How do we get out of this?

[gipper]

When you say stupid shit like "orange messiah,

you are projecting the way you think about political leaders.

I support Trump POLITICALLY.

Keep your weirdness to yourself please.


If you have a real question, ask away.

Okay...how about Zionist Treasonous Dumb Don?

 

[Care4all]

mac when did you decide that your shit dont stink?..

Oh, Democrat shit stinks, just not nearly as much as the head honcho who has all the power to blow the stench world wide....and has done so.

This is not about the democrats not sucking wind.....imo.

 

[berg80]

Trump could control Iran's oil/money flow, so that means he calls the shots, no money means no power.

Interesting that you bring that up. Bessent says the US is "allowing" Iranian tankers thru the strait. The regime has decided to let Russia sell its oil on the world market.

The material affect being two of our biggest enemies are receiving revenue from oil sales so trump doesn't have to bear the political consequences for his ill conceived decision to attack Iran. And he gets to do a favor for his friend Vlad. Who is helping Iran with intel to target US troops. A stable genius trump is not.

 

[kyzr]

To an ignoramus who is a dupe of the state, any criticism of the state is seen as treasonous. Heil Hitler!!!!
You'll do well in our Orwellian dystopian future. PUZZY!!!!!!

You can criticize the state all you want with facts, but not enemy propaganda.

 

[Nostra]

Quite the opposite!

Seems like Democrats are ALWAYS left with cleaning up the mess that Republicans cause....

Hoover's mess, FDR saved the day

Reagan/Bush1 Budget overspending mess, Clinton reigned in the deficit spending

GW Bush housing bust and bank crisis, Obama had the clean up

Lies

 

[gipper]

You can criticize the state all you want with facts, but not enemy propaganda.

What is enemy propaganda? Can you give me an example?

 

[Darkwind]

Disagree. Letting the IRGC and Jihadists in-charge of Iran is a bad idea.

Trump could control Iran's oil and money and dictate policy and government changes.
Reza Pahlavi and the non-religious leaders could then run the country until elections could happen.

Not as "head of state", but as a temporary advisor with other "council" members.

The problem is that this enters the nation-building space, and there will never be a good enough justification for it in the Middle East again.

Best to just bomb them into the Stone Age every 4 years or so.

 

[kyzr]

What happens when the media reports the truth in authoritarian countries? The state shuts it down.
What happens when the media reports the truth in the US? Brendan Carr threatens to shut it down.

Biased reporting is not the "truth"

Ellison should straighten out that leftist propaganda network without Carr doing anything.

 

[the other mike]

Make Russia our ally ....

The enemy is within....

 

[Correll]

Yep and it's getting scarier by the day.

They aren't just different, they want to push their agenda on the rest of society.
A little religion never hurt anyone.
The fanatics and $$$ changers, ruined religion.

As opposed to lefties who DON'T want to push their agenda on the rest of society?

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah, lefties pretend to care about human rights, but they don't want people different then them, to have the right to participate in the political process.

WTF?

You fight with what you have.

Just an excuse to excuse Iran for their action, their ILLEGAL action in shutting down an international waterway and causing economic hardship to the ENTIRE WORLD.


You give a pass to the enemy of your people. To the barbarian trying to burn the world down, you give him a pass and attack someone else for their actions.

Sounds just like Trump's cult.
Baby steps, the first thing is recognizing it.
Good job.

NOpe. I don't hold Trump responsible for the world, or for the actions of IRan.

YOU do that. YOU put him in that role, not me. We are discussing YOUR world view.

I hold IRAN responsible for the actions of IRAN.

In MY world view, IRAN is the bad guy here, who is trying to harm the whole world, becasue they are losing a war.

NO, it isn't.

They tried.
Trump as usual, didn't listen.
Now he whines.

If Iran got a nuke, you would blame him for that too. If Iran USED a nuke and started a nuclear war in the ME, leading to permanent damage to the whole world, you would blame him for that too. He is your BIG DADDY.

I would blame IRAN, btw. You know, since it would be THEIR actions.

So, Trump got his feelings hurt by the rest of the world, now Trump is the crying snowflake.

Is he? If so, he should keep a stiff upper lip.

More to the point, is whether or not the Straits are open. And those who are there to try to keep it open, are the ADULTS IN THE ROOM, and those that sit on the sidelines, with their hurt feel feels, are the spoiled children.

And those that shut down the straights, are the barbarians.


What should civilized men, do with barbarians who threaten them and their families?

 

[Correll]

I think it is because once they admit to one lie, they have to really consider ALL the lies.

Then their entire existence has to be questioned and they have to look inward as to why they are just gullible lying bags of trash.

Much easier to scream, “TRUUUUUUMP!”

The COVID shot lie is a master class in Mass Formation Psychosis.

Everyone who got the shot, GOT COVID. THEY KNOW IT WAS A LIE THAT THE SHOT WAS “SAFE AND EFFECTIVE”.

They refuse to address being lied to, spreading the lie, and OTHERING those who lived in reality and casting them into the cornfield.

It is really amazing Orwell nailed it in 1948.

One could cite ACTUAL MEDICAL RESEARCH ON mRNA experimental gene therapy….AND THEY WOULD BE BANNED FOR SPREADING “MALINFORMATION”.

Malinformation is schitt that is TRUE, but is BAD TO KNOW.

