How Much Should A Teacher Get Paid?

So youre saying two people working only make 7 thousand more dollars a year on average than one teacher. You arent making a very good case for the teachers here.

What are you talking about?

The median income for wisconsin is a family income, im sure a majority of those family incomes are a result of TWO incomes. So that means ONE teacher on average is making just a little less than an entire family in wisconsin. And that doesnt even include benefits. Sorry meister that first one was supposed to be a reply but I forgot to hit the quote. It wasnt meant to be directed at you. You already get it.


That's correct. The average per capita income is on $21K.

Wisconsin QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
 
The best qualified teachers should be in the poorer areas where the parental involvement is the least. There are professional teacher evaluators, called Praxis Reviewers that can determine the best teachers. These teachers should be receiving $10,000 (at least) more than the basic teachers in suburbia where students will progress even with the poorer teachers.

Teaching is one of the most important jobs there are and the secret of out future. Pay for this success well. The good teachers are hard to keep for their resumes will show the well equipped teacher to be very successful in business and hard to keep.

The best teachers know how to gain a rapport with the parents and are most apt to get more parent involvement than average teachers. They keep the parents informend and send home good notes and well as "We need to talk" notes. They work hard and go beyond the thier job to get involved.

Basic teachers should be paid $60,000 - $100,000 but not be protected by unions.
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How much should teachers make?

Can't answer than until you tell us what the median family income is where they live and work.

Just about anyplace you go in the USA teachers median salaries are far below every other profession.

In WISCONSON for example, the median teachers salary is $48,000 which is about $7,000 less than the median family income in WI.

Still think WI's teachers are overpaid?

I know some of you do. It's obvious to me that many of you hate teachers, hate professors, and you hate intellectuals generally.

And, based on your writing and overall misinformed POVs about how our world works, I fully understand why many of you hate intellectuals, too.

2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.
 
The best qualified teachers should be in the poorer areas where the parental involvement is the least. There are professional teacher evaluators, called Praxis Reviewers that can determine the best teachers. These teachers should be receiving $10,000 (at least) more than the basic teachers in suburbia where students will progress even with the poorer teachers.

Teaching is one of the most important jobs there are and the secret of out future. Pay for this success well. The good teachers are hard to keep for their resumes will show the well equipped teacher to be very successful in business and hard to keep.

The best teachers know how to gain a rapport with the parents and are most apt to get more parent involvement than average teachers. They keep the parents informend and send home good notes and well as "We need to talk" notes. They work hard and go beyond the thier job to get involved.

Basic teachers should be paid $60,000 - $100,000 but not be protected by unions.
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I disagree with your statement in bold, they should be in all classrooms....

And $60K should be based solely on cost of living....
 
2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.


Wisconsin Students Rank #2 in composite SAT Scores (Link)

And

Wisconsin Students Rank #3 in ACT Composite Scores (Link).




Yet the "freeloaders" are producing some of the highest test results in the nation.


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2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.


Wisconsin Students Rank #2 in composite SAT Scores (Link)

And

Wisconsin Students Rank #3 in ACT Composite Scores (Link).




Yet the "freeloaders" are producing some of the highest test results in the nation.


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Nothing for this year ? Why not ? And I can post a link to here it is

Ax D. WhiteMan Show

And who is teaching the free loaders kids while they try to extort money from Wisconsin and Federal taxpayers ?
 
2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.


Wisconsin Students Rank #2 in composite SAT Scores (Link)

And

Wisconsin Students Rank #3 in ACT Composite Scores (Link).




Yet the "freeloaders" are producing some of the highest test results in the nation.


>>>>

Nothing for this year ? Why not ? And I can post a link to here it is

Ax D. WhiteMan Show

And who is teaching the free loaders kids while they try to extort money from Wisconsin and Federal taxpayers ?


1. Kind of hard to post the results for this year when the exam cycle is not complete.

2. Your link provides a second source to conform the ranking I provided. Thanks.

3. Why would you think that I support teachers leaving the classroom to protest during school? You would be wrong.



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How much should teachers make?

Can't answer than until you tell us what the median family income is where they live and work.

Just about anyplace you go in the USA teachers median salaries are far below every other profession.

In WISCONSON for example, the median teachers salary is $48,000 which is about $7,000 less than the median family income in WI.

