How the West (Europe) Brought "Civilization" to the World

[westwall]

I've been there. You're grasping.

You're ignoring.

 

[odanny]

You're ignoring.

The weird thing about this discussion is it is all off-topic, and has nothing to do with colonialism and how it destroys people and cultures.

Newsflash: It wasn't the climate that destroyed the Native Americans and their way of life, which, in hindsight, was actually superior to what replaced it from the European immigrants.

 

[whoisit]

I don't need to do anything. You don't want to begin talking about the divide and conquer techniques used by Europeans. You don't want to begin talking about the puppet governments installed by whites to carry out the goals of the corporations. You want me to tell the full story? Here are some examples.

Rwanda and Burundi had existed for centuries without European assistance, but due to the Berlin Conference in 1884, whites decided that Germany could have Rwanda and Burundi. In 1916, Belgian took control of Rwanda and Burundi due to a League of Nations mandate. Once Rwanda was colonized by Europeans, the colonizers invented a fake racial hierarchy whereby the Europeans deemed themselves superior, decided that the Tutsis were closer to white than the Hutus, and gave Tutsis preference over the Hutus. Under this fake hierarchy, Tutsis were deemed more intelligent and were born to rule, while Hutus were second class citizens.

Once put in force, this European construct limited the employment opportunities and educational attainment of the Hutus. Because the colonizers considered the Tutsis the preferred group, Tutsis were given positions Hutus were not allowed to have. To enforce this preference system, the Belgian colonizers introduced identity cards labeling each individual as Tutsi, Hutu, Twa, or Naturalised. Before that time, it had been possible for some Hutus to become “honorary Tutsis,” but the implementation of identity cards eliminated that possibility, thereby cementing Hutu second-class status.

This Belgian belief of superiority was based on the Hamidic Hypothesis. Using this hypothesis, Europeans created a false history and fake racial superiority between African tribes to control a nation and colonize the people living there.

That's not good enough for you? Here's another one.

When you look at Uganda, you see a nation that had been self-governed for centuries until the British decided they wanted to make money off the plentiful resources in Africa. During the “Scramble for Africa” in the 1800s, England decided they would make Uganda a British protectorate. The British gained control because of the signing of the first Buganda agreement. A representative of the King signed the first Buganda agreement because the King was a baby at the time. The Kings representative took advantage of the situation by agreeing to reduce the king’s power while increasing the power of his advisory council. This agreement gave the final say in all matters to the British, who could veto decisions made by the King.

That first agreement created many problems. Eventually, there was a second Buganda agreement. But my point here is that the existence of a King signifies a line of succession, showing us that Uganda was a sovereign nation governed by a monarchy. Uganda had been so ruled for at least 800 years before the Buganda agreement. From 1894 until 1962, a span of sixty-eight years, Britain colonized land that had been occupied for over 50,000 years. British colonization created division among the people of Uganda.

In 1962, Uganda gained independence and passed a constitution. At that time, the Uganda Peoples Republic was voted into power under Prime Minister Milton Obote. One of Obotes friends was named Idi Amin. Four years later, Obote did away with the constitution. Obote remained in power until 1971, when he was overthrown in a military coup by Amin.

Had it not been for the colonization of Uganda, instead of allowing Uganda to govern itself as it had been doing for 800 years before the British decided they had the right to control that country, it is very possible there would have been no rule by Idi Amin.

That not good enough for you? Here is another one.

Patrice Lumumba was assassinated by the CIA because he preached independence from colonizers. The U.S. installed someone who opposed Lumumba who helped get him killed. His name - Mobutu Sese Soko. We have been told what a terrible evil dictator Moutu was, and he was all of that, but we are the ones who put him in power and kept him in power for years.

You don't want to be shown all of the story. You want a storty whereby whites can be absved and to try blamining foblcksr the colonization. That's not going to be done by me. Whites chose the enter Africa. They didn't have to. Whites chose to divide up Africa due to the Berlin Cnference where no African nation was in attendence. These are the facts.

So I won't be cooling it. Face the truth, white man.

I'm not a man 'black man' [now see how that looks, not nice is it?
No race is anymore evil than the other, all have done some evil things to others.
Before the libs got rid of history they didn't like some things were taken out of the books.
Since the records on mankind people have been at war's for all kinds of reasons, still are today.
Now be civil and stop holding all that hate , its not good for you.

 

[westwall]

The weird thing about this discussion is it is all off-topic, and has nothing to do with colonialism and how it destroys people and cultures.

Newsflash: It wasn't the climate that destroyed the Native Americans and their way of life, which, in hindsight, was actually superior to what replaced it from the European immigrants.

Colonialism is long dead except for the current Chinese version going on in Africa.

