How many times has humanity been wiped down to near extinction?

[DakotaKai_fan20]

You just said that Gobekli Tepi was built by 'Noah' or 'aliens'. And provided nothing to back either claim.

Why would I trust your personal opinion as scientific evidence?

You don't need scientific evidence for the unknown. Like there are interdimensional beings on Skin Walker Ranch.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Gobekli Tepi was the side of a moderate village. It consists of a temple about about 20 buildings.

That's hardly an 'advanced civilization'. That's a village. The entire site is about 20 acres

Gobekli Tepi is about 100 buildings. They were cutting, accurately carving, transporting and placing 20 ton stones.

Maybe the 20 got you confused?

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Gobekli Tepi is about 100 buildings. They were cutting, accurately carving, transporting and placing 20 ton stones.

Maybe the 20 got you confused?

I knew he was wrong about 20 buildings.

 

[Skylar]

Gobekli Tepi is about 100 buildings. They were cutting, accurately carving, transporting and placing 20 ton stones.

Maybe the 20 got you confused?

I'm referring to the domed structures, what you're showing pictures. There are 4 domed enclosures with an estimated 16 more.

The World's First Temple

Turkey's 12,000-year-old stone circles were the spiritual center of a nomadic people

web.archive.org

Here's most of the large structures.

Its a tiny site. As a point of comparison, that's a tent in the upper right hand corner, next to a small tree. This is smaller than a tiny sub division, or a fraction of a walmart parking lot. The entire site, including every last scrap of limestone fragment, is roughly 20 acres. Here's a close up for scale:

See the two dudes in blue/white shirts for scale? That's about the size of a single family home. And that's the biggest temple in the entire complex.

There were no metal tools. There was no writing system. This was a neolithic temple complex with an estimated ZERO permanent residents. At best, it was a moderate sized seasonal village.

This is not an "Advanced civilization". And certainly nothing that rivals the fertile crescent civilizations that that would follow it with writing systems, metal work, spanned square miles, and had tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.

You're trying too hard with your 'Egyptian Levitation Beams Built the Pyramid' nonsense again. This was neolithic work, stone buildings made with stone tools.

No aliens required.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

I'm referring to the domed structures, what you're showing pictures. There are 4 domed enclosures with an estimated 16 more.

The World's First Temple

Turkey's 12,000-year-old stone circles were the spiritual center of a nomadic people

web.archive.org

Here's most of the large structures.

View attachment 996408

Its a tiny site. As a point of comparison, that's a tent in the upper right hand corner, next to a small tree. This is smaller than a tiny sub division, or a fraction of a walmart parking lot. The entire site, including every last scrap of limestone fragment, is roughly 20 acres.

There were no metal tools. There was no writing system. This was a neolithic temple complex with an estimated ZERO permanent residents.

This is not an "Advanced civilization". And certainly nothing that rivals the fertile crescent civilizations that that would follow it.

You're trying too hard with your 'Egyptian Levitation Beams Built the Pyramid' nonsense again. This was neolithic work, stone buildings made with stone tools.

No aliens required.

You still don't get it. 100 buildings is fact.

 

[Skylar]

I knew he was wrong about 20 buildings.

I'm referring to the domed structures, the actual temples that Crusader is citing as the 'advanced civilization'. The overwhelming majority of the actual stonework on the site.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

I'm referring to the domed structures, the actual temples that Crusader is citing as the 'advanced civilization'. The overwhelming majority of the actual stonework on the site.

I love your ignorance for the facts.

 

[Skylar]

I love your ignorance for the facts.

I love how your primary source for all things archeology is a TV show called 'Ancient Aliens'. And how you insisted that Gobekli Tepe was built by Noah (yes, that Noah), or by Aliens.

Because Erich von Däniken said so. Good luck with that.

Back in reality, Gobekli Tepe is a small site, about the size of a decent sized strip mall parking lot. The largest temple in the complex is the size of a single family home. It had no metal tools, no writing system. It was a neolithic temple complex with an estimated ZERO permanent residents.

That's not an 'advanced civilization'. Even when you insist that Noah built it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'm referring to the domed structures, what you're showing pictures. There are 4 domed enclosures with an estimated 16 more.

The World's First Temple

Turkey's 12,000-year-old stone circles were the spiritual center of a nomadic people

web.archive.org

Here's most of the large structures.

View attachment 996408

Its a tiny site. As a point of comparison, that's a tent in the upper right hand corner, next to a small tree. This is smaller than a tiny sub division, or a fraction of a walmart parking lot. The entire site, including every last scrap of limestone fragment, is roughly 20 acres. Here's a close up for scale:

View attachment 996411

See the two dudes in blue/white shirts for scale? That's about the size of a single family home. And that's the biggest temple in the entire complex.

There were no metal tools. There was no writing system. This was a neolithic temple complex with an estimated ZERO permanent residents. At best, it was a moderate sized seasonal village.

This is not an "Advanced civilization". And certainly nothing that rivals the fertile crescent civilizations that that would follow it with writing systems, metal work, spanned square miles, and had tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.

You're trying too hard with your 'Egyptian Levitation Beams Built the Pyramid' nonsense again. This was neolithic work, stone buildings made with stone tools.

No aliens required.

The WEF closed the site for any future research

Odd

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

I love how your primary source for all things archeology is a TV show called 'Ancient Aliens'. And how you insisted that Gobekli Tepe was built by Noah (yes, that Noah), or by Aliens.

Because Erich von Däniken said so. Good luck with that.

Back in reality, Gobekli Tepe is a small site, about the size of a decent sized strip mall parking lot. The largest temple in the complex is the size of a single family home. It had no metal tools, no writing system. It was a neolithic temple complex with an estimated ZERO permanent residents.