Still think WI's teachers are overpaid?

I know some of you do. It's obvious to me that many of you hate teachers, hate professors, and you hate intellectuals generally.

And, based on your writing and overall misinformed POVs about how our world works, I fully understand why many of you hate intellectuals, too.

2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.

Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:
 
How much should teachers make?

Can't answer than until you tell us what the median family income is where they live and work.

Just about anyplace you go in the USA teachers median salaries are far below every other profession.

In WISCONSON for example, the median teachers salary is $48,000 which is about $7,000 less than the median family income in WI.

Still think WI's teachers are overpaid?

I know some of you do. It's obvious to me that many of you hate teachers, hate professors, and you hate intellectuals generally.

And, based on your writing and overall misinformed POVs about how our world works, I fully understand why many of you hate intellectuals, too.

2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.

Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:
Yeah, I did!:lol::lol::lol:.........He made his point quite well.

What I don't find funny though, IS LIES!

You know, LIES like the ones you pulled off to ensure you suck off the taxpayers teats for the rest of your life?

Yeah, you've got reasons to be such a snarky lil' lesbian now, don't ya'?

:cool:
 
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How much should teachers make?

Can't answer than until you tell us what the median family income is where they live and work.

Just about anyplace you go in the USA teachers median salaries are far below every other profession.

In WISCONSON for example, the median teachers salary is $48,000 which is about $7,000 less than the median family income in WI.

Still think WI's teachers are overpaid?

I know some of you do. It's obvious to me that many of you hate teachers, hate professors, and you hate intellectuals generally.

And, based on your writing and overall misinformed POVs about how our world works, I fully understand why many of you hate intellectuals, too.

2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.

Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:

You may think illiterate kids is funny, but what about the folks who are sick of paying for this ?

Two-Thirds of Wisconsin Public-School 8th Graders Can’t Read Proficiently—Despite Highest Per Pupil Spending in Midwest
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
By Terence P. Jeffrey

Wisconsin students

Students from Appleton West High School protest a proposal by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker that would make teachers pay a fraction of their own pension and health-insurance costs. (AP Photo/Sharon Cekada)

(CNSNews.com) - Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest.

In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education in 2009—the latest year available—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.”

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The test also showed that the reading abilities of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders had not improved at all between 1998 and 2009 despite a significant inflation-adjusted increase in the amount of money Wisconsin public schools spent per pupil each year.

In 1998, according to the U.S. Department of Education, Wisconsin public school eighth graders scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. In 2009, Wisconsin public school eighth graders once again scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. Meanwhile, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil expenditures from $4,956 per pupil in 1998 to 10,791 per pupil in 2008. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator the $4,956 Wisconsin spent per pupil in 1998 dollars equaled $6,546 in 2008 dollars. That means that from 1998 to 2008, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil spending by $4,245 in real terms yet did not add a single point to the reading scores of their eighth graders and still could lift only one-third of their eighth graders to at least a “proficient” level in reading.

The $10,791 that Wisconsin spent per pupil in its public elementary and secondary schools in fiscal year 2008 was more than any other state in the Midwest.

Neighboring Illinois spent $10,353 per student in 2008, Minnesota spent $10,048 per student; Iowa spent $9,520 per student. Among Midwest states, Nebraska was second to Wisconsin in per pupil spending in its public schools, spending $10,565 per student.

Of these nearby states, only Minnesota did slightly better teaching reading to its public school students. In 2009, 39 percent of eighth graders in Minnesota public schools earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score in the state was 270 out of 500.

In Illinois, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score was 265 out of 500. In Iowa, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score was 265 out of 500. In Nebraska, only 35 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in their public schools, and the average reading score was 267 out of 500.

Nationwide, only 30 percent of public school eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score on the NAEP test was 262 out of 500.

The National Assessment of Educational Progress explains its student rating system as follows: “Basic denotes partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work at each grade. Proficient represents solid academic performance. Students reaching this level have demonstrated competency over challenging subject matter. Advanced represents superior performance.”

In other words, despite the $10,791 that taxpayers were paying to educate students in Wisconsin public schools, two-thirds of eighth graders in those schools showed at best only a “partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work” at that grade level.

In fiscal 2008, the federal government provided $669.6 million in subsidies to the public schools in Wisconsin.

