not judaism ... you are very confused.

 

[BreezeWood]

If one wishes to leave the religion because of the political views of some practitioners, then one does not have a real connection to Judaism to begin with.

you then endorse the false commandments of moses and hereditary idolatry of abraham ...

very true ... best to hope other obvious reasons would be their motivation as well.

 

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Note: When I refer to American Jews in this response, I refer solely to the Reform and Conservative congregations. The, "let's look as much like protestants so we don't upset the neighbors" congregations. The non-observant, socially hyper-sensitive congregations that, until recent years, account for 95% of Jews that you will see in assimilated, mainstream society.

American Jews have a historical connection with liberal America that is over 100 years old. The American Jewish community that participates most in society were early supporters of Women's Suffrage, of Trade Unionism, of Civil Rights.

Most of those who settled Israel in the first half of the last century were of the same stripe. They were ideologically identical. Israel today still remains the most socially liberal nation for 10,000 miles in any direction. In many ways, much more socially liberal than America.

When Israel was fighting for it's existence in the '30s and '40s, American Jews were 100% behind them. Sending money, sending farm equipment. Ideological sons and daughters of American Jews flocked to Israel to build a Jewish State, a secular, socially liberal Jewish state.

When the destruction of Israel at the hands of Arab Armies was imminent, in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, the attackers were Arab countries with tanks, jets, missiles, and hundreds of thousands of soldiers. Moreover, they were sovereign countries whose sought to destroy Israel over a hatred of the Jewish state. There was no mention of liberation or them being oppressed by Jews. They simply hated Israel and wanted to kill all the Jews.

American Jews responded to these invasions with 100% support. American Jews gave blood, sent money, and ... in some cases ... rushed to Israel to help the fight (most of these wars were over so fast no one in America had time to buy a plane ticket to Israel).

It was after the humiliating defeat of Arab Armies once again in 1973 that Arab leaders finally realized that not only could they not destroy Israel with their massive armies. They looked bad every time they tried. Their leaders looked like failures to their people (a fatal error in Arab culture). They lost international aid and trade. They lost the support of international opinion (even among the Jew haters of Europe and America).

So, they changed tactics. They began to send their proxy fighters to attack Israel. The groups like The PLO, Hezbollah, ANO, PIJJ, Hamas, and many others, attacked Jews (and Americans who they thought might support Jews) with small-scale, low-tech attacks. Bombings, hijackings, targeted assassinations, and other tactics.

They went from looking like invading armies, to a rag-tag group of revolutionaries. They labeled themselves "freedom fighters" despite the fact they were fighting for no one's freedoms.

This image was harder for American Jews ... with their almost universally liberal bent ... to 100% denounce. The cracks in the support began to develop and grow.

Once the liberal media stopped referring to Arab aggression and started reporting on Palestinian resistance, the choice had to be made in the American Jewish community. "Do I want to follow the socially liberal doctrine and keep my liberal friends and still belong to my liberal organizations ... or ... do I want support my fellow Jews in Israel?".

For many, they decided Jews in Israel were so far away and being a card-carry member of The ACLU, the Urban League, Freedom Caucus, and others was much more important.

Israel hasn't changed in the past nearly 100 years ... it remains overwhelmingly socially liberal but also dedicated to fighting for their own survival. American Jews haven't changed, they remain overwhelmingly socially liberal first and Jewish second.

The only thing that has changed is the message. Israel has gone from being portrayed in the media as the scrappy, little country of survivors surrounded by bloodthirsty enemies and now they are being portrayed as colonialist war mongers who oppress the darker people around them.

Remember, the reality of the situation hasn't changed. Israel is still one of the most socially liberal countries on this planet and is still surrounded by bloodthirsty enemies ... but the liberal media refuses to acknowledge this.

That is the cause of the rift between many American Jews and Israelis

Wow. Very informative. You articulated that well. I need to soak on this.

 

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the israel of democrat truman is no more ...

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they too now vote for criminals and opportunist as the reversionist u s

in the name of religion those same people throughout history - persecution and victimization as their means for success.

So which religion should they follow?

 

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While the republican conservative ("family values") agenda was driven (historically) by a Christian religious sensibility whole Jews struggled to find a Jewish position which included less religious entanglement in government policy. The party which supported rights for outsiders (which included Jews) was the democratic party.

