how Israeli archaeology re-writes history

[amity1844]

Palestine-Israel Journal: The Politics of Archeology and Parks in Jerusalem

This article in the Palestine-Israel Journal, a quarterly, details how archaeological digs are constructed to destroy evidence of all eras other than those that elevate Zionist claims of sovereignty:

The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) and the settler Elad organization and the Western Wall Heritage Fund work hand in hand in order to compress the Jewish history into the short periods of Israelite-Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem, while cultural layers that are not associated with Jewish political sovereignty or with the sacrificial cult are ignored. The history of Jerusalem is stripped both of the eras that preceded the Kingdom of Israel, and those that followed when it became the Holy City for the Christians and Al-Quds for the Muslims.

When archaeological finds are used as proof of the state’s historic right to take possession of a given place and to undermine the rights of the local people living there, archaeology has been diverted from its role as an independent field of research. When tour guides in the site of ancient Jerusalem turn it into nothing more than an illustration or backdrop for the biblical stories, without acknowledging the difference between a mythical perspective of the past and the actual archaeological finds, or when they do not acknowledge the rich remains from other cultures and societies that inhabited the place throughout time, they are feeding the tourists a distorted, nationalist version of history.

 

[amity1844]

...and here's a case study:

Israel hears Palestinian objections to archaeological project in Jerusalem and -- approves it!

 

[Sally]

Palestine-Israel Journal: The Politics of Archeology and Parks in Jerusalem

This article in the Palestine-Israel Journal, a quarterly, details how archaeological digs are constructed to destroy evidence of all eras other than those that elevate Zionist claims of sovereignty:

The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) and the settler Elad organization and the Western Wall Heritage Fund work hand in hand in order to compress the Jewish history into the short periods of Israelite-Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem, while cultural layers that are not associated with Jewish political sovereignty or with the sacrificial cult are ignored. The history of Jerusalem is stripped both of the eras that preceded the Kingdom of Israel, and those that followed when it became the Holy City for the Christians and Al-Quds for the Muslims.

When archaeological finds are used as proof of the state’s historic right to take possession of a given place and to undermine the rights of the local people living there, archaeology has been diverted from its role as an independent field of research. When tour guides in the site of ancient Jerusalem turn it into nothing more than an illustration or backdrop for the biblical stories, without acknowledging the difference between a mythical perspective of the past and the actual archaeological finds, or when they do not acknowledge the rich remains from other cultures and societies that inhabited the place throughout time, they are feeding the tourists a distorted, nationalist version of history.

Now isn't that strange because many of the Arabs destroy evidence that the Jews were there. Meanwhile, perhaps Amity can tell us why her new brethren have said that the Western Wall does not really belong to the Jews, but actually belongs to Muslims.

 

[Indeependent]

Yawn!

 

[amity1844]

Another one you didn't read.

But you DO READ, I hope?

 

[Indeependent]

Another one you didn't read.

But you DO READ, I hope?

60 Minutes ran a segment several years ago of Arabs destroying Jewish artifacts on the Mount.
Look, "Arabs destroying" is a phrase that doesn't shock me.
So obviously, you find half of Jewish archeologists being pro-Arab and half being pro-Israeli.
It's a cornucopia of propaganda.

 

[amity1844]

Do you think the destruction of artifacts on temple mount could be the price tag for all the destruction of Palestinian history, homes etc. etc.?

 

[Indeependent]

Do you think the destruction of artifacts on temple mount could be the price tag for all the destruction of Palestinian history, homes etc. etc.?

Considering the destruction of Middle East relics throughout the Arab world, I chalk it up to having no value for life and thus having no value for history.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Perhaps amity and Indee forget the destruction of First Holy Temple in 425 BC, or the Second Holy Temple in 70 AD?

 

[aris2chat]

Another one you didn't read.

But you DO READ, I hope?

