I am done

[Douger]

Awwwwwwwwwwwww. KornHole.
Rest easy.
murka will be fine after you retire.
There are tens of thousands of other brainwashed assholes to take your place.
I hear Blackwater/XE are looking for a "few good men'.

 

[MaggieMae]

Agreed, the military did love Ronnie. There was a lot of Senior NCO's and Junior Officers who left under Clinton though.......

Which I have never gotten. I am not saying they are cowards, it just seems wrong to me. You take an oath don't you? And isn't that oath about protecting the people, our country, and the constitution? What about the young men who took an oath and cannot leave, and are the ones over seas actually fighting the war? Aren't you letting them down by giving up because you don't like President? They don't have a choice, to me it sounds like Conhog, is just telling them his political views are more important then doing the job he took an oath to do.

I retired in 93 after 22 years of service. I had 3 years left on my current enlistment at the time. I was tired of it, you could say it simply wasn't fun anymore. Clinton taking office was part of the considerations. I could have stayed, I could have done another 6 years without a promotion. I simply couldn't see it. Why would I serve under a CIC who I considered a draft dodger?

Point is there are many reasons why someone with over 20 years decides to retire. Many retire immediately after hitting that 20 year mark. Some stay a few years longer. I salute them all.

I'm curious how you feel now that we have an all-volunteer force and "draft dodging" takes place by another name: Avoidance.

 

[Luissa]

Wow I hadn't even looked at this thread in awhile, the thing that really jumps out at me are

1. Jake defending me despite our many arguments , thank you for that.
2. Ravi calling me a coward = LOL ***** I've served in two war zones in two seperate decades and have a purple heart earned in the first one as well as various other awards and such. None of which makes me special since thousands have given their blood or worse in the last 20 years alone for this country; but it does say "he was not a coward."
3. And this one doesn't surprise me really. Luissa being confused and thinking an officer resigning his commission after 22 years of service is dishonorable. LOL

I am not confused. For one I don't even believe you were in the service, second I think it takes a weak person to use the President as an excuse. I think you are dishonorable in general, and this thread had nothing to do with that.

 

[Againsheila]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

Um, not offense, but what about Bush? The Iraq war based on WMDs that weren't there? Then trying to blame it on 9/11 when 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and none were from Iraq and he pulled out troops OUT of Saudi Arabia? How about when the Chinese shot down our plane and he apologized and paid them money?

And I'm not even going to go into Clinton and what a disgrace he was......

I don't like Obama either but if you were going to quit because of the POTUS, you should have quit under Clinton, or Bush...

 

[MaggieMae]

Not to engage in thread necromancy, but I've given more neg rep in this thread than I have the rest of the time I've been here, I think.

ConHog, you owe no one any explanation for your decision. Thank you for your service.

Two+ months since the last post? Hmmm, musta been a slow day on the message board yesterday so I see I didn't miss anything.

CH mentioned this thread to me, so I thought I'd check it out.

That he directed it to you is pretty much a given! CH does love those kudos!!

 

[Luissa]

Agreed, the military did love Ronnie. There was a lot of Senior NCO's and Junior Officers who left under Clinton though.......

Which I have never gotten. I am not saying they are cowards, it just seems wrong to me. You take an oath don't you? And isn't that oath about protecting the people, our country, and the constitution? What about the young men who took an oath and cannot leave, and are the ones over seas actually fighting the war? Aren't you letting them down by giving up because you don't like President? They don't have a choice, to me it sounds like Conhog, is just telling them his political views are more important then doing the job he took an oath to do.

I retired in 93 after 22 years of service. I had 3 years left on my current enlistment at the time. I was tired of it, you could say it simply wasn't fun anymore. Clinton taking office was part of the considerations. I could have stayed, I could have done another 6 years without a promotion. I simply couldn't see it. Why would I serve under a CIC who I considered a draft dodger?

Point is there are many reasons why someone with over 20 years decides to retire. Many retire immediately after hitting that 20 year mark. Some stay a few years longer. I salute them all.

At least you got a choice.

 

[ConHog]

Wow I hadn't even looked at this thread in awhile, the thing that really jumps out at me are

1. Jake defending me despite our many arguments , thank you for that.
2. Ravi calling me a coward = LOL ***** I've served in two war zones in two seperate decades and have a purple heart earned in the first one as well as various other awards and such. None of which makes me special since thousands have given their blood or worse in the last 20 years alone for this country; but it does say "he was not a coward."
3. And this one doesn't surprise me really. Luissa being confused and thinking an officer resigning his commission after 22 years of service is dishonorable. LOL

I am not confused. For one I don't even believe you were in the service, second I think it takes a weak person to use the President as an excuse. I think you are dishonorable in general, and this thread had nothing to do with that.

I have provided plenty of proof to satisfy those who actually know about such things. Your opinion matters not in the least to me.

