Huge Gaping Puss-filled Hole in Tea Party Argument on Obamacare/PPACA

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Huge Gaping Puss-filled Hole in Tea Party Argument on Obamacare/PPACA

Argument: Americans need to know how the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, will work before it is implemented.

Hello?

How the heck could anyone know how anything like that would work b-e-f-o-r-e it is enacted? The disingenuousness of such an argument is totally out of right field. Only others living in a self-contained bubble could hear that and believe it makes any sense or deals with the real world.

 

[Daktoria]

Are you saying people are obligated to learn from experience when they can't prove in advance that something can go wrong?

 

[Tank]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU]Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It" - YouTube[/ame]

 

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Are you saying people are obligated to learn from experience when they can't prove in advance that something can go wrong?

What are the Tea Party imbecilles asking?

Can't have experince before it exists

 

[peach174]

Huge Gaping Puss-filled Hole in Tea Party Argument on Obamacare/PPACA

Argument: Americans need to know how the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, will work before it is implemented.

Hello?

How the heck could anyone know how anything like that would work b-e-f-o-r-e it is enacted? The disingenuousness of such an argument is totally out of right field. Only others living in a self-contained bubble could hear that and believe it makes any sense or deals with the real world.

Doesn't anyone who plays board games have to know the rules before they play it?
No one knows the rules or even the details to the New Health Care Act.

 

[Daktoria]

Are you saying people are obligated to learn from experience when they can't prove in advance that something can go wrong?

What are the Tea Party imbecilles asking?

Can't have experince before it exists

Do people need experience?

You come off like a social conservative that expects people to respect their elders and suffer through trial and error while laughing at idealists who think before they act.

 

[Steven_R]

I know two things:

1) Obamacare is so convoluted and complicated that even the insurance industry doesn't understand it.

2) All those wonderful government fix-it programs and laws like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have all ended up as expensive bureaucratic nightmares that just keep making things worse.

So why is Obamacare going to be any different?

 

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[MENTION=23262]peach174[/MENTION]

Huge Gaping Puss-filled Hole in Tea Party Argument on Obamacare/PPACA

Argument: Americans need to know how the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, will work before it is implemented.

Hello?

How the heck could anyone know how anything like that would work b-e-f-o-r-e it is enacted? The disingenuousness of such an argument is totally out of right field. Only others living in a self-contained bubble could hear that and believe it makes any sense or deals with the real world.

Doesn't anyone who plays board games have to know the rules before they play it?
No one knows the rules or even the details to the New Health Care Act.

Ever see a board game being developed? Things get tweaked. The rules of any government program as big as the PPACA, will have to be tweaked as it is rolled out..

Plus the Tea Party imbecilles aren't asking about rules, they are trying to kill a law without even know exactly what it will do...they are being dishonest in their arguments and in the end, they will ruin what is left of the GOP brand.

 

[Steven_R]

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe the rules should have been tweaked before building this law behind closed doors and jamming this thing down the American throat without any debate.

When even the insurance and medical communities are saying "we don't have a clue what any of this means" and government is threatening to go after companies for noncompliance when those same agencies don't know how compliance is possible, the law Is a bad law. It doesn't need tweaked, it doesn't need revamped, it doesn't need adjusting. It need to be scraped and started over.

Plus the Tea Party imbecilles aren't asking about rules, they are trying to kill a law without even know exactly what it will do...they are being dishonest in their arguments and in the end, they will ruin what is left of the GOP brand.

Which should be a good thing to the Dems. Who needs the headache of a two party system. Let the GOP die and then we'll get that utopia we've been aiming for.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I know two things:

1) Obamacare is so convoluted and complicated that even the insurance industry doesn't understand it.

2) All those wonderful government fix-it programs and laws like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have all ended up as expensive bureaucratic nightmares that just keep making things worse.

So why is Obamacare going to be any different?

Not surprisingly, you're wrong on both counts.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Huge Gaping Puss-filled Hole in Tea Party Argument on Obamacare/PPACA

Argument: Americans need to know how the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, will work before it is implemented.

Hello?

How the heck could anyone know how anything like that would work b-e-f-o-r-e it is enacted? The disingenuousness of such an argument is totally out of right field. Only others living in a self-contained bubble could hear that and believe it makes any sense or deals with the real world.

Doesn't anyone who plays board games have to know the rules before they play it?
No one knows the rules or even the details to the New Health Care Act.

You're comparing ObamaCare to a board game?