60 Minutes ran a segment several years ago of Arabs destroying Jewish artifacts on the Mount.
Look, "Arabs destroying" is a phrase that doesn't shock me.
So obviously, you find half of Jewish archeologists being pro-Arab and half being pro-Israeli.
It's a cornucopia of propaganda.

I've posted dozens of articles about archeology in and around Israel.
Muslims do unauthorized construction and digging on the mount without archeologist being allowed to visit and see that valuable artifacts are not being destroyed. Palestinian's trash from the mount is being sifted through, and they are still making a fuss. Bits have been found, but so much has been lost.

 

[Roudy]

This if course is all a lame attempt at making excuses as to why there is no "Palestinian Arab history" either as artifacts or archeological sites.

Palestinian is an invented identity, circa 1967.

 

[Indeependent]

Perhaps amity and Indee forget the destruction of First Holy Temple in 425 BC, or the Second Holy Temple in 70 AD?

The First Temple by The Babylonians and the Second Temple by The Romans.
Not a pleasant affair.
The Babylonians really wanted the treasure whilst the Romans wanted assimilation.

 

[Phoenall]

Palestine-Israel Journal: The Politics of Archeology and Parks in Jerusalem

This article in the Palestine-Israel Journal, a quarterly, details how archaeological digs are constructed to destroy evidence of all eras other than those that elevate Zionist claims of sovereignty:

The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) and the settler Elad organization and the Western Wall Heritage Fund work hand in hand in order to compress the Jewish history into the short periods of Israelite-Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem, while cultural layers that are not associated with Jewish political sovereignty or with the sacrificial cult are ignored. The history of Jerusalem is stripped both of the eras that preceded the Kingdom of Israel, and those that followed when it became the Holy City for the Christians and Al-Quds for the Muslims.

When archaeological finds are used as proof of the state’s historic right to take possession of a given place and to undermine the rights of the local people living there, archaeology has been diverted from its role as an independent field of research. When tour guides in the site of ancient Jerusalem turn it into nothing more than an illustration or backdrop for the biblical stories, without acknowledging the difference between a mythical perspective of the past and the actual archaeological finds, or when they do not acknowledge the rich remains from other cultures and societies that inhabited the place throughout time, they are feeding the tourists a distorted, nationalist version of history.

Didn't the Palestinians try to destroy all traces of Judaism from Jerusalem by using gravestones to line ditches and allowing animals to be penned up on an ancient Jewish hole site. Then the Waqf have destroyed untold millions of Jewish artefacts since 1967 while living the LIE that the Temple mount is one of islams most holy sites. Yet it is not mentioned in the Koran or the hadiths. It would not be hard to expunge all traces of islam from Jerusalem as they are so few and far between. The main historical sites are all Jewish from the Temple mount to Golgotha and the city walls, there are only two Islamic edifices in the whole of Jerusalem and both of them were derelict a few years back and some muslim decided to create the myth of them being the last mosque visited by Mohamed. No actual evidence apart from they were in the general direction of "over there"

 

[Phoenall]

...and here's a case study:

Israel hears Palestinian objections to archaeological project in Jerusalem and -- approves it!

Did you read your link, the site is of no historical importance as it is outside the Old City. Prior to 1948 it was a Jewish area that the Palestinians stole when Jordan ecvicted all the Jews from Jerusalem. Many of the Palestinian buildings are illegal and built on land earmarked for schools, medical facilities and community projects. What is being built is a visitors centre that would benefit everyone due to visitors coming and needing guides. The Palestinian claims hold about as much water as the claims that Jews converted to islam 2,000 years ago, 600 years before it was invented by Mohamed.




MUST TRY HARDER 2/10

 

[aris2chat]

>> The second Temple was built on the ruins of Solomon's Temple on the Temple mount. A very incomplete description of the plan of the structure built under the direction of Zerubbabel is found in a copy of the original decree by Cyrus (Ezra 6:3-4; 1 Esdras 6:24-25; see Ant. 11.4.6; 99). The Temple was to be a place of sacrifice--so that the altar was to be rebuilt--and was to be ninety feet (i.e., sixty cubits) high and ninety feet wide with three courses of well-polished stones and one of timber. According to The Book of Haggai, the returnees were slow to rebuild the Temple.

