Huge Advance In Education!

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Making any generalization about home schooling is a stretch. Obviously.

The experience can be much, much better than public schools (which are also all over the lot), or much, much worse.

The only rational approach to home schooling is to demand, and verify, certain basics.

Here in NYC, we home schoolers need to file an educational plan each year, and our students take the very same evaluation exams that government school students take.

The results are that home school students out perform government school students by every metric.

Yeah, you are comparing a fresh apple against one that the hogs have chewing and trodding on for months.

You must be a Democrats.....you follow orders so quickly.


Now keep posting!! Bet you've convinced another dozen or two to home school.

I am a registered Republican since the day I turned 18. I can't stand conservatards like you, so full of themselves that they can't stand to possibly be accused of being full of shit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Hilarious! Unfortunately, CORVID-19 has proven just the opposite to be true. Some parents who had considered homeschooling now see just how hard it really is!

I'd like to see you post much more frequently.....that would tip the balance for parents in favor of home schooling.

Begin immediately!!!

You appear to be a pseudo intellectual, and could not teach a monkey to climb a tree. Parents who attempt and fail at homeschooling will curse your name. Keep up your embarrassment.

I have three grandchildren and all of them have been homeschooled at one time or another, so don't think I am against homeschooling under all circumstances. My daughter and daughter-in-law are both college educated and are excellent teachers, plus grandpa is but phone call away at a moment's notice.

What drives me crazy are the arrogant assholes who claim that it is so easy and we should eliminate public schools. These people need their heads examined.

"You appear to be a pseudo intellectual, and could not teach a monkey to climb a tree."

You're complaining because I can't teach you to climb a tree???


Why?


Don't visitors toss you enough peanuts?????

I see you have abandoned rational discussion. So typical of a conservatard. Libtards have taught you well.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Making any generalization about home schooling is a stretch. Obviously.

The experience can be much, much better than public schools (which are also all over the lot), or much, much worse.

The only rational approach to home schooling is to demand, and verify, certain basics.

Here in NYC, we home schoolers need to file an educational plan each year, and our students take the very same evaluation exams that government school students take.

The results are that home school students out perform government school students by every metric.

Yeah, you are comparing a fresh apple against one that the hogs have chewing and trodding on for months.

You must be a Democrats.....you follow orders so quickly.


Now keep posting!! Bet you've convinced another dozen or two to home school.

I am a registered Republican since the day I turned 18. I can't stand conservatards like you, so full of themselves that they can't stand to possibly be accused of being full of shit.

I don't use language like that, for two reason.
Unlike you, I am articulate.
And, unlike you, I'm never wrong, so I don't have to default to the juvenile emotional reaction.


Getting an education might....might......help you overcome those problems.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Making any generalization about home schooling is a stretch. Obviously.

The experience can be much, much better than public schools (which are also all over the lot), or much, much worse.

The only rational approach to home schooling is to demand, and verify, certain basics.

Here in NYC, we home schoolers need to file an educational plan each year, and our students take the very same evaluation exams that government school students take.

The results are that home school students out perform government school students by every metric.

Yeah, you are comparing a fresh apple against one that the hogs have chewing and trodding on for months.

You must be a Democrats.....you follow orders so quickly.


Now keep posting!! Bet you've convinced another dozen or two to home school.

I am a registered Republican since the day I turned 18. I can't stand conservatards like you, so full of themselves that they can't stand to possibly be accused of being full of shit.

I don't use language like that, for two reason.
Unlike you, I am articulate.
And, unlike you, I'm never wrong, so I don't have to default to the juvenile emotional reaction.


Getting an education might....might......help you overcome those problems.

It is called "speaking to the level of the audience". If you don't want to be accused of being "full of shit", don't post that way.

I note your deflection is always at the ready when you cannot respond intelligently. That means you are "full of shit".

The more posts you offer, the more folks will be able to see the low level that the teaching profession has fallen to.


Now....write soon, y'hear!!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Making any generalization about home schooling is a stretch. Obviously.

The experience can be much, much better than public schools (which are also all over the lot), or much, much worse.

The only rational approach to home schooling is to demand, and verify, certain basics.

