JLW
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Me..Your logic is totally nonsensical. It is because your position is so weak you can’t defend it except by spewing complete asininity.
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How Do You Know Voting By Mail Works? The Military Has Been Doing It Since The Civil War
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Remodeling Maidiac
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My position was spelled out clearly at the beginning of the thread and it has nothing to do with Trump. You've been playing mental gymnastics trying to tie it to trump.
You're either willfully stupid or mentally challenged.
daveman
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Hey, remember the time Hillary lost -- the second time, I mean -- and the left kollektively decided we should do away with the Electoral College?
daveman
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leftists: YOU HAVE TO SHOW PAPERS TO PROVE UR ALLOWED TO GO OUTSIDE
also leftists: NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE TO SHOW AN ID TO VOTE THATS RACIST
/——/ Actually Al Bore’s lawyers got the military votes tossed in the Florida recount because the individual ballots did not have a post mark, only the mail bag they came in did. So you see, it’s not a good system. But being 9 years old, you would remember that.WASHINGTON — The nation in crisis. A divisive president up for re-election. Millions of Americans who can't make it to their local polling place. Partisan fights over proposals to vote by mail.
Sound familiar?
It was the 1860s, the Civil War was raging and Republicans, led by President Abraham Lincoln, wanted to let Union soldiers vote from the battlefield. The opposition Democrats balked. They warned of rampant fraud and "a scheme" by Republicans "to gain some great advantage to their party," as one Wisconsin state senator put it before the legislature voted on party lines to become the first state to legalize absentee voting.
About 150,000 of the 1 million Union soldiers were able to vote absentee in the 1864 presidential election in what became the first widespread use of non-in-person voting in American history.
A century and a half later, amidst a new debate over voting by mail as the country prepares to hold an election during a different kind of war — this one against the coronavirus — America's long history of letting soldiers vote from far-flung war zones shows the issue has always been controversial, but that the worst fears of critics have never come to pass.
It's now easier in some ways for a Marine in Afghanistan to vote than it is for an American stuck at home during the COVID-19 lockdown. And some lawmakers and advocates want to use the rules that lets that Marine cast a ballot as a model for how all Americans could vote in the November presidential election if the pandemic continues.
How do you know voting by mail works? The U.S. military's done it since the Civil War.
Advocates and lawmakers believe it could be a model for November because of coronavirus.www.nbcnews.com
Coming to your state soon.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/w...in-voting-expects-safe-convention-81880645593
People die and people move, and those ballots just keep coming to the same old address.
It really isn't more complicated than that.
Yep...forgery, it's done in every election.
The board does not have the time to go through the 'public information' at that that scale, or funding to cross reference.
Not to mention out and out fraud.
So going to leave it up to a union worker to do the job? A person who may not be familiar with all the names on his route, or a large apt/condo complex?
A person who isn't certified for getting it right? Are you going to make a criminal out of that letter carrier if he screws up?
Serioususername
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That doesn't mean people are sending it in, or that they're counted if they are sent in. Normal folks aren't just randomly going to attempt voter fraud. What you're implying is nonsense and nothing ever backs it up as far as I can remember off the top of my head.
You keep saying these things, but more or less every study says voter fraud is such a miniscule problem that it legitimately isn't worth mentioning. It rarely actually succeededs and the times it does it doesn't change squat.
The opportunity shouldn't be there..........PERIOD.
It doesn't need to be there. There is no way to quantify how much goes on, they only can go by what has been discovered.
DGS49
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Nobody knows how military votes work out. There is no way to trace them and make sure every one arrived and was counted.
All you really need to know about Vote-by-Mail is that the "Usual Suspects" support it vigorously. Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer...you know the ones.
THIS Republican will go along with it as long as there are reasonable and rational rules established, to wit:
With those rules I would support it.
All you really need to know about Vote-by-Mail is that the "Usual Suspects" support it vigorously. Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer...you know the ones.
THIS Republican will go along with it as long as there are reasonable and rational rules established, to wit:
- The COUNTIES mail ballots to currently registered voters (those registered people who do not receive a ballot - or people who are registering for the first time - can get it from the relevant County, once their registration is confirmed);
- Every ballot has a unique alpha-numeric ID, traceable to THAT VOTER;
- Every mail-in ballot must be accompanied by a photocopy of a state-issued photo-ID, with a visible signature (state will make copies, free of charge, for those who need this service);
- Every ballot received must be cross-referenced with the alpha-numeric ID, and the signatures verified;
- It is a summary offense to mail someone else's ballot, or to ask a non-family member to mail your ballot; and those ballots are DQ'd;
- It is a summary offense to both mail-in and vote in person.
With those rules I would support it.
