How this situation could send Flynn to prison.

[miketx]

So, like I knew, just another lying gutless puke with nothing but a hole in his face.

 

[rat pack]

You were just reported for plagiarism by not attributing a source and Flynn isn't a "foreign national". This is what happens when you're talking out your ass, boy. And if you believe a FISA warrant is no longer required to tap a DNI phone line, you should resign and get your Walmart job back.

They weren't tapping the DNI's phone line. They were tapping the Russian embassys phone line, And believe it or not, Russians are considered foreigners,

 

[rat pack]

You were just reported for plagiarism by not attributing a source

One paragraph out of several dozen falls within "fair use" for educational or private non-commercial purposes.

 

[Tom Horn]

You were just reported for plagiarism by not attributing a source

One paragraph out of several dozen falls within "fair use" for educational or private non-commercial purposes.

A verbatim theft unsourced.... and that's not allowed here.....you're toast if a mod decides to hit the ejection-button.

 

[miketx]

You were just reported for plagiarism by not attributing a source

One paragraph out of several dozen falls within "fair use" for educational or private non-commercial purposes.

Defending lies is the dim proof of truth!

 

[Tom Horn]

They weren't tapping the DNI's phone line. They were tapping the Russian embassys phone line, And believe it or not, Russians are considered foreigners,

Wrong again....that was an FBI tap, not NSA....but what hell, you haven't gotten anything right yet, so "at this time what possible difference does it make?" to quote your psychotic heroine.

 

[rat pack]

A verbatim theft unsourced.... and that's not allowed here.....you're toast if a mod decides to hit the ejection-button.

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization.

 

[Tom Horn]

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization.

Damn, your handler didn't teach you much about how to handle a stressful encounter did they? You're at USMB, not wikipedia.....maybe you should shut off the McIntosh and have yourself a nice long cry.

 

[rat pack]

Wrong again....that was an FBI tap, not NSA....but what hell, you haven't gotten anything right yet, so "at this time what possible difference does it make?" to quote your psychotic heroine.

Intel Agencies Probing Contact Between Gen. Flynn, Russia For 5 Months

Jennifer Griffin reported last Fall that an interagency task force comprised of officials from the FBI, CIA, National Security Administration and the Treasury Department has been looking into Flynn's communications.

 

[rat pack]

Damn, your handler didn't teach you much about how to handle a stressful encounter did they? You're at USMB, not wikipedia.....maybe you should shut off the McIntosh and have yourself a nice long cry.

The "plagiarism" ruie as you call it, is for copyright exception under the "fair use" clause. If the source gives full permission to "fair use" an attribution isn't necessary to form the basis for the exception.

 

[Tom Horn]

The "plagiarism" ruie as you call it, is for copyright exception under the "fair use" clause. If the source gives full permission to "fair use" an attribution isn't necessary to form the basis for the exception.

Look down...that's your guts hanging out because you've been eviscerated....this is a big boy board so maybe Soros should send you someplace where your lame-ass game plays.

 

[rat pack]

The "plagiarism" ruie as you call it, is for copyright exception under the "fair use" clause. If the source gives full permission to "fair use" an attribution isn't necessary to form the basis for the exception.

Look down...that's your guts hanging out because you've been eviscerated....this is a big boy board so maybe Soros should send you someplace where your lame-ass game plays.

Fair use - Wikipedia

In June 2011, Judge Philip Pro of the District of Nevada ruled in Righthaven v. Hoehn that the posting of an entire editorial article from the Las Vegas Review Journal in a comment as part of an online discussion was unarguably fair use. Judge Pro noted that "Noncommercial, nonprofit use is presumptively fair. ... Hoehn posted the Work as part of an online discussion. ... This purpose is consistent with comment, for which 17 U.S.C. § 107 provides fair use protection. ... It is undisputed that Hoehn posted the entire work in his comment on the Website. … wholesale copying does not preclude a finding of fair use. ... there is no genuine issue of material fact that Hoehn’s use of the Work was fair and summary judgment is appropriate.