Here in NYC, we home schoolers need to file an educational plan each year, and our students take the very same evaluation exams that government school students take.

The results are that home school students out perform government school students by every metric.

Yeah, you are comparing a fresh apple against one that the hogs have chewing and trodding on for months.

You must be a Democrats.....you follow orders so quickly.


Now keep posting!! Bet you've convinced another dozen or two to home school.

I am a registered Republican since the day I turned 18. I can't stand conservatards like you, so full of themselves that they can't stand to possibly be accused of being full of shit.

I don't use language like that, for two reason.
Unlike you, I am articulate.
And, unlike you, I'm never wrong, so I don't have to default to the juvenile emotional reaction.


Getting an education might....might......help you overcome those problems.

It is called "speaking to the level of the audience". If you don't want to be accused of being "full of shit", don't post that way.

I note your deflection is always at the ready when you cannot respond intelligently. That means you are "full of shit".

The more posts you offer, the more folks will be able to see the low level that the teaching profession has fallen to.


Now....write soon, y'hear!!

Your pathetic insults are weak and not very imaginative. I would be happy to engage you on a professional level as soon as you get the motivation to actually converse with facts vice propaganda learned at the foot of your talk radio elders.

 

[ChemEngineer]

And, right wing propaganda is just as silly and stupid as left wing hackery is; we can see that every day here on this board, so both extremes need to be avoided. Right wing sociopaths are just as fond of faggots, mindless self-indulgence, evolution nonsense, and doper cults as left wingers are, so be careful what you wish for.

Your attempt at equivalence is, in your own words, "silly and stupid."

Former UC Berkeley math professor, Theodore Kaczynski, killed people with his package bombs.
He was a huge fan of Al Gore and had a well-worn copy of Earth in the Balance in his rathole cabin.

Former Colorado professor said "Everyone who died on 9/11 were a bunch of little Eichmanns."
He claimed to be American Indian,you know, like Leftist Elizabeth Warren.

I could cite silly and stupid things said and done by Leftists in academia for pages. I challenge you to provide just a few silly and stupid things said and done by any Conservative in academia. There aren't very many of them. Conservatives are ostracized by the Leftist Comrades in academia.

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman, Nobel Laureate

November, 2017 A YouGov survey found that more millenials would rather live in a socialist (44%) or communist (7%) country than a capitalist one (42%). America and our once cherished ideals are doomed.

“In 1950, we spent (in 1989 dollars) $1,333 per student. In 1989 we spent $4931. As John Silber, the President of Boston University, has written, ‘It is troubling that this nearly fourfold increase in real spending has brought no improvement. It is scandalous that it has not prevented substantial decline.’ ” – William J. Bennett, former Secretary of Education, in The De-Valuing of America

“Yet universities are becoming laughing stocks of intolerance….” -Stephen Pinker, liberal and atheist professor, Harvard University

The sixth-grade textbooks of today are much less challenging than those of a few decades ago…” – Carl Sagan, Demon Haunted World, page 362

It has been said that we have not had the three R’s in America, we had the six R’s; remedial readin’, remedial ‘ritin’ and remedial ‘rithmetic. – Robert Maynard Hutchins (also Maynard Hutchins) (1899–1977) educational philosopher, dean of Yale Law School (1927-1929), a president of the University of Chicago (1929–1945) and its chancellor (1945–1951).


Education is one of the few things a person is willing to pay for and not get. – William Lowe Bryan (1860–1955) 10th president of Indiana University (1902 to 1937).

 

[ChemEngineer]

The more posts you offer (Admiral Rockwell), the more folks will be able to see the low level that the teaching profession has fallen to.


Now....write soon, y'hear!!

The average teacher graduated in the bottom third of their class, according to professor Walter Williams, at George Mason University.

He also states that the college major with the lowest average SAT score is sociology, followed closely by..... wait for it...... wait for it......... education.

I would have guessed art or physical education but you can't make these things up.