The only time I questioned the validity of an election was in a local one back in the 1990's. The city wanted to extend the mayor's term (and perhaps the council's? I forget) from 2 years to 4 years. It had been voted down a couple of times previously. The weekend before the vote, campaign signs went up for "Vote Yes for Strict Term Limits". Completely bogus slant of the issue because our city already limited the mayor to 2 consecutive terms. Then when I went to my assigned polling place, a half mile from my house, my name wasn't on the voting register. After my protest I was given a provisional ballot. Didn't hear anything for a few months but finally got a letter in the mail from election officials saying they were in error and that my vote SHOULD HAVE BEEN counted.
Our local elections are non-partisan but the area was heavily Republican as were its city leaders.
Besides the convenience this experience is main reason I signed up for early voting. Participants signatures are required, not on the ballot but on the provided return envelope. It is then possible to go to the election website a few days later to see if signature matched and thus the ballot accepted.
Our local elections are non-partisan but the area was heavily Republican as were its city leaders.
Besides the convenience this experience is main reason I signed up for early voting. Participants signatures are required, not on the ballot but on the provided return envelope. It is then possible to go to the election website a few days later to see if signature matched and thus the ballot accepted.
odanny
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You're absolutely right, but conservatives have kept that zombie lie alive simply to discredit this voting process, which in turn, helps them to win elections.
It is essentially reverse voter fraud by Republicans.
Serioususername
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Ideally sure, but you can say that about all bad things. And thus by your logic the things we do do, should be far more limited, just because the possibility for abuse or whatever exists and it shouldn't.
Daryl Hunt
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We have both in person and mail-in voting. Believe it or not, there are more problems with the In Person than the mail-in by far. Colorado does an after election audit where all ballots are checked. There were only two fraudulent votes done in 2018 and one was done by the Head of the State Republican Party who filled out his divorced Wife(She lives in another state and voted there) and one other who also was a republican who filled out someone elses vote. Both were bagged. There is more of a chance of voting in person to be fraudulent than by mail-in because it's harder to stop the fake IDs.
I mail-in voted 4 times while in the Military in the major elections and it went well. I mail-in vote now. If any "Side" is wanting to stop mail-in voting from happening you should ask your self how they are cheating now without it.
Daryl Hunt
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WASHINGTON — The nation in crisis. A divisive president up for re-election. Millions of Americans who can't make it to their local polling place. Partisan fights over proposals to vote by mail.
Sound familiar?
It was the 1860s, the Civil War was raging and Republicans, led by President Abraham Lincoln, wanted to let Union soldiers vote from the battlefield. The opposition Democrats balked. They warned of rampant fraud and "a scheme" by Republicans "to gain some great advantage to their party," as one Wisconsin state senator put it before the legislature voted on party lines to become the first state to legalize absentee voting.
About 150,000 of the 1 million Union soldiers were able to vote absentee in the 1864 presidential election in what became the first widespread use of non-in-person voting in American history.
A century and a half later, amidst a new debate over voting by mail as the country prepares to hold an election during a different kind of war — this one against the coronavirus — America's long history of letting soldiers vote from far-flung war zones shows the issue has always been controversial, but that the worst fears of critics have never come to pass.
It's now easier in some ways for a Marine in Afghanistan to vote than it is for an American stuck at home during the COVID-19 lockdown. And some lawmakers and advocates want to use the rules that lets that Marine cast a ballot as a model for how all Americans could vote in the November presidential election if the pandemic continues.
How do you know voting by mail works? The U.S. military's done it since the Civil War.
Advocates and lawmakers believe it could be a model for November because of coronavirus.
Coming to your state soon.
DNC Chair has faith in mail-in voting, expects safe convention
If you can go out to the park for a walk, shop for groceries or open your door and walk outside then you can vote at a voting booth.
We used to have voting booths just down the street. In the last two elections, they weren't there. We have a lot of elderly people who can't drive. The nearest voting booths are over 3 miles away. One of the ways to rig an election is to shut down voting booths in the areas that may not vote the way you want them to vote and make it harder for those of a certain group to vote. No matter which side does it, it's rigging the elections. Mail-in votes stop this nonsense.
Daryl Hunt
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WASHINGTON — The nation in crisis. A divisive president up for re-election. Millions of Americans who can't make it to their local polling place. Partisan fights over proposals to vote by mail.
Sound familiar?
It was the 1860s, the Civil War was raging and Republicans, led by President Abraham Lincoln, wanted to let Union soldiers vote from the battlefield. The opposition Democrats balked. They warned of rampant fraud and "a scheme" by Republicans "to gain some great advantage to their party," as one Wisconsin state senator put it before the legislature voted on party lines to become the first state to legalize absentee voting.
About 150,000 of the 1 million Union soldiers were able to vote absentee in the 1864 presidential election in what became the first widespread use of non-in-person voting in American history.
A century and a half later, amidst a new debate over voting by mail as the country prepares to hold an election during a different kind of war — this one against the coronavirus — America's long history of letting soldiers vote from far-flung war zones shows the issue has always been controversial, but that the worst fears of critics have never come to pass.