Problems in Wisconsin Reading
Wisconsin’s performance on the reading portion of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) is simply unacceptable and unnecessary. Click here to view a summary of the results. Click here for more statistics.

Wisconsin 4th Grade NAEP Reading Results, 2009

- Below Basic - Basic - Proficient - Advanced -


All Students
• Only 7% of our students score at the advanced level.

• 67% of our students score BELOW proficient, 33% BELOW basic.



Low Income Students
• 54% of students on free or reduced lunch score BELOW basic.




African American Students
• Our black students have the lowest scores in the nation, 66% BELOW basic.



Students with Disabilities
• 73% of students with disabilities score BELOW basic.




How Wisconsin Measures Up


• Our scores have been statistically unchanged for the past decade, while other states have steadily improved.




• Wisconsin's national ranking has dropped from 3rd to 30th. Current teaching methodologies stifle the growth of our most talented children, and seriously hinder academic and life success for minority children and those with disadvantaged backgrounds or learning disabilities.

Your tax dollars hard at work Wisconsin.
 
2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.

Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:

You may think illiterate kids is funny, but what about the folks who are sick of paying for this ?

Two-Thirds of Wisconsin Public-School 8th Graders Can’t Read Proficiently—Despite Highest Per Pupil Spending in Midwest
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
By Terence P. Jeffrey

Wisconsin students

Students from Appleton West High School protest a proposal by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker that would make teachers pay a fraction of their own pension and health-insurance costs. (AP Photo/Sharon Cekada)

(CNSNews.com) - Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest.

In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education in 2009—the latest year available—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.”

e-brief signup

The test also showed that the reading abilities of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders had not improved at all between 1998 and 2009 despite a significant inflation-adjusted increase in the amount of money Wisconsin public schools spent per pupil each year.

In 1998, according to the U.S. Department of Education, Wisconsin public school eighth graders scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. In 2009, Wisconsin public school eighth graders once again scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. Meanwhile, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil expenditures from $4,956 per pupil in 1998 to 10,791 per pupil in 2008. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator the $4,956 Wisconsin spent per pupil in 1998 dollars equaled $6,546 in 2008 dollars. That means that from 1998 to 2008, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil spending by $4,245 in real terms yet did not add a single point to the reading scores of their eighth graders and still could lift only one-third of their eighth graders to at least a “proficient” level in reading.

The $10,791 that Wisconsin spent per pupil in its public elementary and secondary schools in fiscal year 2008 was more than any other state in the Midwest.

Neighboring Illinois spent $10,353 per student in 2008, Minnesota spent $10,048 per student; Iowa spent $9,520 per student. Among Midwest states, Nebraska was second to Wisconsin in per pupil spending in its public schools, spending $10,565 per student.

Of these nearby states, only Minnesota did slightly better teaching reading to its public school students. In 2009, 39 percent of eighth graders in Minnesota public schools earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score in the state was 270 out of 500.

In Illinois, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score was 265 out of 500. In Iowa, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score was 265 out of 500. In Nebraska, only 35 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in their public schools, and the average reading score was 267 out of 500.

Nationwide, only 30 percent of public school eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score on the NAEP test was 262 out of 500.

The National Assessment of Educational Progress explains its student rating system as follows: “Basic denotes partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work at each grade. Proficient represents solid academic performance. Students reaching this level have demonstrated competency over challenging subject matter. Advanced represents superior performance.”

In other words, despite the $10,791 that taxpayers were paying to educate students in Wisconsin public schools, two-thirds of eighth graders in those schools showed at best only a “partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work” at that grade level.

In fiscal 2008, the federal government provided $669.6 million in subsidies to the public schools in Wisconsin.

Problems in Wisconsin Reading
Wisconsin’s performance on the reading portion of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) is simply unacceptable and unnecessary. Click here to view a summary of the results. Click here for more statistics.

Wisconsin 4th Grade NAEP Reading Results, 2009

- Below Basic - Basic - Proficient - Advanced -


All Students
• Only 7% of our students score at the advanced level.

• 67% of our students score BELOW proficient, 33% BELOW basic.



Low Income Students
• 54% of students on free or reduced lunch score BELOW basic.




African American Students
• Our black students have the lowest scores in the nation, 66% BELOW basic.



Students with Disabilities
• 73% of students with disabilities score BELOW basic.