Now for the good part. After completing a B.A., students take a test for graduate school. I took the exam for a graduate study in business. I forget the acronym. But I scored in the top 5% who took it.
Sociology and education majors take something like the GRE and of those scores, sociology majors and education majors.... wait for it.... wait for it..... switch last places!!!! (According to Professor Williams)

GO TEECHERS! GO SUCKIOLOGISTS!

 

[ChemEngineer]

The test was the ATGSB, Admission Test for Graduate Study in Business. Easy peasy for a chemical engineering graduate.

 

[Jitss617]

I have said that unless we wrest control of education back from the Democrat/Liberal government schools, as earlier Republicans pried their slaves away from them, the nation has no future.

But....I couldn't see any possible way to do this........


BUT......
"Coronavirus has parents looking at homeschooling

With the COVID-19 virus closing schools in China, South Korea, Italy, and the United States, parents are having to make a sudden and unexpected change in their children’s education. Most often, it means shifting education into the home.


This learning at home looks different in different places. In Hong Kong, the government ordered 800,000 students to take what the Wall Street Journal calls “a crash course in digital learning.”

In New York City, parents are already seeking out homeschooling resources that fit their children and their families in preparation for any school closings.

The freedom of parents to choose the kind of education that’s best for each child is something we’ve been advocating for more than 35 years.

Homeschool grads go to college, join the military, launch their own businesses, and start families. They serve in soup kitchens, run for office, fight fires, and give back to their communities in many other ways.

In fact, more than 1.7 million students are homeschooling in the U.S., according to the National Center for Education Statistics.If both parents are working, it is still possible to make homeschooling work through options such as alternating work schedules or one parent working from home. It takes creativity, commitment, and even saying, “No,” to some opportunities. But without the restriction of a traditional school-day schedule, families are able to carve out time together and even flex their homeschool schedule along with variable work schedules (such as healthcare providers or cross-country transport)."
Coronavirus has parents looking at homeschooling

For the LOVE OF GOD KEEP DEMOCRATS AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The more posts you offer (Admiral Rockwell), the more folks will be able to see the low level that the teaching profession has fallen to.


Now....write soon, y'hear!!

The average teacher graduated in the bottom third of their class, according to professor Walter Williams, at George Mason University.

He also states that the college major with the lowest average SAT score is sociology, followed closely by..... wait for it...... wait for it......... education.

I would have guessed art or physical education but you can't make these things up.

Now for the good part. After completing a B.A., students take a test for graduate school. I took the exam for a graduate study in business. I forget the acronym. But I scored in the top 5% who took it.
Sociology and education majors take something like the GRE and of those scores, sociology majors and education majors.... wait for it.... wait for it..... switch last places!!!! (According to Professor Williams)

GO TEECHERS! GO SUCKIOLOGISTS!

As has been pointed out many times, teachers usually have a dual degree. I had a degree in teaching from 1984. I had to go back to get the education courses in 1998 and finish my math coursework. I was certified to teach math and history after passing a 3 hour exam and then received my Master's in 2003. I had to pass a 6-hour exam to be certified as a principal.

Check the starting pay for those fields and you will find only social workers receiving less.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have said that unless we wrest control of education back from the Democrat/Liberal government schools, as earlier Republicans pried their slaves away from them, the nation has no future.

But....I couldn't see any possible way to do this........


BUT......
"Coronavirus has parents looking at homeschooling

With the COVID-19 virus closing schools in China, South Korea, Italy, and the United States, parents are having to make a sudden and unexpected change in their children’s education. Most often, it means shifting education into the home.


This learning at home looks different in different places. In Hong Kong, the government ordered 800,000 students to take what the Wall Street Journal calls “a crash course in digital learning.”

In New York City, parents are already seeking out homeschooling resources that fit their children and their families in preparation for any school closings.

The freedom of parents to choose the kind of education that’s best for each child is something we’ve been advocating for more than 35 years.

Homeschool grads go to college, join the military, launch their own businesses, and start families. They serve in soup kitchens, run for office, fight fires, and give back to their communities in many other ways.