It's now easier in some ways for a Marine in Afghanistan to vote than it is for an American stuck at home during the COVID-19 lockdown. And some lawmakers and advocates want to use the rules that lets that Marine cast a ballot as a model for how all Americans could vote in the November presidential election if the pandemic continues.
How do you know voting by mail works? The U.S. military's done it since the Civil War.
Advocates and lawmakers believe it could be a model for November because of coronavirus.
Coming to your state soon.
DNC Chair has faith in mail-in voting, expects safe convention
Here's just one example of how easy it would be to cheat. I'll use a fictional voter not to offend anyone.
Let's say a rapid whackjob leftist Spews14 moves to a new apartment 3 months before the election. He changes his address. He then receives his official ballot at the new place. He also receives a ballot of the former tenant. Spews14 is such a demented leftist he believes the world will end if Trump gets another 4 years he votes for Quid Pro Joe a second time and mails it in.
Now how does the election commitee know Spews14 cheated?
The Previous Occupant will vote at his new location. And it will be bagged in the Election Audit. Spews14 is in serious trouble at that point. If you State does not do any Election Audits (some don't, mostly red states) then you need to fire the lot of them.
esalla
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How does the Navy get the mail off of a submarine at sea?WASHINGTON — The nation in crisis. A divisive president up for re-election. Millions of Americans who can't make it to their local polling place. Partisan fights over proposals to vote by mail.
Sound familiar?
It was the 1860s, the Civil War was raging and Republicans, led by President Abraham Lincoln, wanted to let Union soldiers vote from the battlefield. The opposition Democrats balked. They warned of rampant fraud and "a scheme" by Republicans "to gain some great advantage to their party," as one Wisconsin state senator put it before the legislature voted on party lines to become the first state to legalize absentee voting.
About 150,000 of the 1 million Union soldiers were able to vote absentee in the 1864 presidential election in what became the first widespread use of non-in-person voting in American history.
A century and a half later, amidst a new debate over voting by mail as the country prepares to hold an election during a different kind of war — this one against the coronavirus — America's long history of letting soldiers vote from far-flung war zones shows the issue has always been controversial, but that the worst fears of critics have never come to pass.
It's now easier in some ways for a Marine in Afghanistan to vote than it is for an American stuck at home during the COVID-19 lockdown. And some lawmakers and advocates want to use the rules that lets that Marine cast a ballot as a model for how all Americans could vote in the November presidential election if the pandemic continues.
How do you know voting by mail works? The U.S. military's done it since the Civil War.
Advocates and lawmakers believe it could be a model for November because of coronavirus.
Coming to your state soon.
DNC Chair has faith in mail-in voting, expects safe convention
two_iron
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Ahh, skews you fucked up.... again. Imagine that. Everything you touch turns to shit. That's got to get old.... huh, buddy?
From one of YOUR communist sites (don't blame the right, fucknuts!)
Some Military Votes May Not Be Counted
This happens a lot. So your whole premise gets flushed down the shitter. When was the last time you had any kind of success in your miserable existence? Sad. Lick my taint and I'll give 4 or 5 more links to the exact same problem.
From one of YOUR communist sites (don't blame the right, fucknuts!)
Some Military Votes May Not Be Counted
This happens a lot. So your whole premise gets flushed down the shitter. When was the last time you had any kind of success in your miserable existence? Sad. Lick my taint and I'll give 4 or 5 more links to the exact same problem.
Redcurtain
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You won’t get mail in votes so you can cheat. Move onWASHINGTON — The nation in crisis. A divisive president up for re-election. Millions of Americans who can't make it to their local polling place. Partisan fights over proposals to vote by mail.
Sound familiar?
It was the 1860s, the Civil War was raging and Republicans, led by President Abraham Lincoln, wanted to let Union soldiers vote from the battlefield. The opposition Democrats balked. They warned of rampant fraud and "a scheme" by Republicans "to gain some great advantage to their party," as one Wisconsin state senator put it before the legislature voted on party lines to become the first state to legalize absentee voting.
About 150,000 of the 1 million Union soldiers were able to vote absentee in the 1864 presidential election in what became the first widespread use of non-in-person voting in American history.
A century and a half later, amidst a new debate over voting by mail as the country prepares to hold an election during a different kind of war — this one against the coronavirus — America's long history of letting soldiers vote from far-flung war zones shows the issue has always been controversial, but that the worst fears of critics have never come to pass.
It's now easier in some ways for a Marine in Afghanistan to vote than it is for an American stuck at home during the COVID-19 lockdown. And some lawmakers and advocates want to use the rules that lets that Marine cast a ballot as a model for how all Americans could vote in the November presidential election if the pandemic continues.
How do you know voting by mail works? The U.S. military's done it since the Civil War.
Advocates and lawmakers believe it could be a model for November because of coronavirus.
Coming to your state soon.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/w...in-voting-expects-safe-convention-81880645593
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