How Wisconsin Measures Up


• Our scores have been statistically unchanged for the past decade, while other states have steadily improved.




• Wisconsin's national ranking has dropped from 3rd to 30th. Current teaching methodologies stifle the growth of our most talented children, and seriously hinder academic and life success for minority children and those with disadvantaged backgrounds or learning disabilities.

Your tax dollars hard at work Wisconsin.
You have to understand, Bodecea is just a snarky lil' bitch......She is in no way informed on the issue at hand so, she comes up with her snarky lil' one line nonsense.

The fact that you were making a point in that line, went right over her empty lil' head.

And no, she doesn't give a damn about the kids. She's one of those up here who only cares about the loony liberal agenda. And if those kids are having their RIGHTS to an education stepped on by those teachers who abandoned their classrooms, so be it.
 
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Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:

You may think illiterate kids is funny, but what about the folks who are sick of paying for this ?

Two-Thirds of Wisconsin Public-School 8th Graders Can’t Read Proficiently—Despite Highest Per Pupil Spending in Midwest
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
By Terence P. Jeffrey

Wisconsin students

Students from Appleton West High School protest a proposal by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker that would make teachers pay a fraction of their own pension and health-insurance costs. (AP Photo/Sharon Cekada)

(CNSNews.com) - Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest.

In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education in 2009—the latest year available—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.”

e-brief signup

The test also showed that the reading abilities of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders had not improved at all between 1998 and 2009 despite a significant inflation-adjusted increase in the amount of money Wisconsin public schools spent per pupil each year.

In 1998, according to the U.S. Department of Education, Wisconsin public school eighth graders scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. In 2009, Wisconsin public school eighth graders once again scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. Meanwhile, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil expenditures from $4,956 per pupil in 1998 to 10,791 per pupil in 2008. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator the $4,956 Wisconsin spent per pupil in 1998 dollars equaled $6,546 in 2008 dollars. That means that from 1998 to 2008, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil spending by $4,245 in real terms yet did not add a single point to the reading scores of their eighth graders and still could lift only one-third of their eighth graders to at least a “proficient” level in reading.

The $10,791 that Wisconsin spent per pupil in its public elementary and secondary schools in fiscal year 2008 was more than any other state in the Midwest.

Neighboring Illinois spent $10,353 per student in 2008, Minnesota spent $10,048 per student; Iowa spent $9,520 per student. Among Midwest states, Nebraska was second to Wisconsin in per pupil spending in its public schools, spending $10,565 per student.

Of these nearby states, only Minnesota did slightly better teaching reading to its public school students. In 2009, 39 percent of eighth graders in Minnesota public schools earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score in the state was 270 out of 500.

In Illinois, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score was 265 out of 500. In Iowa, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score was 265 out of 500. In Nebraska, only 35 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in their public schools, and the average reading score was 267 out of 500.

Nationwide, only 30 percent of public school eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score on the NAEP test was 262 out of 500.

The National Assessment of Educational Progress explains its student rating system as follows: “Basic denotes partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work at each grade. Proficient represents solid academic performance. Students reaching this level have demonstrated competency over challenging subject matter. Advanced represents superior performance.”

In other words, despite the $10,791 that taxpayers were paying to educate students in Wisconsin public schools, two-thirds of eighth graders in those schools showed at best only a “partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work” at that grade level.

In fiscal 2008, the federal government provided $669.6 million in subsidies to the public schools in Wisconsin.

Problems in Wisconsin Reading
Wisconsin’s performance on the reading portion of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) is simply unacceptable and unnecessary. Click here to view a summary of the results. Click here for more statistics.

Wisconsin 4th Grade NAEP Reading Results, 2009

- Below Basic - Basic - Proficient - Advanced -


All Students
• Only 7% of our students score at the advanced level.

• 67% of our students score BELOW proficient, 33% BELOW basic.



Low Income Students
• 54% of students on free or reduced lunch score BELOW basic.




African American Students
• Our black students have the lowest scores in the nation, 66% BELOW basic.



Students with Disabilities
• 73% of students with disabilities score BELOW basic.




How Wisconsin Measures Up


• Our scores have been statistically unchanged for the past decade, while other states have steadily improved.