You people keep whining about something that happened over a century ago.

ALL African countries have been free of the evil white devil for over 30 years now, most for over 60.

They no longer have an excuse for why they are shitholes. They are shitholes because their leaders are corrupt.

And ALWAYS have been, going back thousands of years.

 

[whitehall]

Sometimes you need a warning about material the desperate left seems to dwell on these days.

 

[odanny]

Sometimes you need a warning about material the desperate left seems to dwell on these days.

Trigger warning?

 

[marvin martian]

Watch the video and comment on the video.

They left out the part about your ancestors buying, selling, and owning black people.

How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative

The new exhibition 'Americans' at the National Museum of the American Indian prompts a deeper dive for historic truths

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[IM2]

I'm not a man 'black man' [now see how that looks, not nice is it?
No race is anymore evil than the other, all have done some evil things to others.
Before the libs got rid of history they didn't like some things were taken out of the books.
Since the records on mankind people have been at war's for all kinds of reasons, still are today.
Now be civil and stop holding all that hate , its not good for you.

Whatever. I am in a forum where white racists spend the day telling themselves how violent and criminal blacks are, how black nations are all shitholes, and things like that. I have not seen you say anything to them but in usual fashion, when the evils done by whites that impact us right now are shown, then we want civility and no race is any more evil than the other. Libs didn't get rid of history, and I don't hate. Drop your fragility, white woman, and face the truth. We ain't talking about the beginning of time, we are talking about now and now is the time whites want to tell everybody how they created civilization as it stands today. Now is the time whites want to go back to some time THEY think everything was great. So it is time to look at how we got to civilization as it stands today. It is time to look at whatever the past was that whites claim was soooo great. If whites don't like the story, whites shouldn't have done what they did.

 

[IM2]

Sometimes you need a warning about material the desperate left seems to dwell on these days.

Sometimes MAGA white supremacists need to be shown that what they believe is a bunch of psychosis-laden drivel.

 

[IM2]

I see that Doc7505 can't face the historical truth.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You didn’t even watch it. Stop lying

Could you give a commentary on the video please.

 

[Hellbilly]

Could you give a commentary on the video please.

Do I look like Roger Ebert?

 

[marvin martian]

Do I look like Roger Ebert?

You look like a slaver.

 

[Deadstick]

Colonialism is long dead except for the current Chinese version going on in Africa.

You people keep whining about something that happened over a century ago.

ALL African countries have been free of the evil white devil for over 30 years now, most for over 60.

They no longer have an excuse for why they are shitholes. They are shitholes because their leaders are corrupt.

And ALWAYS have been, going back thousands of years.

I didn't know the Chinese had sent their army to colonize Africa and murder the locals do you know what Colonialism means?

 

[IM2]

Westvall,

You don't know what you are talking about. STFU, trying to gain favor with whites. Do you want to talk about the sellouts among your own who helped whites fight against other nations? That was part of the way whites stole this land. Divide and conquer using opposing tribes to help them, then ******* over the sellouts. That's what they do today. Ask Candace Owens. And you better learn that sellout, because no matter how much white ass you kiss, you aint white.

 

[westwall]

I didn't know the Chinese had sent their army to colonize Africa and murder the locals do you know what Colonialism means?

The Chinese method is to buy up the .mineral wealth, and the politicians, so there is no need to bring in their army. They use the local forces to do their dirty work.

I'm surprised (but maybe shouldn't be) that you are so ignorant of the world.

 

[westwall]

Westvall,

You don't know what you are talking about. STFU, trying to gain favor with whites. Do you want to talk about the sellouts among your own who helped whites fight against other nations? That was part of the way whites stole this land. Divide and conquer using opposing tribes to help them, then ******* over the sellouts. That's what they do today. Ask Candace Owens. And you better learn that sellout, because no matter how much white ass you kiss, you aint white.

I don't try to gain favor with anyone you buffoon. I can buy most of the white people who annoyed me when I was a kid. They ask me for help now.

That's the ultimate revenge. I have paid more in taxes than the majority of them have earned.

THAT'S how I won my war, you lazy ****.

 

[Deadstick]

The Chinese method is to buy up the .mineral wealth, and the politicians, so there is no need to bring in their army. They use the local forces to do their dirty work.

I'm surprised (but maybe shouldn't be) that you are so ignorant of the world.

So doing business and modernizing infrastructure is Colonialism

 

[westwall]

So doing business and modernizing infrastructure is Colonialism

Yeah, because the Chinese OWN everything that matters. They don't care to pit their name on anything.

They CONTROL it, that's all that matters to them.

And ignorant lackeys, like you, fall for it every time.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

It's ugly. But this is the truth. This is the truth of "Western influence." This is what they call creating civilization.