In fact, more than 1.7 million students are homeschooling in the U.S., according to the National Center for Education Statistics.If both parents are working, it is still possible to make homeschooling work through options such as alternating work schedules or one parent working from home. It takes creativity, commitment, and even saying, “No,” to some opportunities. But without the restriction of a traditional school-day schedule, families are able to carve out time together and even flex their homeschool schedule along with variable work schedules (such as healthcare providers or cross-country transport)."
Coronavirus has parents looking at homeschooling

For the LOVE OF GOD KEEP DEMOCRATS AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN!

This is what passes for education in government school:

1. "Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal A third-grade teacher at a public school in New Jersey is under fire after she encouraged her students to write letters to notorious convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who recently fell ill in prison.

Marylin Zuniga teaches language arts and social studies at Forest Street School in Orange, N.J."

Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal



2. - School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists


"School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists
The teacher also told Sommer that her son was not supposed to take the Nation of Islam handout home. It was supposed to stay in the classroom. That bit of news caused her great alarm.
“The fact that students were cautioned against allowing their parents to see anything is deeply troubling,” West told me. “The only reasonable explanation is they don’t want parents to know what it is their children are learning.”

3. Under pressure from transgender activists, progressive politicians, teacher unions, and the education establishment, and despite parents’ opposition, America’s public schools are capitulating to ideologues and implementing the radical transgender agenda with full force.
...regardless of biological sex, .... Activists want every child, from kindergarten on, to learn that “sex” is something “assigned at birth” rather than a biological reality. They want children to think that individuals get to choose their own “gender identity” (not limited to male or female), and that everyone else must affirm that “gender identity” as true.


...nothing that parents (or teachers) can do to prevent the schools from imposing policies designed to indoctrinate children with gender ideology.

In public education, the “deep state” describes a coalition of various groups – including teachers’ unions, progressive advocacy groups, major corporations, and philanthropists --that work together to promote the progressive worldview..."
America’s Public Education System: The Ultimate Deep State



We're a home school family.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have said that unless we wrest control of education back from the Democrat/Liberal government schools, as earlier Republicans pried their slaves away from them, the nation has no future.

But....I couldn't see any possible way to do this........


BUT......
"Coronavirus has parents looking at homeschooling

With the COVID-19 virus closing schools in China, South Korea, Italy, and the United States, parents are having to make a sudden and unexpected change in their children’s education. Most often, it means shifting education into the home.


This learning at home looks different in different places. In Hong Kong, the government ordered 800,000 students to take what the Wall Street Journal calls “a crash course in digital learning.”

In New York City, parents are already seeking out homeschooling resources that fit their children and their families in preparation for any school closings.

The freedom of parents to choose the kind of education that’s best for each child is something we’ve been advocating for more than 35 years.

Homeschool grads go to college, join the military, launch their own businesses, and start families. They serve in soup kitchens, run for office, fight fires, and give back to their communities in many other ways.

In fact, more than 1.7 million students are homeschooling in the U.S., according to the National Center for Education Statistics.If both parents are working, it is still possible to make homeschooling work through options such as alternating work schedules or one parent working from home. It takes creativity, commitment, and even saying, “No,” to some opportunities. But without the restriction of a traditional school-day schedule, families are able to carve out time together and even flex their homeschool schedule along with variable work schedules (such as healthcare providers or cross-country transport)."
Coronavirus has parents looking at homeschooling

For the LOVE OF GOD KEEP DEMOCRATS AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN!

This is what passes for education in government school:

1. "Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal A third-grade teacher at a public school in New Jersey is under fire after she encouraged her students to write letters to notorious convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who recently fell ill in prison.

Marylin Zuniga teaches language arts and social studies at Forest Street School in Orange, N.J."

Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal



2. - School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists


"School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists
The teacher also told Sommer that her son was not supposed to take the Nation of Islam handout home. It was supposed to stay in the classroom. That bit of news caused her great alarm.
“The fact that students were cautioned against allowing their parents to see anything is deeply troubling,” West told me. “The only reasonable explanation is they don’t want parents to know what it is their children are learning.”