Only a Commie would dream up that bullshit.

Agreed.


Future generations will look at this time period, in much the same way that we look at the salem witch trials. MASS HYSTERIA.

 

[Correll]

Okay...how about Zionist Treasonous Dumb Don?

I gave you a choice, between asking a real question like a real person or spamming negs like a partisan asshole.


You choose what kind of person to be today.

 

[kyzr]

What is enemy propaganda? Can you give me an example?

I watch CNN occasionally and see no GOP opinions only anti-Trump biased opinions.
Here is a link to the CNN staff. They are mostly left leaning anti-Trump, I'm not seeing any right-leaning conservatives.
All of their dialogue is leftist and anti-Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/profiles/faces-of-cnn

 

[berg80]

The straight is now open, so MSNOW is flat wrong.

A fresh wave of attacks on the United Arab Emirates’ energy infrastructure has ramped up concerns over prolonged supply disruptions amid the Iran war.

It comes after the world’s largest ultra-sour gas development was struck by a drone, a fire broke out in the UAE’s Fujairah Oil Industry Zone, and another tanker was hit near the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz.

Iran targets UAE energy infrastructure as gas field set ablaze, tanker struck near Strait of Hormuz

Oil prices advanced on Tuesday as energy market participants monitored Middle East supply disruptions.

www.cnbc.com

Black is white, up is down, Dotard is good at strategery, and the strait is open. You've earned a "Stable Genius" lapel pin.

 

[kyzr]

The problem is that this enters the nation-building space, and there will never be a good enough justification for it in the Middle East again.
Best to just bomb them into the Stone Age every 4 years or so.

That is Plan-B, to "mow the grass" every so often when they misbehave.

If Trump can control their oil and money flows he should be able to effect policy changes if not regime change.

 

[berg80]

Ellison should straighten out that leftist propaganda network without Carr doing anything.

"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." ―The Liar-in-Chief, 2018

People like yourself have proven themselves to be extremely useful to the regime.

 

[Darkwind]

That is Plan-B, to "mow the grass" every so often when they misbehave.

If Trump can control their oil and money flows he should be able to effect policy changes if not regime change.

I'm honestly thinking that the Straight issue has caught both Trump and Hegseth off guard.

They should have had an answer ready and deployed by now.

They need to blanket the desert and take out any anti-ship ordinance out there along with a notice to everyone in the region.

That announcement should be:

Only oil tanker traffic will be permitted to move, and any and all other vessels on the water will be destroyed.

That should end the threat of mines and air attack.

 

[Darkwind]

"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." ―The Liar-in-Chief, 2018

People like yourself have proven themselves to be extremely useful to the regime.

People like you have turned out to be extremely useful to America's enemies.

 

[ColonelAngus]

This Iran thing will turn into a long term thing.

It is what the government does.

PATRIOT ACT
2 WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE.
IRAQ WAR

So many lies of TEMPORARY bad things that turned LONG TERM.

I will be SHOCKED if we get out in a couple weeks

We should turn focus on Cuba. I am super happy that commie regime is about to cease.

CUBA LIBRE!

 

[Billiejeens]

Relevant reading...

Copyright © 2026 The Ron Paul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.

''As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff, Defense Intelligence Agency, and NSA were simply bypassed because, as White House Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said, President Trump “had a feeling” Iran would attack.

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.

Also, arms control experts at home, according to the RS report, believe that “the duo appeared to have fatally misunderstood a series of basic technical and historical matters” regarding Iran’s nuclear program leading to inaccurate information conveyed to the President.

Congress was completely out of the picture – seemingly uninterested in performing its Constitutional duty – and no case was made to the American people that they must sacrifice and die once again for a war in the Middle East.

Trump’s repeated promises to not start new wars, especially in the Middle East, have turned out to be empty, and Republicans are set for a crippling defeat in the upcoming midterm elections.

Iran had been warning for months – since the last US/Israeli surprise attack in June – that if they were attacked again they would not hold back on US bases in the region and that they would close the Straits of Hormuz. Trump and Netanyahu attacked anyway, and Iran has done what it said it would do.

Now the Strait of Hormuz is closed, oil is about to go out of control, and the global economy – along with the US dollar – seems about to implode.

On March 6th, President Trump refused a UK offer of help, saying we don’t need help when we’ve already won the war. Five days later, at a rally in Kentucky, President Trump repeated that “We’ve won the Iran war!”

It was his “Mission Accomplished” moment, because this weekend, just days after declaring victory against an “obliterated” Iran, Trump began begging other countries to send ships to help the US open the Strait of Hormuz.

Thus far every country has declined, understanding that such a mission has little chance of success.

Tragically, the war thus far has claimed at least 14 servicemembers. It is likely the toll is far worse than they are telling us. Every US military facility in the region is either damaged or destroyed. Billions of dollars of radar and other equipment are destroyed. Our allies in the region, because they allowed their territory to be used to attack Iran, have also seen massive retaliatory destruction.

This is surely one of the worst military disasters in US history. There are no military options available beyond the unthinkable: the use of nuclear weapons.

The only viable option that remains is one that was often urged in the Vietnam War: Just get out. Now! No return to US bases, no security guarantees to Gulf States. End the US empire in the Middle East and elsewhere. If not, it’s only going to get worse.''


Author: Ron Paul

Just Get Out! Now! - The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity

As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff...

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