As for dishonorable. I have seen by your various dealings on the board that you equate dishonorable to disagreeing with you , so once again, I don't care.

 

[Douger]

DD2-14 anyone ?
Got a scanner ?

 

[MaggieMae]

The problem is who knows for sure on an anonymous message board what someone's true history is? I could search for some military credentials, search for some war or conflict where a particular unit fought, even pluck some particulars to make it appear that I'd served and fought there too. I take whatever ANYBODY says about their past here with a grain of salt, especially people who take great effort in trying to prove their worth.

I tend to be a little more lenient when it comes to claims of military service.

Anyone is welcome at Military.com, under their terms, those that served and civilians. Anyone making false claims about service, there, will be vetted, and dealt with harshly.

Military.com Mobile | Headline News

In this day and age of anonymity and braggadocio, I expect they're kept pretty busy!

 

[ConHog]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

Um, not offense, but what about Bush? The Iraq war based on WMDs that weren't there? Then trying to blame it on 9/11 when 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and none were from Iraq and he pulled out troops OUT of Saudi Arabia? How about when the Chinese shot down our plane and he apologized and paid them money?

And I'm not even going to go into Clinton and what a disgrace he was......

I don't like Obama either but if you were going to quit because of the POTUS, you should have quit under Clinton, or Bush...

Okay, let's be clear. I was no fan of Bush's either, I did like Clinton but don't believe he was a good military President.

However, circumstances change.

A) I wasn't eligible to retire with full benefits when Clinton or Bush were in office - and yes my family comes first, so sue me for that.

B) I never believed that Bush might some day use the military against Americans the way I did and do believe that Obama will do one day. It wasn't about fighting our enemies, I was willing to fight whatever enemy Obama pointed us to, except Americans, and I do believe it will happen. In fact the reason this thread got re opened was because one of our very own Obama lovers was just last night advocating sending the military after Americans who disagree with Obama.

 

[HUGGY]

That was totally uncalled for. I have shed my blood for this country. I have been separated from my family 3 years out of the last 20, which admittedly isn't as much as some military members. I have given 20 years plus of my life defending the very flag which guarantees your right to call me a douche.

This is a personal decision that has been coming for awhile, the fact that I am looking at another potential deployment , this time to somewhere along the southern border again, to sit it an office while our border is invaded played a big part in that decision.

I am worried that a point is going to come where the US military is going to be called upon to fire upon American citizens, and that I will not do.

I would however defend you if Obama one day decides to use the military to quash your rights; and yes I fear that day may come soon.

Nope, the decision is made......

I thought you said you served drug warrents for the DEA. What's that have to do with Obama?

Since you brought it up...where were you wounded and in what circumstances?

Huggy, I was national guard, full time. My duty station was with the Arkansas National Guard Counter Drug Unit. That doesn't mean that I couldn't have been reassigned or federalized at any time.

As for where and when was I injured. Sep 1991 about 30 miles southwest of Al Basrah, Iraq we were escorting prisoners south and got caught up in an ambush in which two of our vehicles were disabled. I ended up taking a round to the leg. It was the next morning before help arrived. Not a pleasant night.

I thought you hillbillies were all about the moonshine whiskey. Oh that's right THE CLINTONS were drug dealers!

Never been shot so it is hard to relate to your injury. I stabbed myself in the leg with a scissors as a kid. I was so embarressed I didn't tell my folks for a couple of days.

Probably not the same. Got shot AT a couple of times ...only hit the plane's fuselage. Had a few guns pulled on me.. nothing came of it.

How did you feel about the first Iraqi war? Do you believe we did the right thing by getting involved in Iraq's and Kuaitt's oil dispute?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Which I have never gotten. I am not saying they are cowards, it just seems wrong to me. You take an oath don't you? And isn't that oath about protecting the people, our country, and the constitution? What about the young men who took an oath and cannot leave, and are the ones over seas actually fighting the war? Aren't you letting them down by giving up because you don't like President? They don't have a choice, to me it sounds like Conhog, is just telling them his political views are more important then doing the job he took an oath to do.

I retired in 93 after 22 years of service. I had 3 years left on my current enlistment at the time. I was tired of it, you could say it simply wasn't fun anymore. Clinton taking office was part of the considerations. I could have stayed, I could have done another 6 years without a promotion. I simply couldn't see it. Why would I serve under a CIC who I considered a draft dodger?

Point is there are many reasons why someone with over 20 years decides to retire. Many retire immediately after hitting that 20 year mark. Some stay a few years longer. I salute them all.

I'm curious how you feel now that we have an all-volunteer force and "draft dodging" takes place by another name: Avoidance.

We've had an all volunteer force since the early 70's. And today ,since you brought it up, you will find more conservatives on active duty than you will find liberals. And yes if you want I can provide a link from 2 or 3 years back to prove this. But I've posted it dozens of times on this board. Never seems to phase certain people.