No wonder the rw's don't understand it.

 

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[MENTION=43028]Daktoria[/MENTION]

Are you saying people are obligated to learn from experience when they can't prove in advance that something can go wrong?

What are the Tea Party imbecilles asking?

Can't have experince before it exists

Do people need experience?

You come off like a social conservative that expects people to respect their elders and suffer through trial and error while laughing at idealists who think before they act.

What in the world are you yapping about? Idealists dream. The PPACA is the law of the land and the wingnut cons cry because there were no GOP votes for it. So the fuck what? Since when was any US law only credible with bipartisan support?

The PPACA passed two houses of Congress. It was signed into law by the President. It even withstood Court challenges...

Move On, is more than just a dot org.

 

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I know two things:

1) Obamacare is so convoluted and complicated that even the insurance industry doesn't understand it.

2) All those wonderful government fix-it programs and laws like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have all ended up as expensive bureaucratic nightmares that just keep making things worse.

So why is Obamacare going to be any different?

The insurance industry helped write it. Wake up you idiot! Stop regurgitating shit you hear

 

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Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe the rules should have been tweaked before building this law behind closed doors and jamming this thing down the American throat without any debate.

When even the insurance and medical communities are saying "we don't have a clue what any of this means" and government is threatening to go after companies for noncompliance when those same agencies don't know how compliance is possible, the law Is a bad law. It doesn't need tweaked, it doesn't need revamped, it doesn't need adjusting. It need to be scraped and started over.

Plus the Tea Party imbecilles aren't asking about rules, they are trying to kill a law without even know exactly what it will do...they are being dishonest in their arguments and in the end, they will ruin what is left of the GOP brand.

Which should be a good thing to the Dems. Who needs the headache of a two party system. Let the GOP die and then we'll get that utopia we've been aiming for.

Nothing was jammed down the throat of the piblic. Congress passed the PPACA and it was signed into law by the President, survived a Supreme Court challenge (a conservative court no less), and the President was re-elected...re-elected after all of this.

STFU

 

[Steven_R]

I know two things:

1) Obamacare is so convoluted and complicated that even the insurance industry doesn't understand it.

2) All those wonderful government fix-it programs and laws like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have all ended up as expensive bureaucratic nightmares that just keep making things worse.

So why is Obamacare going to be any different?

The insurance industry helped write it. Wake up you idiot! Stop regurgitating shit you hear

I work in the executive end of healthcare. Nobody knows how this thing works. Not government, not insurance, not healthcare. The insurance industry might have helped to draft it, but it got changed along the way and the insurance industry got burned. The experts are scratching their heads when it comes to both the short-term and long term effects of Obamacare. Get a job in healthcare if you don't believe it and see it firsthand. Stop getting your talking points from the DNC.

 

[Sarah G]

That's the teaparty for you. a Gaping Puss-filled Hole!

 

[Stephanie]

are the left programmed robots or what?

their elected douchebags masters (dirty harry reid) come out and blame the Tea Party for opposing them and now they are the BIG BAD MONSTERS...I've never seen this much pathetic whine and goose stepping to these people in the Federal government

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Huge Gaping Puss-filled Hole in Tea Party Argument on Obamacare/PPACA

It is about time they got you out of that thing.

 

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are the left programmed robots or what?

their elected douchebags masters (dirty harry reid) come out and blame the Tea Party for opposing them and now they are the BIG BAD MONSTERS...I've never seen this much pathetic whine and goose stepping to these people in the Federal government

Then you haven't been reading your own posts.

 

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I know two things:

1) Obamacare is so convoluted and complicated that even the insurance industry doesn't understand it.

2) All those wonderful government fix-it programs and laws like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have all ended up as expensive bureaucratic nightmares that just keep making things worse.

So why is Obamacare going to be any different?

The insurance industry helped write it. Wake up you idiot! Stop regurgitating shit you hear

I work in the executive end of healthcare. Nobody knows how this thing works. Not government, not insurance, not healthcare. The insurance industry might have helped to draft it, but it got changed along the way and the insurance industry got burned. The experts are scratching their heads when it comes to both the short-term and long term effects of Obamacare. Get a job in healthcare if you don't believe it and see it firsthand. Stop getting your talking points from the DNC.

Jesus Christ, no one knew how the new Constitution woulld work, no one knew how Social Security or Medicare or the VA or any other large gov program would be like

Historyvis full of naysayers like you

Pfft!