3. Under pressure from transgender activists, progressive politicians, teacher unions, and the education establishment, and despite parents’ opposition, America’s public schools are capitulating to ideologues and implementing the radical transgender agenda with full force.
...regardless of biological sex, .... Activists want every child, from kindergarten on, to learn that “sex” is something “assigned at birth” rather than a biological reality. They want children to think that individuals get to choose their own “gender identity” (not limited to male or female), and that everyone else must affirm that “gender identity” as true.


...nothing that parents (or teachers) can do to prevent the schools from imposing policies designed to indoctrinate children with gender ideology.

In public education, the “deep state” describes a coalition of various groups – including teachers’ unions, progressive advocacy groups, major corporations, and philanthropists --that work together to promote the progressive worldview..."
America’s Public Education System: The Ultimate Deep State



We're a home school family.

Typical liberal states, weren't they? Not typical.

Feel free to raise your conspiracy theorists in your own image.

 

[ChemEngineer]

As has been pointed out many times, teachers usually have a dual degree.

Check the starting pay for those fields and you will find only social workers receiving less.

Dual degree. So what? You may be the best teacher in California, but we're talking about averages.
MONEY! It's always about money. We want more. MORE MORE MORE.
For fifty years, more money has resulted in worse educational achievement. But this time we'll turn things around you betcha. See attached graph. Per pupil spending, adjusted for inflation: nothing but up. Student achievement: down, not even flat. Teacher conclusion: "MORE MONEY"!

Moreover, hypocrite public school teachers send their own children to private schools at a higher rate than the general public.
Hypocrite Gores and Clintons and Obamas sent their privileged children to Sidwell Friends School, all the while proselytizing about the virtues of public schools, for everyone else.
Democrats are like that. Hypocrites from the get go.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Parents are really shocked and outraged at common core. They are finding out that their children cannot write, do simple arithmetic or read more than haltingly.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Parents are really shocked and outraged at common core. They are finding out that their children cannot write, do simple arithmetic or read more than haltingly.

Parents are shocked that Common Core went away during the last part of the Obama administration. The fact they haven't kept up is the problem.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As has been pointed out many times, teachers usually have a dual degree.

Check the starting pay for those fields and you will find only social workers receiving less.

Dual degree. So what? You may be the best teacher in California, but we're talking about averages.
MONEY! It's always about money. We want more. MORE MORE MORE.
For fifty years, more money has resulted in worse educational achievement. But this time we'll turn things around you betcha. See attached graph. Per pupil spending, adjusted for inflation: nothing but up. Student achievement: down, not even flat. Teacher conclusion: "MORE MONEY"!

Moreover, hypocrite public school teachers send their own children to private schools at a higher rate than the general public.
Hypocrite Gores and Clintons and Obamas sent their privileged children to Sidwell Friends School, all the while proselytizing about the virtues of public schools, for everyone else.
Democrats are like that. Hypocrites from the get go.

Laptops, networks, lab equipment, textbooks, etc. - none of that cost any more today than they did before they were invented.

My daughter finished her biology degree 4 years ago and her education was far superior to either mine, or my wife's.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is some reason why children cannot write their own names nor do basic arithmetic. Why can't high school graduates read at a 3rd grade level?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is some reason why children cannot write their own names nor do basic arithmetic. Why can't high school graduates read at a 3rd grade level?

Where did you get this stupid idea? Dp you have an overactive imagination?

 

[Unkotare]

Leftist social and political poison has been enervating the Republic in a myriad of ways for many decades. Lazy, myopic people see only the most recent consequences and imagine it can be easily and simply encapsulated in some imagined "indoctrination" in public schools. Just as a homeless, hungry, abused, addicted, or otherwise traumatized student will have a very hard time learning, the real problem is much larger and deeper than a "Publik Skuls Suks!" bumper-sticker mentality. The first step in solving a problem is realizing what it actually is.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is some reason why children cannot write their own names nor do basic arithmetic. Why can't high school graduates read at a 3rd grade level?

Where did you get this stupid idea? Dp you have an overactive imagination?

Talking to high school graduates. I was being kind to the graduates. Most cannot read at all. California lost a lawsuit because graduates can't read. This isn't an isolated instance.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/02/23/california-students-who-sued-state-because-they-cant-read-just-won-53-million-troubled-schools/%3foutputType=amp