How many times has humanity been wiped down to near extinction?

[Vastator]

What 'coils' in Giza? Were these your 'levitation beams'?

As for Giza never being a 'tomb', what then of all the tomb chambers and the granite sarcophagus found inside?

Not one body...

 

[westwall]

The Pyramids had layers of salt on them.

"The evaporative cooling passage of the Great Pyramid of Giza and the Queen's chamber were discovered with a very hard encrustation of salt, up to one-half inch (1.3 centimeter) thick."

You can have salt blown on from elsewhere. Hydraulic weathering leaves very particular forms. Those are present on the Sphinx, but not the Pyramids.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You can have salt blown on from elsewhere. Hydraulic weathering leaves very particular forms. Those are present on the Sphinx, but not the Pyramids.

You just gotta trust me on this. The Pyramids have been there a very long time

 

[westwall]

You just gotta trust me on this. The Pyramids have been there a very long time

I have no problem agreeing that the CORE of the Pyramids predate the ancient Egyptians. But the exterior are contemporary with them.

 

[ReinyDays]

These are pictures of granite edifices on Elaphantine Island. No known date for when they were made, but it has been assumed that it is Egyptian. Feel free to show us anything the Egyptians did that is even close to this level of work. Notice the saw cut. The claim is they used sand abrasion to make those cuts. My question is how do you even start the cutting? There's nothing to focus the sand into the cut. Also, look at the precision of the cut. Copper saws won't do that in a million years. The second image shows the top part with multiple angles, all cut precisely. Once again, WE have a hard time doing that now, with massive grinding machines.

How did they do it with hand tools?

That's my question. Show us a method.

Wait a second ... you're asking me to prove this wasn't done by extra-terrestials? ... these pictures could have come from anywhere ... and the proof is no cesium ...

No ... extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence ... my claim is completely ordinary, so my ordinary evidence is this:

Decoding the Great Pyramid

New archeological evidence sheds light on the stunning engineering of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

www.pbs.org

Notice I'm naming my citations, letting you judge the quality of information ... the Egyptians used the tools to quarry that are found ... you know ... in the quarries themselves ... harder rocks (like diabase) breaks softer rocks (like granite) ...ask any geologist ...

 

[westwall]

Wait a second ... you're asking me to prove this wasn't done by extra-terrestials? ... these pictures could have come from anywhere ... and the proof is no cesium ...

No ... extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence ... my claim is completely ordinary, so my ordinary evidence is this:

Decoding the Great Pyramid

New archeological evidence sheds light on the stunning engineering of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

www.pbs.org

Notice I'm naming my citations, letting you judge the quality of information ... the Egyptians used the tools to quarry that are found ... you know ... in the quarries themselves ... harder rocks (like diabase) breaks softer rocks (like granite) ...ask any geologist ...

When have I ever claimed this work was done by aliens. Yes, you resort to the ever popular appeal to authority. I hate to break it to ya, but that's a logical fallacy. I expected better from you.

Keep playing your pithy games.

 

[ReinyDays]

When have I ever claimed this work was done by aliens. Yes, you resort to the ever popular appeal to authority. I hate to break it to ya, but that's a logical fallacy. I expected better from you.

Keep playing your pithy games.

Go read the OP again stupid ... you're defending "Ancient Astronauts" ...

NOVA on PBS isn't an authority ... the Egyptologists they interview on the program are ... why do you think asking an Egyptologist about Egyptology is the logical fallacy of "appealing to authority"? ... NOVA presents their case and their evidence, the only question is the program produced in good-faith? ...

... [giggle] ... or asking a geologist if I'm using the Mohs scale correctly ... I was asking, not appealing ... you're just miffed because I pointed out the fraud in your images ... and you know I'm right about diabase ... it's only your tender pride that stops you from being honest ...

 

[PeterPilot]

The pyramids were not built by humans pulling rocks up ramps with ropes.

 

[ReinyDays]

The pyramids were not built by humans pulling rocks up ramps with ropes.

Do you have proof, or just doctored photos? ...

 

[PeterPilot]

Do you have proof, or just doctored photos? ...

Do you allow for common sense in your worldview?

 

[ReinyDays]

Do you allow for common sense in your worldview?

That Egyptians built the pyramids is common sense ... that ancient astronauts built them with magic is total bullshit ... no matter how well we photochop the images ...

I think the NOVA program presents the "common sense" approach ... or all that can be said with the evidence at hand ... and they show the evidence ... call it "inside the box" material ... read some of Robert Schoch's books if you want pseudo-science ... he does make a compelling case, with evidence ... maybe we have better explanations along that route ...

Keep in mind I'm an uneducated construction worker ... I have A LOT of experience pounding on things with a hammer ... for a rather wide variety of reasons ... including busting up concrete, with a hammer ... the fact remains, there are harder rocks than granite ... starting with jasper, which is common enough ... the clue is the tools at the quarry, it's fair to assume these were the tools they used to work the stone ... rather than cesium belching lasers ...

 

[PeterPilot]

That Egyptians built the pyramids is common sense ... that ancient astronauts built them with magic is total bullshit ... no matter how well we photochop the images ...

I think the NOVA program presents the "common sense" approach ... or all that can be said with the evidence at hand ... and they show the evidence ... call it "inside the box" material ... read some of Robert Schoch's books if you want pseudo-science ... he does make a compelling case, with evidence ... maybe we have better explanations along that route ...