That's not an 'advanced civilization'. Even when you insist that Noah built it.

Well Noah built the ark and there we only around a half a dozen people. Noah toiled on the ark for a hundred years. It it possible he toiled on Gobekli Tepi for 200 years. Also extraterrestrials can never be counted out of the equation.

 

[Skylar]

Well Noah built the ark and there we only around a half a dozen people. Noah toiled on the ark for a hundred years. It it possible he toiled on Gobekli Tepi for 200 years. Also extraterrestrials can never be counted out of the equation.

So your evidence that Noah built Gobekli Tepe is just you making up a story that its 'possible'?

So no evidence. That was easy.

Lets try aliens. What evidence do you have that 'aliens' built Gobekli Tepe. Show us, don't tell us.

And if it was aliens, why did they limit themselves to stone? Why no writing? Why no metal tools? Why only the technology that the neolithic hunter/gathers would have had available to them?

The aliens seem to have rendered themselves completely unnecessary.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

So your evidence that Noah built Gobekli Tepe is just you making up a story that its 'possible'?

So no evidence. That was easy.

Lets try aliens. What evidence do you have that 'aliens' built Gobekli Tepe. Show us, don't tell us.

And if it was aliens, why did they limit themselves to stone? Why no writing? Why no metal tools? Why only the technology that the neolithic hunter/gathers would have had available to them?

Well Noah lived for 950 years. So no, it is possible he built it.

 

[Skylar]

Well Noah lived for 950 years. So no, it is possible he built it.

So no evidence whatsoever that Noah built Gobekli Tepe. Or ever knew it existed. Or was even alive when it was an active site.

And no evidence whatsoever that Gobekli Tepe was built by Aliens.

So, um.......with zero evidence, why Noah, why Aliens? Couldn't neolithic people, using stone tools, have built it themselves? If not, why not?

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

So no evidence whatsoever that Noah built Gobekli Tepe. Or ever knew it existed. Or was even alive when it was an active site.

And no evidence whatsoever that Gobekli Tepe was built by Aliens.

So, um.......with zero evidence, why Noah, why Aliens? Couldn't neolithic people, using stone tools, have built it themselves? If not, why not?

The aliens took their tools with them.

 

[Skylar]

The aliens took their tools with them.

Says who? And again, if the aliens had access to such vast technology, why stone work that neolithic people could have made without them?

Why no metal tools? Did the aliens not know how to smelt metal? Why not more advanced structures? There weren't even arches. Just pillars, the most rudimentary architectural structure after stacking rocks. Why rocks? Didn't the aliens have AT LEAST reinforced concrete? Carbon fiber? Titanium?

Why no writing? Did the aliens not know how to write?

Instead, the 'aliens' built a structure the neolithic people could have made with stone tools, with no writing, no metal tools, and the most rudimentary building techniques. Why would the aliens even be necessary?

Nothing about your theory makes sense. And none of it is backed with a scintilla of evidence.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Says who? And again, if the aliens had access to such vast technology, why stone work that neolithic people could have made without them?

Why no metal tools? Did the aliens not know how to smelt metal? Why not more advanced structures? There weren't even arches. Just pillars, the most rudamentary architectural structure after stacking rocks. Why rocks? Didn't the aliens have AT LEAST reinforced concrete?

Instead, the 'aliens' built a structure the neolithic people could have made with stone tools? Why would the aliens even be necessary?

Nothing about your theory makes sense. And none of it is backed with a scintilla of evidence.

You don't know anything. Aliens are millions of years more advanced than us. They had levitation technology. That could explain a lot of stuff. They have telepathy. They have knowledge. I know aliens are real. If an alien came into your house they would have to reeducate you. They would tell you how they helped ancient man and you would come back crying to me and saying I was right.

 

[Skylar]

You don't know anything. Aliens are millions of years more advanced than us. They had levitation technology. That could explain a lot of stuff. They have telepathy. They have knowledge. I know aliens are real. If an alien came into your house they would have to reeducate you. They would tell you how they helped ancient man and you would come back crying to me and saying I was right.

My point exactly. They have technology so advanced that they can traverse stars. Metalurgy, methods of energy generation beyond our undestanding, lighting fast computers that can simulate entire galaxies, an understanding of physics so vast that they can create voidships and interstellar civilizations.

And when they get to earth.......they stacked rocks?

That makes zero sense.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

My point exactly. They have technology so advanced that they can traverse stars. Metalurgy, methods of energy generation beyond our undestanding, lighting fast computers that can simulate entire galaxies, an understanding of physics so vast that they can create voidships and interstellar civilizations.

And when they get to earth.......they stacked rocks?

That makes zero sense.

That doesn't mean that they cannot help a civilization that is just starting.

 

[Skylar]

That doesn't mean that they cannot help a civilization that is just starting.

Help them do something they can already do? Stack rocks?

Again, aliens are completely unnecessary in this scenario. Neolithic people can stack rocks and carve rocks and make all the tools necessary to build Gobekli Tepe. There's nothing there beyond the capacity of a neolithic stone worker.

You show me a 9,000 year old skyscraper, I'm convinced. You show me a 9,000 year old spaceship, I'm convince.

You show me a 9,000 year neolithic stone temple complex built with stone tools, no writing, no metal......I'm not convinced of aliens. As they are unnecessary

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Help them do something they can already do? Stack rocks?

Again, aliens are completely unnecessary in this scenario. Neolithic people can stack rocks and carve rocks and make all the tools necessary to build Gobekli Tepe. There's nothing there beyond the capacity of a neolithic stone worker.

Yeah, except I tried carving rock with stone tools. Doesn't work. I tried many times myself. If I can't do it, prehistoric people can't.