 

[rat pack]

Instead of crying "fake news" try crying "fair use"

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Flynn isn't going to prison.

 

[rat pack]

Flynn isn't going to prison.

Tons of GOP also said that Flynn was going to be Trumps national security advisor for four more years. Get used to hearing: What did the president know, and when did he know it?

 

[easyt65]

The FBI reportedly did not have a Warrant required to tap Flynn's phone, meaning someone in the FBI should be more in danger f going to Prison than Flynn.

Several Congressional sources (link provided in another thread) have already stated that the Russians asked Flynn about the Sanctions and Flynn responded - adding there is nothing illegal or improper with the way the conversation went or what was said.

 

[rat pack]

The FBI reportedly did not have a Warrant required to tap Flynn's phone, meaning someone in the FBI should be more in danger f going to Prison than Flynn.

Wire intercepts of foreign national in coversations with US citizens is legal under FISA. Exampled by anyone talking to a known foreign terrorist, whose phone calls are being recorded, will invariably be recorded, even if they are a US citizen.

 

[rat pack]

You were just reported for plagiarism by not attributing a source

 

[Care4all]

The Russians were recorded talking to Flynn. Not unusual when a hostile foreign country is talking to it's agents inside the country.

We pretty much know that Flynn told Russia that if Trump is elected, the sanctions will go away so don't take any action.

Later, Flynn was interviewed by the FBI.

If what Flynn told the FBI in that interview was very different than what he said in the transcripts, that would be lying to the FBI. That's a felony. Flynn could see jail time.

But what if it was Trump that told him to tell the Russians to keep calm? That Trump will end the sanctions after the election if he wins? Then Trump really has a problem that neither the GOP nor Russia can help him out of.

It's clear you aren't much for rational thought or logic.
You base all of your beliefs off of pure conjecture from media reports.
If transcripts of the conversation surface then we might have something. But basically the media is telling us something was discussed without providing any context, and this is on purpose....because the context could be exculpatory in nature. i.e. Flynn wasn’t the one that mentioned sanctions. The Russian ambassador did.
The more that's known about classified conversations the weaker your case becomes.

BTW, what would be the crime Flynn would be imprisoned under, talking to foreigners on the telephone? Guess we'd have lock half of the California for that one....

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

Logan Act - Wikipedia

 

[mudwhistle]

The Russians were recorded talking to Flynn. Not unusual when a hostile foreign country is talking to it's agents inside the country.

We pretty much know that Flynn told Russia that if Trump is elected, the sanctions will go away so don't take any action.

Later, Flynn was interviewed by the FBI.

If what Flynn told the FBI in that interview was very different than what he said in the transcripts, that would be lying to the FBI. That's a felony. Flynn could see jail time.

But what if it was Trump that told him to tell the Russians to keep calm? That Trump will end the sanctions after the election if he wins? Then Trump really has a problem that neither the GOP nor Russia can help him out of.

It's clear you aren't much for rational thought or logic.
You base all of your beliefs off of pure conjecture from media reports.
If transcripts of the conversation surface then we might have something. But basically the media is telling us something was discussed without providing any context, and this is on purpose....because the context could be exculpatory in nature. i.e. Flynn wasn’t the one that mentioned sanctions. The Russian ambassador did.
The more that's known about classified conversations the weaker your case becomes.

BTW, what would be the crime Flynn would be imprisoned under, talking to foreigners on the telephone? Guess we'd have lock half of the California for that one....

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

Logan Act - Wikipedia

Obama and Hillary are guilty of the Logan act. What's the statute of limitations?




"The Logan Act states, “Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

The Logan Act also bars public officials from meeting with private citizens to make policy, a crime for which the Clinton White House was fined $300,000 for, according to Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker."