Keep in mind I'm an uneducated construction worker ... I have A LOT of experience pounding on things with a hammer ... for a rather wide variety of reasons ... including busting up concrete, with a hammer ... the fact remains, there are harder rocks than granite ... starting with jasper, which is common enough ... the clue is the tools at the quarry, it's fair to assume these were the tools they used to work the stone ... rather than cesium belching lasers ...

LOL, you cannot distinguish between common sense and propaganda.

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL, you cannot distinguish between common sense and propaganda.

What propaganda? ... why would the Egyptians keep records of their genocides? ... which part of the pyramid isn't propaganda? ... way to go Bubba ... [hand wave] ... state your case if you have one ...

 

[ThisIsMe]

With the recent discovery of Gobekli Tepi, it's indisputable that a prior, advanced human civilization was laid low during the Younger Dryas. By itself it speaks to a prior civilization that warned doom from the sky above. Then you add to it that the Egyptian Priest who told that the destruction happened 9,000 years prior, also dating back to the Younger Dryas.

With respect to the dating of the Sphinx and Great Pyramid, it's clear that these were already there when the Egyptians arrived. Since both the Sphinx and Pyramids show water erosion, they too predate the Younger Dryas. The question is: did the builder of the Pyramids intentionally make a construct they KNEW would survive the certain destruction?

Humans have been the same genetically for 200,000 plus years. The idea that we only developed technology a few thousand years ago is now demonstrable false. They was at least one prior, advanced civilization. I suspect there were others as well

Thoughts?

Göbekli Tepe - Wikipedia

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Oh my, you should get into Why Files on youtube. This kind of stuff is right up his alley...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh my, you should get into Why Files on youtube. This kind of stuff is right up his alley...

Yeah been a fan of his for years now

 

[CrusaderFrank]

That Egyptians built the pyramids is common sense ... that ancient astronauts built them with magic is total bullshit ... no matter how well we photochop the images ...

I think the NOVA program presents the "common sense" approach ... or all that can be said with the evidence at hand ... and they show the evidence ... call it "inside the box" material ... read some of Robert Schoch's books if you want pseudo-science ... he does make a compelling case, with evidence ... maybe we have better explanations along that route ...

Keep in mind I'm an uneducated construction worker ... I have A LOT of experience pounding on things with a hammer ... for a rather wide variety of reasons ... including busting up concrete, with a hammer ... the fact remains, there are harder rocks than granite ... starting with jasper, which is common enough ... the clue is the tools at the quarry, it's fair to assume these were the tools they used to work the stone ... rather than cesium belching lasers ...

There is no way the "Egyptians" built Giza. The confirmation of a complex subterranean architecture now renders this a physical impossibility.

Clearing and leveling the Giza Plateau was proof enough in itself, but a complex subterranean structure now renders it a physical impossibility that it was bult by "Egyptians"

We have a building in lower Manhattan that is tilting and uninhabitable because the developer thought he could outsmart the foundation. At Giza that problem is multiplied 100 fold!

If you don't secure the foundation, if you're off by 1/2 inch at the base, you will never get a stable structure at the capstone

If you can't accept that it was built by a prior civilization that was wiped from Earth, that's your problem. To keep trying to attribute it to slave labor and copper or bronze chisels is just silliness

 

[ReinyDays]

There is no way the "Egyptians" built Giza. The confirmation of a complex subterranean architecture now renders this a physical impossibility.

Clearing and leveling the Giza Plateau was proof enough in itself, but a complex subterranean structure now renders it a physical impossibility that it was bult by "Egyptians"

We have a building in lower Manhattan that is tilting and uninhabitable because the developer thought he could outsmart the foundation. At Giza that problem is multiplied 100 fold!

If you don't secure the foundation, if you're off by 1/2 inch at the base, you will never get a stable structure at the capstone

If you can't accept that it was built by a prior civilization that was wiped from Earth, that's your problem. To keep trying to attribute it to slave labor and copper or bronze chisels is just silliness

Because a prior civilization would have the same problems as the Egyptians ... except without bronze ...

Besides ... Egyptians used diabase chisels ... you're just making stuff up now ... let's see the plan for this foundation that's a half-inch off and then work out the vector diagram and see the pyramid shape is self-stable ... and compare to the Bent Pyramid - Wikipedia ...

You sure are being a sucker for photochop lately ...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because a prior civilization would have the same problems as the Egyptians ... except without bronze ...

Besides ... Egyptians used diabase chisels ... you're just making stuff up now ... let's see the plan for this foundation that's a half-inch off and then work out the vector diagram and see the pyramid shape is self-stable ... and compare to the Bent Pyramid - Wikipedia ...

You sure are being a sucker for photochop lately ...

Leave the Matrix

Nothing bad will happen

There was a prior world spanning civilization, more advanced and more civilized than us

 

[ReinyDays]

Leave the Matrix

Nothing bad will happen

There was a prior world spanning civilization, more advanced and more civilized than us

Then where is all the cesium pollution? ... all natural Cesium-135 in our solar system decayed to nothing by one billion years ago ... the ONLY source of this today is from fission reactions in nuclear power plants (or fallout from nuclear bombs) ...

MORE civilized? ... where are their cities then? ... where is the evidence? ... where's their waste? ...

Oh right, they didn't need nuclear power (or leave any waste) with all the fancy magic they had ...

 

[Skylar]

Not one body...

Yeah, every single one of them had already been looted.

Now show me a 'coil' or a 'levitation' beam.