how Israeli archaeology re-writes history

amity, not sure exactly what you meant by your above post, but if you want a concrete example to read about the Palestinians destroying relics, you need to look no further than the link you put in your OP.

Further down in it:

Waqf Excavations on the Temple Mount

In 1996, then-Prime Minister Netanyahu authorized the Muslim Waqf to take unilateral initiatives on the Temple Mount, as a goodwill gesture after the embarrassment caused by the mismanagement of riots following the opening of the Western Wall Tunnels, during which 14 Israeli soldiers and 69 Palestinians were killed.

Two months later the Waqf created a mosque on the Temple Mount at the site of the SolomonÂ’s Stables, then another one at the Western Hulda Gate and the rubbles were dumped into the Kidron valley. In 1999, the Waqf created an emergency exit for the mosques, removing 12,000 tons of rubbles potentially containing unchecked archeological pieces. More unchecked excavations done with heavy motorized equipment continued until 2007.

During the Emek Shaveh tour, we were explained that the sifting of the Temple Mount rubbles carried out in the Tzurim valley by archeologists Gabi Barkai and Zachi Zweig was of no archeological value because it was impossible to tell which layer in the original structure any finding belongs to. To illustrate the absurdity of the sifting project, the guide invited us to throw into the unattended pile of rubbles object from our pockets.

Dr. Eilat Mazar, the archeologist who claimed in 2005 that she had found the remains of 10th Century BC King DavidÂ’s Palace, and member of the Committee for the Prevention of Destruction of Antiquities on the Temple Mount, voiced in 2007 a complaint to the Waqf for the digging of a ditch on the northern side, using tractors and without real, professional and careful archaeological supervision, calling it an ongoing contempt for the tremendous archaeological importance of the Temple Mount. Mark Ami-El of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (JCPA) accuses the Waqf of working diligently to erase and destroy every archeological remnant and finding that may testify to any Jewish connection to the Temple Mount. The Waqf intention, he says, is to change the status quo of the place by turning all the areas of the Mount into Muslim holy places, mosques, and prayer areas, preventing any Jewish presence whatsoever in the future. Dr. Mordechai Kedar says these acts are undertaken in the framework of an Arab practice known as "erasing the signs," aimed at eliminating the remnants of any civilization that preceded Islam.

I am curious also about that link as it mentions the Israeli connection as a 'myth'. Do you also agree to this stance?
 
This if course is all a lame attempt at making excuses as to why there is no "Palestinian Arab history" either as artifacts or archeological sites.

Palestinian is an invented identity, circa 1967.

This is so lame, Roudy. Who built absolutely EVERYTHING in Palestine that is older than 120 years, and the vast majority of everything that is older than 70 years? Much has been destroyed, but so much remains. Who built even the very walls around Jerusalem, the old citadels, old mosques and churches and homes in Haifa, Jaffa, Ramle, and every other place? Not Jews.
 
No, I don't agree, but I don't believe they will acknowledge any Israeli claims until Israel acknowledges theirs. You too often ask for unilateral concessions as a prerequisite to even consideration of Israeli concessions. Too often major Christian or Muslim sites have been destroyed by Israeli sponsored archaeologists digging down to a deeper Jewish site of much lesser significance. Once that type of policy is terminated you will find the recognition you want.
 
Too often major Christian or Muslim sites have been destroyed by Israeli sponsored archaeologists digging down to a deeper Jewish site of much lesser significance.

Just curiosity...Now you're an archeologist also?
 
I read it in a book. You ought to try one.
 
Sorry, distracted by Chomsky.

Just well read, I think:

Whitelam, The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/The-Invention-Ancient-Israel-Palestinian/dp/041510758X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356229197&sr=8-1&keywords=The+invention+of+ancient+Israel+%3A+the+silencing+of+Palestinian+history]Amazon.com: The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History (9780415107587): Keith W. Whitelam: Books[/ame]
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Meanwhile, go here and follow links:
The Politics of Archaeology in Israel | **Mythicist Papers

and I think this is another one.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+P...st+Jerusalem+Digging+for+trouble.-a0183561349
 
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This if course is all a lame attempt at making excuses as to why there is no "Palestinian Arab history" either as artifacts or archeological sites.

Palestinian is an invented identity, circa 1967.

