I am done

[camcooh2]

Some despise Obama, some like him, but all despise a comment like than of camcoon2 that attempts to undermine the good order and discipline of the armed forces.

You give me too much credit. "Undermine the good order and discipline of the armed forces"?? What, for suggesting that most members of the armed forces despise Obama? It's the truth. The community organizer/imposter-in-chief just has a vastly different view of things than mainstream military personnel. As for your assertion that you somehow know a lot of military people who quit under RR's term, that's just complete horseshit. The military loved Reagan.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Agreed, the military did love Ronnie. There was a lot of Senior NCO's and Junior Officers who left under Clinton though.......

 

[Luissa]

Agreed, the military did love Ronnie. There was a lot of Senior NCO's and Junior Officers who left under Clinton though.......

Which I have never gotten. I am not saying they are cowards, it just seems wrong to me. You take an oath don't you? And isn't that oath about protecting the people, our country, and the constitution? What about the young men who took an oath and cannot leave, and are the ones over seas actually fighting the war? Aren't you letting them down by giving up because you don't like President? They don't have a choice, to me it sounds like Conhog, is just telling them his political views are more important then doing the job he took an oath to do.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Luissa, I am no fan of conhog. However, he has met his service obligations, and he has elected to not re-volunteer because of Obama's leadership. He is not betraying his oath or his comrades at all, but rather following his conscience. Many officers and NCOs left when their time permitted because of RR's and WJC's perceived lack of leadership or covert betrayal of our fighting men and women. Everyone of those decisions are morally justified, imho, if those men and women have fulfilled their oath to the Constitution and the country, have served out their commitment, and are leaving the service honorably.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Agreed, the military did love Ronnie. There was a lot of Senior NCO's and Junior Officers who left under Clinton though.......

Which I have never gotten. I am not saying they are cowards, it just seems wrong to me. You take an oath don't you? And isn't that oath about protecting the people, our country, and the constitution? What about the young men who took an oath and cannot leave, and are the ones over seas actually fighting the war? Aren't you letting them down by giving up because you don't like President? They don't have a choice, to me it sounds like Conhog, is just telling them his political views are more important then doing the job he took an oath to do.

I retired in 93 after 22 years of service. I had 3 years left on my current enlistment at the time. I was tired of it, you could say it simply wasn't fun anymore. Clinton taking office was part of the considerations. I could have stayed, I could have done another 6 years without a promotion. I simply couldn't see it. Why would I serve under a CIC who I considered a draft dodger?

Point is there are many reasons why someone with over 20 years decides to retire. Many retire immediately after hitting that 20 year mark. Some stay a few years longer. I salute them all.

 

[geauxtohell]

I can no longer be part of a military that answers to this disaster. I am putting my retirement papers in tomorrow. Sad decision after 21 years but I just can't even think about fighting for this socialist jerkoff we have serving in the White House now.

So how did the whole retirement process go?

 

[MaggieMae]

Not to engage in thread necromancy, but I've given more neg rep in this thread than I have the rest of the time I've been here, I think.

ConHog, you owe no one any explanation for your decision. Thank you for your service.

Two+ months since the last post? Hmmm, musta been a slow day on the message board yesterday so I see I didn't miss anything.

 

[MaggieMae]

wow look! Ravi has an avatar!

And it's pretty appropriate. I neg repped her for her stupid post in this thread, so she neg repped a post of mine in Radioman's truck thread, saying "I think you dropped this."

Neg reps are little tantrums, inviting payback. They only prove one thing: That smugness only lasts a few minutes or a day at best.

 

[MaggieMae]

And if he'd dropped his papers when Bush was President, you'd be hailing him as a true American patriot and a hero.

Nope, he'd still be a coward.

20+ years of service. Shed blood. You're full of crap.

The problem is who knows for sure on an anonymous message board what someone's true history is? I could search for some military credentials, search for some war or conflict where a particular unit fought, even pluck some particulars to make it appear that I'd served and fought there too. I take whatever ANYBODY says about their past here with a grain of salt, especially people who take great effort in trying to prove their worth.

 

[MaggieMae]

My brother-in-law retired from the Air Force after 20 years, just last year. I guess he's a coward too.

And my nephew just joined, a true conservative Texas redneck born and raised. He just graduated from boot camp and was set to deploy to Soule, but was chosen for the Honor Guard instead. With an all-volunteer military, I would hope that most join (and remain) to honor country first, not politics first.

 

[daveman]

Not to engage in thread necromancy, but I've given more neg rep in this thread than I have the rest of the time I've been here, I think.

ConHog, you owe no one any explanation for your decision. Thank you for your service.

Two+ months since the last post? Hmmm, musta been a slow day on the message board yesterday so I see I didn't miss anything.

CH mentioned this thread to me, so I thought I'd check it out.

 

[daveman]

wow look! Ravi has an avatar!

And it's pretty appropriate. I neg repped her for her stupid post in this thread, so she neg repped a post of mine in Radioman's truck thread, saying "I think you dropped this."

Neg reps are little tantrums, inviting payback. They only prove one thing: That smugness only lasts a few minutes or a day at best.

This is the first board I've been on with the rep functions. It's amazing to me how seriously people can take neg rep. Some people really lose their minds over it.

 

[daveman]

Nope, he'd still be a coward.

20+ years of service. Shed blood. You're full of crap.

The problem is who knows for sure on an anonymous message board what someone's true history is? I could search for some military credentials, search for some war or conflict where a particular unit fought, even pluck some particulars to make it appear that I'd served and fought there too. I take whatever ANYBODY says about their past here with a grain of salt, especially people who take great effort in trying to prove their worth.

I tend to be a little more lenient when it comes to claims of military service.