• Wisconsin's national ranking has dropped from 3rd to 30th. Current teaching methodologies stifle the growth of our most talented children, and seriously hinder academic and life success for minority children and those with disadvantaged backgrounds or learning disabilities.

Your tax dollars hard at work Wisconsin.
You have to understand, Bodecea is just a snarky lil' bitch......She is in no way informed on the issue at hand so, she comes up with her snarky lil' one line non-sense.

The fact that you were making a point in that line, went right over her empty lil' head.

And no, she doesn't give a damn about the kids. She's one of those up here who only cares about the loony liberal agenda. And if those kids are having their RIGHTS to an education stepped on by those teachers who abandoned their classrooms, so be it.

Libs like them stupid so that they are easier to control.
 
An honest answer.

So do you think this is a good thing?

Riiiight. Only the answer that enforces your worldview and lets you advance your agenda is "honest".

:bsflag:

What are you so afraid of, that you can't sack up and answer any of the very honest and logical answers that involve actually pricing teacher salaries according to standard job market influences? Concerned that someone might expose the fact that you have no idea what standard job market influences on salaries actually ARE?

So the average non-educated citizen should make more than a teacher with a Master degree? Well, at least you are being honest. LOL!!

And where, precisely, did I say THAT? I realize that my points are virtually impossible for you to answer coherently, but that doesn't mean you get to make up points you WISH I had made and force them into my mouth.
 
A teacher's total compensation, salary and benefits, including accruals/contributions for any future pay (i.e. pensions) should not be more than a school system can handle while staying within actual receipts.

Pay should not be buffered by a school system going into debt or by the federal government providing "stimulus" funds.

That's the sort of statement that sounds really meaningful, but doesn't really have any substance. How much is "actual receipts"? That can very widely depending on a variety of factors.
 
2/3 of there eighth graders cant read to good. The fact that the freeloaders even have a job is confounding. and yes, the teachers in Wisconsin are over paid for that reason alone.

Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:
Yeah, I did!:lol::lol::lol:.........He made his point quite well.

What I don't find funny though, IS LIES!

You know, LIES like the ones you pulled off to ensure you suck off the taxpayers teats for the rest of your life?

Yeah, you've got reasons to be such a snarky lil' lesbian now, don't ya'?

:cool:

The question is...when did the Educational System fail you, Wicked?
 
You may think illiterate kids is funny, but what about the folks who are sick of paying for this ?

Two-Thirds of Wisconsin Public-School 8th Graders Can’t Read Proficiently—Despite Highest Per Pupil Spending in Midwest
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
By Terence P. Jeffrey

Wisconsin students

Students from Appleton West High School protest a proposal by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker that would make teachers pay a fraction of their own pension and health-insurance costs. (AP Photo/Sharon Cekada)

(CNSNews.com) - Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest.

In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education in 2009—the latest year available—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.”

e-brief signup

The test also showed that the reading abilities of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders had not improved at all between 1998 and 2009 despite a significant inflation-adjusted increase in the amount of money Wisconsin public schools spent per pupil each year.

In 1998, according to the U.S. Department of Education, Wisconsin public school eighth graders scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. In 2009, Wisconsin public school eighth graders once again scored an average of 266 out of 500 on the NAEP reading test. Meanwhile, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil expenditures from $4,956 per pupil in 1998 to 10,791 per pupil in 2008. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator the $4,956 Wisconsin spent per pupil in 1998 dollars equaled $6,546 in 2008 dollars. That means that from 1998 to 2008, Wisconsin public schools increased their per pupil spending by $4,245 in real terms yet did not add a single point to the reading scores of their eighth graders and still could lift only one-third of their eighth graders to at least a “proficient” level in reading.

The $10,791 that Wisconsin spent per pupil in its public elementary and secondary schools in fiscal year 2008 was more than any other state in the Midwest.

Neighboring Illinois spent $10,353 per student in 2008, Minnesota spent $10,048 per student; Iowa spent $9,520 per student. Among Midwest states, Nebraska was second to Wisconsin in per pupil spending in its public schools, spending $10,565 per student.

Of these nearby states, only Minnesota did slightly better teaching reading to its public school students. In 2009, 39 percent of eighth graders in Minnesota public schools earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score in the state was 270 out of 500.