I have nothing but respect for anyone's service, who puts on the uniform today. For what ever reason.

 

[MaggieMae]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

Um, not offense, but what about Bush? The Iraq war based on WMDs that weren't there? Then trying to blame it on 9/11 when 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and none were from Iraq and he pulled out troops OUT of Saudi Arabia? How about when the Chinese shot down our plane and he apologized and paid them money?

And I'm not even going to go into Clinton and what a disgrace he was......

I don't like Obama either but if you were going to quit because of the POTUS, you should have quit under Clinton, or Bush...

Okay, let's be clear. I was no fan of Bush's either, I did like Clinton but don't believe he was a good military President.

However, circumstances change.

A) I wasn't eligible to retire with full benefits when Clinton or Bush were in office - and yes my family comes first, so sue me for that.

B) I never believed that Bush might some day use the military against Americans the way I did and do believe that Obama will do one day. It wasn't about fighting our enemies, I was willing to fight whatever enemy Obama pointed us to, except Americans, and I do believe it will happen. In fact the reason this thread got re opened was because one of our very own Obama lovers was just last night advocating sending the military after Americans who disagree with Obama.

Then why didn't you start a new thread on that? Or ask Daveman to? This is why I don't believe hardly anything you say. I haven't read all your thousands of posts, but enough to know that you will try to come up with what you think is a logical explanation for something (or a stand) that is completely opposite from what you have previously said/supported/not supported in other threads.

 

[Againsheila]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

Um, not offense, but what about Bush? The Iraq war based on WMDs that weren't there? Then trying to blame it on 9/11 when 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and none were from Iraq and he pulled out troops OUT of Saudi Arabia? How about when the Chinese shot down our plane and he apologized and paid them money?

And I'm not even going to go into Clinton and what a disgrace he was......

I don't like Obama either but if you were going to quit because of the POTUS, you should have quit under Clinton, or Bush...

Okay, let's be clear. I was no fan of Bush's either, I did like Clinton but don't believe he was a good military President.

However, circumstances change.

A) I wasn't eligible to retire with full benefits when Clinton or Bush were in office - and yes my family comes first, so sue me for that.

B) I never believed that Bush might some day use the military against Americans the way I did and do believe that Obama will do one day. It wasn't about fighting our enemies, I was willing to fight whatever enemy Obama pointed us to, except Americans, and I do believe it will happen. In fact the reason this thread got re opened was because one of our very own Obama lovers was just last night advocating sending the military after Americans who disagree with Obama.

Well, I think you're wrong there....Why do you think Bush bought all that land in Paraguay? He's had his escape planned for a long time....Obama probably plans on escaping to Kenya. When Bush was asked what all those camps Fema was building were for he just smiled. Those camps are for us, and they were started under Bush....the truth is, I don't believe any of our presidents have really been our leaders for many years. There is an elite group behind the scenes pulling the strings....yes I know, this makes me a conspiracy theorist but just 'cause I'm a conspiracy theorist doesn't mean there are no conspiracies.

Please explain to me how our military could get to the victims of a Tsunami 1/2 way around the world in two days when no one knew it was coming but it took 5 days to get to the Katrina victims when we knew the storm was coming 4 days before it got there?

Also, why did they go door to door at the houses that were not destroyed and collect the guns, leaving the homeowners defenseless at a time when New Orleans was extremely dangerous? That was all under Bush.

I think he proved at that point that he wasn't interested in the American people at all.

I do however, take your point about not having enough time in....my father retired at 20 years as a Major. He went on to have two other careers. One as an accountant, another as a college professor.

 

[JakeStarkey]

To actually think that BHO would use the armed forces against American civilians beggars belief, conhog, and it demonstrates that you live in la la land at times.

 

[Dante]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

so you took a partisan oath?


lol

let;s face it, the military is a joke. always has been

 

[Againsheila]

To actually think that BHO would use the armed forces against American civilians beggars belief, conhog, and it demonstrates that you live in la la land at times.

Why? Bush did that after Katrina, why do you think Obama is above that?

 

[Luissa]

When you retire over your political views, think about all the people who were not able to leave the military when their time was suppose to be up, because there was a war going on. Just a suggestion. I bet they would have loved to quit over such a trivial reason.

 

[JakeStarkey]

To actually think that BHO would use the armed forces against American civilians beggars belief, conhog, and it demonstrates that you live in la la land at times.

Why? Bush did that after Katrina, why do you think Obama is above that?

Calling out the NG to patrol a NO without police forces is not quite what conhog has in mind.

And calling out the NG in that scenario by Bush was the correct decision, imho, and I am no fan of Bush as most everyone knows here.

 

[Mr Natural]

If you're not happy with the boss then get the hell out.

But good luck trying to find a cushier job in the real world.