 

[HUGGY]

Corndog must really hate his country.

If we were attacked by terrorists, he's be on the USMB posting instead of using his 'military skills' to defend our country, all because he hates the President so much.

What a douche.

That was totally uncalled for. I have shed my blood for this country. I have been separated from my family 3 years out of the last 20, which admittedly isn't as much as some military members. I have given 20 years plus of my life defending the very flag which guarantees your right to call me a douche.

This is a personal decision that has been coming for awhile, the fact that I am looking at another potential deployment , this time to somewhere along the southern border again, to sit it an office while our border is invaded played a big part in that decision.

I am worried that a point is going to come where the US military is going to be called upon to fire upon American citizens, and that I will not do.

I would however defend you if Obama one day decides to use the military to quash your rights; and yes I fear that day may come soon.

Nope, the decision is made......

I thought you said you served drug warrents for the DEA. What's that have to do with Obama?

Since you brought it up...where were you wounded and in what circumstances?

 

[Intense]

cornjob is a coward. That is all.

And if he'd dropped his papers when Bush was President, you'd be hailing him as a true American patriot and a hero.

Nope, he'd still be a coward.

Disenfranchised yes. Coward no. Why insinuate such a claim Ravi???

 

[ConHog]

Wow I hadn't even looked at this thread in awhile, the thing that really jumps out at me are

1. Jake defending me despite our many arguments , thank you for that.
2. Ravi calling me a coward = LOL ***** I've served in two war zones in two seperate decades and have a purple heart earned in the first one as well as various other awards and such. None of which makes me special since thousands have given their blood or worse in the last 20 years alone for this country; but it does say "he was not a coward."
3. And this one doesn't surprise me really. Luissa being confused and thinking an officer resigning his commission after 22 years of service is dishonorable. LOL

 

[Intense]

And it's pretty appropriate. I neg repped her for her stupid post in this thread, so she neg repped a post of mine in Radioman's truck thread, saying "I think you dropped this."

Neg reps are little tantrums, inviting payback. They only prove one thing: That smugness only lasts a few minutes or a day at best.

This is the first board I've been on with the rep functions. It's amazing to me how seriously people can take neg rep. Some people really lose their minds over it.

Weapon of last resort. How many Presidents have had their finger over the button and refrained. Learn from that.

 

[MaggieMae]

Some despise Obama, some like him, but all despise a comment like than of camcoon2 that attempts to undermine the good order and discipline of the armed forces.

You give me too much credit. "Undermine the good order and discipline of the armed forces"?? What, for suggesting that most members of the armed forces despise Obama? It's the truth. The community organizer/imposter-in-chief just has a vastly different view of things than mainstream military personnel. As for your assertion that you somehow know a lot of military people who quit under RR's term, that's just complete horseshit. The military loved Reagan.

If the vast majority despise Obama, I guess they're also not appreciative of the fact that he pushed through a new bill that basically restored the old post WWII "GI Bill" which allows veterans of Iraq/Afghanistan to pursue higher education.

Welcome to the GI Bill Web Site | The Home for All Educational Benefits Provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs

Or more recently signed the Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act which:

•Expands mental health counseling and services for veterans from Afghanistan and Iraq, including our National Guardsmen and Reservists.

•Authorizes the VA to utilize hospitals and clinics outside the VA system to serve more wounded warriors with traumatic brain injury.

•Increases support to veterans in rural areas, with the transportation and housing they need to reach VA hospitals and clinics.

•Expands and improves health care for women veterans, to meet their unique needs, including maternity care for newborn children.

•Launches a pilot program to provide child care for veterans receiving intensive medical care.

•Eliminates co-pays for veterans who are catastrophically disabled.

•Expands support to homeless veterans

•Increases aid to families and caregivers who tend to our wounded warriors every day.

 

[ConHog]

Corndog must really hate his country.

If we were attacked by terrorists, he's be on the USMB posting instead of using his 'military skills' to defend our country, all because he hates the President so much.

What a douche.

That was totally uncalled for. I have shed my blood for this country. I have been separated from my family 3 years out of the last 20, which admittedly isn't as much as some military members. I have given 20 years plus of my life defending the very flag which guarantees your right to call me a douche.

This is a personal decision that has been coming for awhile, the fact that I am looking at another potential deployment , this time to somewhere along the southern border again, to sit it an office while our border is invaded played a big part in that decision.

I am worried that a point is going to come where the US military is going to be called upon to fire upon American citizens, and that I will not do.

I would however defend you if Obama one day decides to use the military to quash your rights; and yes I fear that day may come soon.

Nope, the decision is made......

I thought you said you served drug warrents for the DEA. What's that have to do with Obama?

Since you brought it up...where were you wounded and in what circumstances?

Huggy, I was national guard, full time. My duty station was with the Arkansas National Guard Counter Drug Unit. That doesn't mean that I couldn't have been reassigned or federalized at any time.

As for where and when was I injured. Sep 1991 about 30 miles southwest of Al Basrah, Iraq we were escorting prisoners south and got caught up in an ambush in which two of our vehicles were disabled. I ended up taking a round to the leg. It was the next morning before help arrived. Not a pleasant night.

 

[Intense]

20+ years of service. Shed blood. You're full of crap.

The problem is who knows for sure on an anonymous message board what someone's true history is? I could search for some military credentials, search for some war or conflict where a particular unit fought, even pluck some particulars to make it appear that I'd served and fought there too. I take whatever ANYBODY says about their past here with a grain of salt, especially people who take great effort in trying to prove their worth.

I tend to be a little more lenient when it comes to claims of military service.

Anyone is welcome at Military.com, under their terms, those that served and civilians. Anyone making false claims about service, there, will be vetted, and dealt with harshly.

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