In Illinois, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average eighth grade reading score was 265 out of 500. In Iowa, only 32 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score was 265 out of 500. In Nebraska, only 35 percent of eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in their public schools, and the average reading score was 267 out of 500.

Nationwide, only 30 percent of public school eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score on the NAEP test was 262 out of 500.

The National Assessment of Educational Progress explains its student rating system as follows: “Basic denotes partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work at each grade. Proficient represents solid academic performance. Students reaching this level have demonstrated competency over challenging subject matter. Advanced represents superior performance.”

In other words, despite the $10,791 that taxpayers were paying to educate students in Wisconsin public schools, two-thirds of eighth graders in those schools showed at best only a “partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work” at that grade level.

In fiscal 2008, the federal government provided $669.6 million in subsidies to the public schools in Wisconsin.

Problems in Wisconsin Reading
Wisconsin’s performance on the reading portion of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) is simply unacceptable and unnecessary. Click here to view a summary of the results. Click here for more statistics.

Wisconsin 4th Grade NAEP Reading Results, 2009

- Below Basic - Basic - Proficient - Advanced -


All Students
• Only 7% of our students score at the advanced level.

• 67% of our students score BELOW proficient, 33% BELOW basic.



Low Income Students
• 54% of students on free or reduced lunch score BELOW basic.




African American Students
• Our black students have the lowest scores in the nation, 66% BELOW basic.



Students with Disabilities
• 73% of students with disabilities score BELOW basic.




How Wisconsin Measures Up


• Our scores have been statistically unchanged for the past decade, while other states have steadily improved.




• Wisconsin's national ranking has dropped from 3rd to 30th. Current teaching methodologies stifle the growth of our most talented children, and seriously hinder academic and life success for minority children and those with disadvantaged backgrounds or learning disabilities.

Your tax dollars hard at work Wisconsin.
You have to understand, Bodecea is just a snarky lil' bitch......She is in no way informed on the issue at hand so, she comes up with her snarky lil' one line non-sense.

The fact that you were making a point in that line, went right over her empty lil' head.

And no, she doesn't give a damn about the kids. She's one of those up here who only cares about the loony liberal agenda. And if those kids are having their RIGHTS to an education stepped on by those teachers who abandoned their classrooms, so be it.

Libs like them stupid so that they are easier to control.

This one's even funnier. :lol::lol::lol:
 
Anyone else find that as funny as I did? :lol::lol::lol:
Yeah, I did!:lol::lol::lol:.........He made his point quite well.

What I don't find funny though, IS LIES!

You know, LIES like the ones you pulled off to ensure you suck off the taxpayers teats for the rest of your life?

Yeah, you've got reasons to be such a snarky lil' lesbian now, don't ya'?

:cool:

The question is...when did the Educational System fail you, Wicked?
How is graduating high school a year early at 17, and an assosciates degree considered faling, ya' snarky lil' wench?

How is having the opportunity to retire at 45 years of age, with money in the bank you could only dream about, considered failing, ya' snarky lil' wench?
 
You have to understand, Bodecea is just a snarky lil' bitch......She is in no way informed on the issue at hand so, she comes up with her snarky lil' one line non-sense.

The fact that you were making a point in that line, went right over her empty lil' head.

And no, she doesn't give a damn about the kids. She's one of those up here who only cares about the loony liberal agenda. And if those kids are having their RIGHTS to an education stepped on by those teachers who abandoned their classrooms, so be it.

Libs like them stupid so that they are easier to control.

This one's even funnier. :lol::lol::lol:

Nothing to say about them not being able to read ? Did you go to school in Wisconsin ? And what union represents you ?
 
Yeah, I did!:lol::lol::lol:.........He made his point quite well.

What I don't find funny though, IS LIES!

You know, LIES like the ones you pulled off to ensure you suck off the taxpayers teats for the rest of your life?

Yeah, you've got reasons to be such a snarky lil' lesbian now, don't ya'?

:cool:

The question is...when did the Educational System fail you, Wicked?
How is graduating high school a year early at 17, and an assosciates degree considered faling, ya' snarky lil' wench?

How is having the opportunity to retire at 45 years of age, with money in the bank you could only dream about, considered failing, ya' snarky lil' wench?

isn't it nice to not have to wait for food stamps to come in ? When my work slowed down it sure was nice to not have to ask uncle Sam to feed the kids.
 

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