This is so lame, Roudy. Who built absolutely EVERYTHING in Palestine that is older than 120 years, and the vast majority of everything that is older than 70 years? Much has been destroyed, but so much remains. Who built even the very walls around Jerusalem, the old citadels, old mosques and churches and homes in Haifa, Jaffa, Ramle, and every other place? Not Jews.
I'm still waiting for you to come up with some examples of Palestinian Arab Muslim artifacts or archeological sites, that is, after you remove your head from Uranus.

Still nothing, eh? :lmao:
 
"The invention of ancient Israel"? Ha ha ha ho ho ho! Please keep up the entertainment, convert.
 
Already did. And add to the list practically everything in Israel older than 100 years.
I provided I think a total of 4 articles and two book references. If you can't read then get someone yo read them to you.
But my posts aren't for your benefit and I'm busy with something now, Roudy.

The only clue I'll give you is that the thesis is that the character of ancient Israel is distorted, certainly not that it didn't exist.
It did exist.
 
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Already did. And add to the list practically everything in Israel older than 100 years.
I provided I think a total of 4 articles and two book references. If you can't read then get someone yo read them to you.
But my posts aren't for your benefit and I'm busy with something now, Roudy.

The only clue I'll give you is that the thesis is that the character of ancient Israel is distorted, certainly not that it didn't exist.
It did exist.
The distortion is going on in your brain, convert. If Israel is an invention then the moon is made of Feta Cheese. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I can't wait to hear another of your ridiculously funny claims. Please don't keep us waiting. Go do some more "research" and make sure you get back to us! :rofl:
 
Nobody said ancient Israel wasn't real.
You'll just have to read the article to understand his thesis.
 
Nobody said ancient Israel wasn't real.
You'll just have to read the article to understand his thesis.
Ancient Israel is based on the concept of ancient Zionism, which is what modern Zionism is based on, both of which are inseparable from Judaism.

You're just a desperate moron searching the Internet for anything negative you can find on Israel. :cuckoo:

Keep embarrassing yourself. :clap2:
 
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This is all part of the big picture, Roudy. I am focusing on topics I already know something about. I read a lot.

Ancient Israel is based on the concept of ancient Zionism, which is what modern Zionism is based on, both of which are inseparable from Judaism.

That's what Zionism says. They poured into your head that everything that

That assertion about Zionism doesn't make sense really. Ancient Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with modern Zionism.

By the way, one of the misuses of archaeology for Zionist purposes is the "Europeanizing" of ancient Israel., which the book talks about
That is not in accordance with archaeological findings. Israel was a typical middle eastern potentate of the times virtually indistinguishable from their neighbors.
 
This is all part of the big picture, Roudy. I am focusing on topics I already know something about. I read a lot.

Ancient Israel is based on the concept of ancient Zionism, which is what modern Zionism is based on, both of which are inseparable from Judaism.

That's what Zionism says. They poured into your head that everything that

That assertion about Zionism doesn't make sense really. Ancient Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with modern Zionism.

By the way, one of the misuses of archaeology for Zionist purposes is the "Europeanizing" of ancient Israel., which the book talks about
That is not in accordance with archaeological findings. Israel was a typical middle eastern potentate of the times virtually indistinguishable from their neighbors.

You have stated several times that you know NOTHING about Islam or the Torah.
You are trying to separate, in a secular manner, the history of two peoples from their religion.
It doesn't work that way.
And I must say that the US and the West in general have been making the same mistake for decades.
 
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No, I know very little about Islam, read a couple of books. I did take an Islamic history course as an undergrad but that is about it.

I know more about the Torah, obviously. And I have read a good bit of Jewish history.
 
No, I know very little about Islam, read a couple of books. I did take an Islamic history course as an undergrad but that is about it.

I know more about the Torah, obviously. And I have read a good bit of Jewish history.

You know more about the Torah than you do about Islam; a relative statement.
I'll buy that.
Unfortunately, as you said yourself, you know very little about Islam
 
That is true, and don't bother trying to teach me either!

Now the thread of this topic is archaeology.

Any comments about archaeology?
 
That is true, and don't bother trying to teach me either!

Now the thread of this topic is archaeology.

Any comments about archaeology?
Yes, yes, show us some Arab Palestinian artifacts and archeological sites.

What? You can't find any? It's the Joooooos fault! Ha ha ha.
 

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