The history of the Temple during the Persian and early Hellenistic periods is largely unknown, owing to a lack of sources. Presumably, it still existed and operations went on within it as normal. There is one reference from this period to consider. Josephus claims to quote from a work written by a certain Hecataeus of Abdera, a philosopher who lived in the fourth and third centuries BCE and who wrote a work about the Jews. In his work, Hecataeus describes the Jerusalem Temple (Apion 1.22; 198-99).

The same man describe our city Jerusalem also itself as of a most excellent structure, and very large, and inhabited from the most ancient times. He also discourses of the multitude of men in it, and of the construction of our temple, after the following manner: "There are many strong places and villages (says he) in the country of Judea; but one strong city there is, about fifty furlongs in circumference, which is inhabited by a hundred and twenty thousand men, or thereabouts; they call it Jerusalem. There is about the middle of the city a wall of stone, whose length is five hundred feet (five plethra), and the breadth a hundred cubits, having a pair of gates; wherein there is a square altar, not made of hewn stone, but composed of white stones gathered together, having each side twenty cubits long, and its altitude ten cubits. Hard by it is a large edifice, wherein there is an altar and a lampstand, both of gold, and in weight two talents: upon these there is a light that is never extinguished, either by night or by day. There is no image, nor any thing, nor any donations therein; nothing at all is there planted, neither grove, nor any thing of that sort. The priests abide therein both nights and days, performing certain purifications, and drinking not the least drop of wine while they are in the temple."<<
The Second Temple

 

[Phoenall]

Do you think the destruction of artifacts on temple mount could be the price tag for all the destruction of Palestinian history, homes etc. etc.?

What Palestinian history would than be then as before 1960 the only Palestinian history was Jewish. And don't forget that the destruction of Jewish artefacts has been going on for over 1,000 years

 

[Indeependent]

...and here's a case study:

Israel hears Palestinian objections to archaeological project in Jerusalem and -- approves it!

Did you read your link, the site is of no historical importance as it is outside the Old City. Prior to 1948 it was a Jewish area that the Palestinians stole when Jordan ecvicted all the Jews from Jerusalem. Many of the Palestinian buildings are illegal and built on land earmarked for schools, medical facilities and community projects. What is being built is a visitors centre that would benefit everyone due to visitors coming and needing guides. The Palestinian claims hold about as much water as the claims that Jews converted to islam 2,000 years ago, 600 years before it was invented by Mohamed.




MUST TRY HARDER 2/10

You really believe Amity reads or watches videos?
Of course you don't.

 

[Phoenall]

Do you think the destruction of artifacts on temple mount could be the price tag for all the destruction of Palestinian history, homes etc. etc.?

Considering the destruction of Middle East relics throughout the Arab world, I chalk it up to having no value for life and thus having no value for history.

Islam has no history of its own being a relatively new construct, even the USA has more history than islam. It is a fact that islam had to steal conquered lands history to call their own

 

[aris2chat]

Palestinian Department of Antiquities and Cultural Heritage (DACH) is 20 yrs old.

>>Following the Palestinian-Israeli agreement in 1993, Jericho and Gaza were handed over to Palestinian control. Subsequently in Autumn 1994 and December 1995 the Palestinian National Authority was given control throughout the West Bank and Gaza Strip of several spheres of responsibility, including archaeology in areas A and B.<<



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/landingpage/collection/p15799coll74

http://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/recent-advances-in-palestinian-archaeology/

 

[amity1844]

Do you think the destruction of artifacts on temple mount could be the price tag for all the destruction of Palestinian history, homes etc. etc.?

Considering the destruction of Middle East relics throughout the Arab world, I chalk it up to having no value for life and thus having no value for history.

Well, THAT's certainly not true!

But look, if you can come up with concrete examples, i would like to read more.