I am done

[JakeStarkey]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

so you took a partisan oath?

lol

let;s face it, the military is a joke. always has been

American history proves you both right and wrong, I suppose. But for millions, perhaps, of Americans, the opinion of those who served would disagree with yours.

 

[Againsheila]

To actually think that BHO would use the armed forces against American civilians beggars belief, conhog, and it demonstrates that you live in la la land at times.

Why? Bush did that after Katrina, why do you think Obama is above that?

Calling out the NG to patrol a NO without police forces is not quite what conhog has in mind.

And calling out the NG in that scenario by Bush was the correct decision, imho, and I am no fan of Bush as most everyone knows here.

I have no qualms about the NG being called up, they should have been there 5 days previously, having them take guns away from American citizens, THAT's what I have a problem with....

 

[SFC Ollie]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Why? Bush did that after Katrina, why do you think Obama is above that?

Calling out the NG to patrol a NO without police forces is not quite what conhog has in mind.

And calling out the NG in that scenario by Bush was the correct decision, imho, and I am no fan of Bush as most everyone knows here.

I have no qualms about the NG being called up, they should have been there 5 days previously, having them take guns away from American citizens, THAT's what I have a problem with....

The only reason any guns were taken was because some dumb asses were firing at the relief helicopters. Sorry about that shit, would you rather we brought in a few attack choppers and fired back?

 

[MaggieMae]

I retired in 93 after 22 years of service. I had 3 years left on my current enlistment at the time. I was tired of it, you could say it simply wasn't fun anymore. Clinton taking office was part of the considerations. I could have stayed, I could have done another 6 years without a promotion. I simply couldn't see it. Why would I serve under a CIC who I considered a draft dodger?

Point is there are many reasons why someone with over 20 years decides to retire. Many retire immediately after hitting that 20 year mark. Some stay a few years longer. I salute them all.

I'm curious how you feel now that we have an all-volunteer force and "draft dodging" takes place by another name: Avoidance.

We've had an all volunteer force since the early 70's. And today ,since you brought it up, you will find more conservatives on active duty than you will find liberals. And yes if you want I can provide a link from 2 or 3 years back to prove this. But I've posted it dozens of times on this board. Never seems to phase certain people.

I have nothing but respect for anyone's service, who puts on the uniform today. For what ever reason.

I'm not disputing that career military are more conservative, and I think that probably harkens back to Reagan's huge sense of American pride that he instilled in all of us and it's carried over. Nothing wrong with that. But I also think there are other reasons, like the fact that many of the big military bases are located in the traditionally conservative South and which have a direct effect on surrounding economic conditions.

But that wasn't my point. I'm wondering (and I have no facts, it's a curiosity), how many young recruits would choose to further their education and careers without having to put on a uniform in order to do it, now that they have that option.

 

[HUGGY]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

There are plenty of "tough" civilian jobs. Alaskan commercial fisherman get killed almost as frequently as military when you count all of the numbers. They bust their asses as hard as any occupation. Mountain loggers are also hard working mofo's hanging their asses "out on a limb" (sorry) in extremely difficult and life threatening circumstances. I grew up around both of these occupations and funerals were not infrequent.

 

[Againsheila]

Calling out the NG to patrol a NO without police forces is not quite what conhog has in mind.

And calling out the NG in that scenario by Bush was the correct decision, imho, and I am no fan of Bush as most everyone knows here.

I have no qualms about the NG being called up, they should have been there 5 days previously, having them take guns away from American citizens, THAT's what I have a problem with....

The only reason any guns were taken was because some dumb asses were firing at the relief helicopters. Sorry about that shit, would you rather we brought in a few attack choppers and fired back?

They went door to door in nice neighborhoods, taking guns away from American citizens, leaving them helpless. This wasn't in the area where the relief copters were fired upon....

Most of it didn't even make the news and some of the National Guardsmen complained that they never expected to be doing that to American citizens.

 

[MaggieMae]

To actually think that BHO would use the armed forces against American civilians beggars belief, conhog, and it demonstrates that you live in la la land at times.

