How to save inner city schools.

You're a study hall monitor who used to post prolifically DURING THE SCHOOL DAY
It never ceases to amaze me the self righteousness and smugness of some of these people and no, I'm not pointing fingers at any specific one here.

It becomes really tedious to be accused of lying when I am telling it exactly as it is. I'm sure the inner city teacher trying to teach gang bangers or kids from that kind of environment has an entirely different experience than I have had, but that doesn't mean my experience isn't real or just as valid. I'm sure the person dealing with the mentally challenged has a much different experience than I have had dealing with kids from the average American neighborhood these days. What will be most important to that person will likely be somewhat different than for someone like me.

I was working with a group of young boys once--mostly eighth and ninth graders--and was horrified to find that nine of the eleven were on Ritalin. They all hated taking in and dreaded when the time came they would have to take it. I'm sure when I was in school, when my kids were in school, ADHD existed, but we were blissfully unaware of it. Based on my deportment scores, I was probably one of them. :)

But when did it become popular to drug kids into submission instead of helping them conduct themselves in acceptable manner? It it really necessary? I am unaware of any of my classmates who were. I am unaware of any of my children's classmates who were. Or is this a whole new thing that kids (and teachers) never had to deal with before?

Meanwhile, I would like for there to be more appreciation for how not all of us are having the same experience even though we are doing much of the same things.
 
The urban areas pay more and produce less per student than the suburbs
This is true. The DC school system invests substantially more per student than nearby Fairfax County, VA, yet the grades and scores of the former are significantly worse.

Money doesn’t solve problems when parents, most of whom are unmarried and on public assistance, don’t emphasize the value of education.
 
This is true. The DC school system invests substantially more per student than nearby Fairfax County, VA, yet the grades and scores of the former are significantly worse.

Money doesn’t solve problems when parents, most of whom are unmarried and on public assistance, don’t emphasize the value of education.
My parents didn't give a damn how we did in school, in fact never saw our report cards. However, my brother was on the Honor Roll or High Honor Roll most of the time. Not because he had an interest in the subjects but because he was just determined to see his name on the board. I made Honorable Mention once, that's as good as I got. My sister fared about the same.
 
Your first response is mostly true in the inner-city school where I taught. The second part about vouchers does not work. You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit!

Yes, I went to public school and taught in them for over 20 years.
Illiterates Becoming Academic Lettermen

This graduate-everybody policy is like a university getting millions for its football program and spending it all on having every student playing intramurals.

In fact, the athletic talent "elitism" makes sure that only a small percentage is allowed on the high school team and a far tinier percentage plays in college. Likewise, education shouldn't be wasted on those who can't make the cut at the various levels, starting in fourth grade. We should get rid of the over-restrictive child-labor laws, too.
 
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They just have to spend the money on the motivated kids.
Earn While You Learn Is the Only Education That Works

How about paying the best students? The worst students will have to go to class on Saturday, and the best students from four grades older will be paid to teach them then.
 
There were a lot of Hispanics in the program. Try it some time its not so easy. The tactics change by the second, you have to creative, forward thinking, have a lot of stamina, and run for 45 minutes
Birth-Class Supremacy Sport

It's a game intentionally designed for peasants. They can't use their arms; headers are symbolic of being brainwashed from birth that they are inferior.

A peasant's life is one dreary struggle, punctuated by rare moments of excitement. Thus the low scores.
 
Earn While You Learn Is the Only Education That Works

How about paying the best students? The worst students will have to go to class on Saturday, and the best students from four grades older will be paid to teach them then.
I'm all for students mentoring other students until everyone gets it.
 
In most cases the shooter was bullied, ostracized, or ignored by classmates. This can really screw a kid up especially if home life is also bad.
Believe in Bullying

If kids harass weirdos enough, they won't hate society. They will hate themselves and either change themselves or drop out. As usual, we're being given simple-minded quick answers by self-appointed mentors.
 
Illiterates Becoming Academic Lettermen

This graduate-everybody policy is like a university getting millions for its football program and spending it all on having every student playing intramurals.

In fact, the athletic talent "elitism" makes sure that only a small percentage is allowed on the high school team and a far tinier percentage plays in college. Likewise, education shouldn't be wasted on those who can't make the cut at the various levels, starting in fourth grade. We should get rid of the over-restrictive child-labor laws, too.
Get a new idea, broken record! Every ******* time, the same ******* thing over and over.
 
Believe in Bullying

If kids harass weirdos enough, they won't hate society. They will hate themselves and either change themselves or drop out. As usual, we're being given simple-minded quick answers by self-appointed mentors.
I am guessing you spent most of your wasted school years with your head stuck in a toilet.
 


Great study on school killers. I met Dr Langman when I was in graduate school. He did intensive studies of many cases and they were all mentally ill and fell into the 3 diagnosis
The Gutted Become Gutless

Did he suggest that the weirdo misfits be bullied more? Emotionless professors don't understand that hatred is part of the Survival Instinct. They are also afraid to act naturally; they treat disgusting and dangerous freaks as inanimate objects. Their "feels" are all fruitless efforts to pretend to be human.
 
The Gutted Become Gutless

Did he suggest that the weirdo misfits be bullied more? Emotionless professors don't understand that hatred is part of the Survival Instinct. They are also afraid to act naturally; they treat disgusting and dangerous freaks as inanimate objects. Their "feels" are all fruitless efforts to pretend to be human.
You don’t even bother to pretend.
 
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The Gutted Become Gutless

Did he suggest that the weirdo misfits be bullied more? Emotionless professors don't understand that hatred is part of the Survival Instinct. They are also afraid to act naturally; they treat disgusting and dangerous freaks as inanimate objects. Their "feels" are all fruitless efforts to pretend to be human.
Langman who I met in graduate school did a very thorough analysis of many of the most well know mass killers. The most interesting is Eric Harris and Dylan Klybold. There were multiple personality disorders involved. Being bullied isnt a significant factor. Some may have been mut most are very aggressive and cant be picked on.
 
Results From Grade 4
Reading
In the first set of analyses, all private schools were
compared to all public schools. The average private
school mean reading score was 14.7 points higher
than the average public school mean reading score,
corresponding to an effect size of .41 (the ratio of the
absolute value of the estimated difference to the stan-
dard deviation of the NAEP fourth-grade reading score
distribution). After adjusting for selected student char-
acteristics, the difference in means was near zero and
not significant. In the second set of analyses, Catholic
schools and Lutheran schools were each compared to
all public schools. The results, both with and without
adjustments, were similar to the corresponding results
for all private schools.
 
Believe in Bullying

If kids harass weirdos enough, they won't hate society. They will hate themselves and either change themselves or drop out. As usual, we're being given simple-minded quick answers by self-appointed mentors.
Sometimes simple answers are accurate.
 
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