How long will hardcore MAGAs stomach Trump's Forever War in the Middle East?

[Zincwarrior]

Either America wins or Iran wins

Which side are you on?

Bolton is that you?

 

[jacksonlamb]

Either America wins or Iran wins

Which side are you on?

Zincwarrior Bolton is that you?

jacksonlamb Mac-7 is a neo-con..

 

[schmidlap]

You have me all wrong. I was just pointing that in your frenzy to support the ayatollahs, you didn't realize the quote in your post said the reason the IAEA had no clear evidence of the ayatollahs was that the ayatollahs restricted from inspecting suspicious sites. I was just suggesting you should work with someone with a cooler head to avoid blunders of this type in the future.

 

[Lockback]

Leftist morons don't realize that two months is "forever".
They're too stoned to understand time.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Regime is certainly not inevitable, just because Trump wants it. The US would have to put an army of boots on the ground for that to happen, and it won't. No fall of the ayatollahs is inevitable.

Do you not grasp that the regime in Iran has ZERO revenue coming in from the sale of their oil? That they're losing about 450 million dollars a day because of the blockade? Their currency is absolutely worthless. (1.5 million rials to 1 US dollar!) Annual inflation in Iran is 58%. Food inflation is 115%. The US doesn't need to put a single pair of boots on the ground to end this regime. All they need to do is maintain the blockade. The US Navy just moved into the Straight of Hormuz and sunk six of the IRGC fast boats. They're moving to secure that waterway. If any Iranian fast boats put out into that Straight they'll be instantly destroyed. Any missile launch sites will immediately be identified and the launch sites will be destroyed. Any drone swarms sent towards the Straight will be destroyed instantly. Trump has also moved to provide insurance for any merchant shipping transiting the Straight...something that was denied by the regular insurance providers. The Straight is about to be opened. Not for the Iranians though...it will be opened for the rest of the world!

 

[schmidlap]

I'm curious. What do you think the public's reaction will be if Trumps actions cause the overthrow of the mullahs and the IRGC in Iran? This isn't going to be a "forever" war! The blockade will destroy Iran. In a matter of a few months. The people will rise up. The mullahs and the IRGC leadership will tuck tail and run to where ever they've cached all the money they've stolen from the Iranian people. When that happens the price of oil is going to plummet. Do you really not grasp that this is going to happen? There is a reason the stock market is setting new records. Smarter people than you understand that this thing ISN'T going to be going on much longer and that when it's over economies all over the world are going to go CRAZY!

Most Americans, by a large and growing margin, disapprove of Trump's Middle East "little excursion" based upon the reality, not upon your rosy scenario,

Most Americans Disapprove of War With Iran​

 

[EMH]

Obviously you hate Jews and I dont

There is no chance for compromise here

Always with the dumbest most sicko groups it ends with a card toss

BLM says racist
NOW says sexist
GLAAD says homophobic
self proclaimed sub humans say "you hate Jews"

 

[jacksonlamb]

Do you not grasp that the regime in Iran has ZERO revenue coming in from the sale of their oil? That they're losing about 450 million dollars a day because of the blockade? Their currency is absolutely worthless. (1.5 million rials to 1 US dollar!) Annual inflation in Iran is 58%. Food inflation is 115%. The US doesn't need to put a single pair of boots on the ground to end this regime. All they need to do is maintain the blockade. The US Navy just moved into the Straight of Hormuz and sunk six of the IRGC fast boats. They're moving to secure that waterway. If any Iranian fast boats put out into that Straight they'll be instantly destroyed. Any missile launch sites will immediately be identified and the launch sites will be destroyed. Any drone swarms sent towards the Straight will be destroyed instantly. Trump has also moved to provide insurance for any merchant shipping transiting the Straight...something that was denied by the regular insurance providers. The Straight is about to be opened. Not for the Iranians though...it will be opened for the rest of the world!

It's not happening, a regime change, without an American force, a very large one in Iran.

That does not look like it will happen.

 

[schmidlap]

It's not happening, a regime change, without an American force, a very large one in Iran.

That does not look like it will happen.

Nor will Iran's tenacious regime voluntarily surrender its enriched uranium, and it does not look as if Trump is willing to commit the required troops to seizing and securing it.

 

[Man With A Plan]

It's not happening, a regime change, without an American force, a very large one in Iran.

That does not look like it will happen.

You don't know your history, Jackson. Did an outsize force need to move into the USSR at the end of the communist regime? Did an outside force need to move into Cuba when Castro ousted Batista? Did an outside force have to occupy Iran when the Revolutionary Guards overthrew the Shah? Those were all regime changes driven by common people rising up against a regime they felt oppressed by.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Nor will Iran's tenacious regime voluntarily surrender its enriched uranium, and it does not look as if Trump is willing to commit the required troops to seizing and securing it.

Whatever political structure replaces this one will likely be very willing to let the US come and secure that uranium. It hasn't brought anything but pain to the Iranian people.

 

[Mac-7]

Bolton is that you?

Note: another lib who refuses to answer

 

[Zincwarrior]

Note: another lib who refuses to answer

Now thats more like it. Elmer just called me a Trump apologist...

 

[Mac-7]

Most Americans, by a large and growing margin, disapprove of Trump's Middle East "little excursion" based upon the reality, not upon your rosy scenario,

Most Americans Disapprove of War With Iran​

I dont doubt that trump is losing the feet of clay crowd

Previous presidents looked at the Iran problem and saw nothing in it for them personally so they just punted the ball, or kicked the can

Trump is doing the right thing even though he will be punished for it

 

[jacksonlamb]

You don't know your history, Jackson. Did an outsize force need to move into the USSR at the end of the communist regime? Did an outside force need to move into Cuba when Castro ousted Batista? Did an outside force have to occupy Iran when the Revolutionary Guards overthrew the Shah? Those were all regime changes driven by common people rising up against a regime they felt oppressed by.

Neither do you.

Show how any of those events were equitable to Iran now.

You can't and won't.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Whatever political structure replaces this one will likely be very willing to let the US come and secure that uranium. It hasn't brought anything but pain to the Iranian people.

What a silly statement. You don't know the Persians at all.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Neither do you.

Show how any of those events were equitable to Iran now.

You can't and won't.

I just gave you 3 examples of how regime change took place without an outside force occupying a country which is what you claimed the US will have to do in Iran. Why you think that isn't applicable to Iran...you'll have to explain!

 

[Man With A Plan]

What a silly statement. You don't know the Persians at all.

I majored in History. I know about the history of Iran.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I just gave you 3 examples of how regime change took place without an outside force occupying a country which is what you claimed the US will have to do in Iran. Why you think that isn't applicable to Iran...you'll have to explain!

I can't see what you were quoting(the ignore function helps save my brain cells from his fecal spatter), but I can tell you that he'll never explain anything. Except, maybe why he is an idiot.

My suggestion: Ignore

He could care less about America.

 

[jacksonlamb]

I just gave you 3 examples of how regime change took place without an outside force occupying a country which is what you claimed the US will have to do in Iran. Why you think that isn't applicable to Iran...you'll have to explain!

You did not show how it would or could work in Iran.

It won't.