Ironically, however, the opposite is happening. There are armed civilian militias whose intent is to take on U.S. armed forces and overthrow the government.

 

[MaggieMae]

To actually think that BHO would use the armed forces against American civilians beggars belief, conhog, and it demonstrates that you live in la la land at times.

Why? Bush did that after Katrina, why do you think Obama is above that?

WHOT? How did Bush use armed forces (The Guard) against American civilians during Katrina? Maybe herding a few looters off to whatever jail might still be standing, but that's it. That's rather a stretch, isn't it?

 

[Mr Natural]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

Once you make E-5 your working days are over.

 

[MaggieMae]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

I think Reagan might say that his civilian job as POTUS-CIC was a little more difficult than his PR job when he actually served in the Army. That said, just as there are slackers in civilian life, there are plenty of slackers who join the military and do everything to insinuate themselves into the more cushy assignments.

 

[Mr Natural]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

I think Reagan might say that his civilian job as POTUS-CIC was a little more difficult than his PR job when he actually served in the Army. That said, just as there are slackers in civilian life, there are plenty of slackers who join the military and do everything to insinuate themselves into the more cushy assignments.

And then there are those who score high enough on their aptitude tests to have their picks of career fields.

I can tell you from personal experience that a squadron E-5 Aviation Electronics Technician is not exactly what you might call "overworked".

 

[ConHog]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

I think Reagan might say that his civilian job as POTUS-CIC was a little more difficult than his PR job when he actually served in the Army. That said, just as there are slackers in civilian life, there are plenty of slackers who join the military and do everything to insinuate themselves into the more cushy assignments.

Of course there are, that's human nature, and the military isn't exempt from it, But Gomer Pyle wasn't real life, and the military does a pretty good job of rooting those folks out.

 

[MaggieMae]

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

I think Reagan might say that his civilian job as POTUS-CIC was a little more difficult than his PR job when he actually served in the Army. That said, just as there are slackers in civilian life, there are plenty of slackers who join the military and do everything to insinuate themselves into the more cushy assignments.

Of course there are, that's human nature, and the military isn't exempt from it, But Gomer Pyle wasn't real life, and the military does a pretty good job of rooting those folks out.

Is that why at the peak of the Iraq war, they lowered their standards allowing drug addicts and people with criminal records to join?

 

[ConHog]

I think Reagan might say that his civilian job as POTUS-CIC was a little more difficult than his PR job when he actually served in the Army. That said, just as there are slackers in civilian life, there are plenty of slackers who join the military and do everything to insinuate themselves into the more cushy assignments.

Of course there are, that's human nature, and the military isn't exempt from it, But Gomer Pyle wasn't real life, and the military does a pretty good job of rooting those folks out.

Is that why at the peak of the Iraq war, they lowered their standards allowing drug addicts and people with criminal records to join?

Sure they let them in, gave them a second chance. if they fucked up though they went to Leavenworth, are you against second chances Maggie?

 

[Dante]

the military is bigger than any one man or group of men.

It will survive.

where is the story here?

good luck in your bitterness conhoggy

 

[SFC Ollie]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.

It is obvious you were never in the military. I haven't seen a civilian job as tough as the easiest days in the military.

Once you make E-5 your working days are over.

That's more BS than a little bit.Unless of course you are a dirtbag NCO, unfortunately there are a few of those.

 

[ConHog]

the military is bigger than any one man or group of men.

It will survive.

where is the story here?

good luck in your bitterness conhoggy

Who said it wouldn't survive without me? Exaggerate much?

And I'm not bitter. Retirement is great.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yes it is....

 

[Luissa]

the military is bigger than any one man or group of men.

It will survive.

where is the story here?

good luck in your bitterness conhoggy

Who said it wouldn't survive without me? Exaggerate much?

And I'm not bitter. Retirement is great.

If I post on average 98 posts a day on a message board when I retire, I would probably kill myself. You should trade in the Ferrari and buy yourself an Rv or something, or take up golfing.
I also put money on you having an average of 100 posts on at least one other board, if not two.