11% of black students in Chicago can read while teachers make $100,000

[Lisa558]

Because your performance is based solely on what OTHER people do, and in many cases, you have no control over that.

Driver's Ed, for example. Imagine paying DE instructors less money because their former students got in accidents. They have NO control over that, and the very idea is ridiculous. Even to pay based on how many pass a driver's test is questionable. Some people are just bad drivers. Not the teacher's fault.

Team leaders in corporate America are evaluated on how well their team members perform. They have as much control over that as teachers do over their students.

And don’t tell me that corporate employees choose their own team. In most cases, they’re assigned to them.

 

[toobfreak]

Dislike the last one. Of course no one wants hateful, pernicious teachers, who shouldn't even be in the profession in the first place. But if a student--especially younger ones--are always "satisfied" with their teachers, are they learning anything? Are they being challenged at all?

Look at it this way: good teachers in this situation are like good parents. The kid who just got grounded is not "satisfied", but in the long run, discipline will help them. Same with teaching.

I suppose, but that is not what I meant.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

So, if they can get 100% of the kids to become literate, the teachers will make $900k annually!
And the teachers themselves likely don’t have to able to read.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I see you guys want to tutor black kids in yer spare time, because you was a straight A student.

I'd rather pay them to never breed.

 

[Woodznutz]

No , I want Chicago teachers to do what they are paid to do, teach these kids of ALL races how to read and spend less time politicking against our President.

To paraphrase coach Vince Lombardi,

"Reading isn't everything, it's the only thing."

"Reading is the gateway to proficiency in all other educational pursuits. If a student is behind in reading all other academic courses should be suspended until it is remedied." -Woodznutz.

IOW, if a student isn't proficient in reading how can they be proficient in other courses that require reading comprehension.

 

[Unkotare]

... Of course no one wants hateful, pernicious teachers, who shouldn't even be in the profession in the first place. ...

cough cough

 

[Unkotare]

I'd rather pay them to never breed.

Is that what happened to you?

 

[Unkotare]

I see you guys want to tutor black kids in yer spare time....

Is that what YOU do?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Is that what happened to you?

Speak, boy!

 

[Orangecat]

I see you guys want to tutor black kids in yer spare time, because you was a straight A student.

Being a straight A student doesn't have any connection whatsoever with a desire to be a tutor. You don't think well.

 

[Unkotare]

Speak, boy!

Upon what subject?

 

[Unkotare]

Being a straight A student doesn't have any connection whatsoever with a desire to be a tutor. You don't think well.

I think what you meant to say was "at all."

 

[Orangecat]

I think what you meant to say was "at all."

I stand corrected.

 

[Lisa558]

I see you guys want to tutor black kids in yer spare time, because you was a straight A student.

I was a straight-A student and DID tutor black kids, and as a volunteer.

So what point were you making?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Upon what subject?

Good boy! Now roll over!

 

[Unkotare]

Good boy! Now roll over!

Perhaps you misunderstood the question.

 

[Lisa558]

I was a straight-A student and DID tutor black kids, and as a volunteer.

So what point were you making?

“Fire and ice” just gave this a “false news.” Why would he tell someone who graduated Pho Beta Kappa and did indeed volunteer as a tutor to struggling students a liar?

He must be a Democrat. When they get respond to the point, they yell “liar.” Or “racist.”

 

[initforme]

As far as I know teachers are not eligible for Social Security. I'll never forget a retired teacher telling me many years ago (15 at least) that he was shocked by the number of increases he received to his pension, and what stood out was when he said "I don't know where this state gets the money", and that's it, the state does not have the money, that's why taxes are excessive in Illinois.

The real killer is the police and firefighter unions, they get hurt, they can start their pension early, otherwise, they can retire after 20 and get huge increases in their pensions over time. If you retire in your early 40's your pension could be massive.

And, of course, all the politicians get the same.

If you want police and firefighters protecting then there's nothing going wrong with them collecting a pension. "Please work for us" but for less okay? Where does this mi set to undercut people come from?

 

[Jarlaxle]

If you want police and firefighters protecting then there's nothing going wrong with them collecting a pension. "Please work for us" but for less okay? Where does this mi set to undercut people come from?

The fact we simply cannot afford it.

 

[leftwinger]

Problem with GOVT pensions is the “unfairness”. A citizen starts work age 22. Works 50 yrs and his pension is $3K/mo for higher earners.

A CA pension is after only 20-30 yrs work, based on 98% last three years earnings (hello pension spiking on the way out). A lot of 50 yr old State workers end up on the golf course with $10K/mo pension. As an example.

Or they hire them back in the club as consultant to another county. Yes, its a cult Mac&Cheesedic.