Ok, I understand what you are saying. I think it's a mistake but it's their mistake to make.

 

[BreezeWood]

So which religion should they follow?

the 1st century events ... what there is without the fabricated crucifixion, heavenly religion of antiquity the heavens admonition for their catastrophic event.

a walk in the park to free ones spirit for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

 

[rosends]

Ok, I understand what you are saying. I think it's a mistake but it's their mistake to make.

there is a strong historical connection and many (especially in the Conservative and Reform movements) who see the role of Judaism as fixing the world and that is sometimes equated with the SJW mentality. I don't say whether I like it or not, but I certainly understand it.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Nope. Just Islamists. Never said Arabs. If I am a psycho as you claim, dumb isn’t something that would describe me. I have Zero remorse for Islamists. None at all. What are you going to do about it?

And no one should ever have remorse for Zionist Jews either. Jewish supremacists are delusional, anti-human scum.

 

[TruthNotBS]

there is a strong historical connection and many (especially in the Conservative and Reform movements) who see the role of Judaism as fixing the world and that is sometimes equated with the SJW mentality. I don't say whether I like it or not, but I certainly understand it.

They're delusional goyim, brainwashed by their stupid Zionist interpretation of Christianity.

 

[TruthNotBS]

So your abandoning Judaism will change that?

Ever since I joined Chabad, I enjoy my Judaism more. Lots of supportive Republican Jewish friends with whom I’ve already had two celebration lunches the week of Trump’s win, one Election Party last Sunday, and I’ve already been invited to an Inauguration Party. I myself am having a Chanukah Party and inviting 8 new Jewish Republican friends.

The trick is to surround yourself with like-minded Jews - and also like-minded Christians - and just be happy that Americans have stopped the decline of America by voting in Trump.

I am giving you good advice, but of course you do whatever you want. All it will do is reduce the number of Jews in this country and give the HAMAS supporters what they want.

Like-minded Jewish Zionist scum, and stupid, brainwashed Christian goyim—your little echo-chamber.

 

[TruthNotBS]

That is like saying the devil overly hates us.

Why yes, that is what the devil does no matter what you do.

The Jews created the left. So who's really the devil? Them obviously. Their judeo-Semitic religion and culture are demonic (i.e. anti-human). They hate Western Christian civilization:

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They're trying to destroy it and they're doing a great job of it, thanks to the stupidity of their Christian slaves, who grovel at their feet, seeing every Jew as Jesus Christ.

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[AzogtheDefiler]

And no one should ever have remorse for Zionist Jews either. Jewish supremacists are delusional, anti-human scum.

Guilty as charged. I control The world and I am coming after you.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Guilty as charged. I control The world and I am coming after you.

KARL MARX WAS JEWISH.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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Made you post all that stuff. My mind control is working. You ll reply. I know it. Cause you’re my bitch.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Made you post all that stuff. My mind control is working. You ll reply. I know it. Cause you’re my bitch.

I don't respond for you but for the sake of others. Your dumb Jewish mind is filled with delusional narcissistic fantasies. I'm exposing the evil of your religion and culture. The best thing you can do as a human being, is reject your Jewishness and adopt another religion and culture. Rid yourself of your Jewish supremacist, anti-human religion and culture. That's the only way for Jews to be fully sane and humane— decent, civil human beings.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't respond for you but for the sake of others. Your dumb Jewish mind is filled with delusional narcissistic fantasies. I'm exposing the evil of your religion and culture. The best thing you can do as a human being, is reject your Jewishness and adopt another religion and culture. Rid yourself of your Jewish supremacist, anti-human religion and culture. That's the only way for Jews to be fully sane and humane—a decent, civil human being.

Ha you responded. Just like I said you would. Good boy.

 

[Lisa558]

And no one should ever have remorse for Zionist Jews either. Jewish supremacists are delusional, anti-human scum.

^^^ no antisemitism here, lol.

 

[Lisa558]

Ha you responded. Just like I said you would. Good boy.

This forum has become a haven for Stormfront refugees. I wonder whatever happened to the announcement that USMB would have a new “lower tolerance” for antisemitism.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Ha you responded. Just like I said you would. Good boy.

I know you don't like seeing your Jewish religion and culture exposed for the evil, piece of shit that it is, but I will continue to respond until I determine to allow you, to have the last word. Either way, I win and you lose.