Hillary Fined $300,000 ~ Rick Perry Not! : The Logan Act Bars Public Officials From Meeting With Bilderbergs Plus Five Scriptures You Didn’t Hear At Rick Perry’s Prayer Fest!



Kuwait (July 18, 2008) Obama called off a meeting with wounded troops at a military hospital after the Pentagon told him that the trip might run afoul of a policy against visiting soldiers in the course of campaigning.

Afghanistan (July 20, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Obama reiterated his call for additional U.S. forces to deal with conditions in that he described as "precarious and urgent”. Obama spent time talking to U.S. military and diplomatic leadership, and to the leaders of Afghanistan, about whether the U.S. has the right strategy and the right resources to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda, and to support lasting stability. The message from Obama to the Afghan government is this: we want a strong partnership based on "more for more" - more resources from the United States and NATO, and more action from the Afghan government to improve the lives of the Afghan people.

Anbar Province, Western Iraq (July 21, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama held talks with Sunni tribal leaders and stated, “There is security progress, but now we need a political solution” and he repeated his goal of withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq within 16 months should he become president.

Ramadi, Iraq (July 21, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama met with militiamen of the US-backed Awakening Councils movement - a tribal alliance whose members turned against al-Qaeda last year. Ahmed Abu Risha, head of the Awakening Councils, said tribal chiefs told Mr Obama that any withdrawal of US forces from Anbar should be carried out cautiously.

Baghdad, Iraq (July 21, 2008) U.S. Sen. met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki who told Obama that he hoped US troops could be withdrawn from Iraq by 2010. Republican presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain, said that Obama was "completely wrong" to press for withdrawal timetables. Sen. McCain stated "When you win wars, troops come home”. (Sept. 2008) The New York Post has Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, on record, stating Barack Obama tried to interfere with ongoing negotiations with Iraqi leaders while on his trip to Iraq recently. While telling his supporters his plan to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months, Barack Obama was doing something far different while he was in Iraq. He was trying to talk Iraqi officials into delaying the agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence from Iraq, Zebari said in an interview with the New York Post. According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July. "He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington”.

Why would Obama do such a thing?

Because in order for him to have any type of credibility he needed to convince Americans that things were still going badly in Iraq.

(Oct 2, 2008) Iraqi leaders are hoping Barack Obama wins the White House and speeds up the withdrawal of American troops from their country.

Obama’s high-profile July visit to Baghdad appears to have won over top Iraqis, including Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, and the premier subsequently began demanding a time-table for US forces to leave Iraq.

Amman, Jordan (July 22, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama met with Jordan’s King Abdullah

Tel Aviv, Israel U.S. Sen. Obama held talks with Israeli leaders U.S. Sen. Obama held talks with Palestinian leaders

Britain (July 2008) Quote from British prime Minister, Gordon Brown: "The decision on the American election is a matter entirely for the American people and I have ….met with ….Senator Obama and talked to [him] about the issue that affect our two countries and the future of global issues."

France (July 25, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama held a joint news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy (whose country holds the European Union presidency) at the Elysée Palace in Paris.

Berlin, Germany (July 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama drew huge crowds in Berlin where he addressed them, oddly enough, as "fellow citizens of the world." Obama went on to state, “People of Berlin – people of the world – this is our moment. This is our time. ... With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again."

“The depth of Obama’s emotional investment in his vision of unification is unknowable. What does seem clear, however, is that although he tends to speak about problems in terms of impersonal forces, he [Obama] takes himself seriously as an agent and facilitator of change. If the change he believes in does not happen as easily or as quickly as he thinks it should, Obama might well interpret the obstacles in his path as personal affronts and greet them with anger, as he apparently became angry at his one-time mentor Jeremiah Wright only after the pastor called into question Obama’s claim to be a different kind of politician.” (“Honor versus Unity” by Lawrence D. Cooper, Oct. 2, 2008, Commentary.com)"

Obama Violated The Logan Act: Why Hasn't He Been Charged?