How come no mention of the fall of the Temple in A.D. 70 in the NT?

[The Irish Ram]

Christianity or the Romans who wrote it

Except for Paul, who was a Jew, and Peter, who was a Jew, and Matthew, and John, and the others. The whole book was written by Jews, about Jews, except for Luke.
Read Revelation and then get ready. Trouble is heading your way like the Jews have never seen before.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Christianity or the Romans who wrote it

Except for Paul, who was a Jew, and Peter, who was a Jew, and Matthew, and John, and the others. The whole book was written by Jews, about Jews, except for Luke.
Read Revelation and then get ready. Trouble is heading your way like the Jews have never seen before.

I am 99.9% convinced Priscilla wrote Hebrews and she was a gentile.


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[The Irish Ram]

I'm not convinced. I believe Hebrews needed to be written by someone with personal knowledge of being Jewish. But Priscilla had an active ministry, so it is possible.

 

[Picaro]

Paul was a Pharisee, and thus well read and informed, and I'm certain John was as well, though it's never said directly in the NT. The Pharisees were also a sect that had its own 'Apocalyptic' mysteries,, hence my opinion re John. I'm also certain he was the same 'John' that was the author of Revelations, again my opinion only.

 

[Picaro]

wow. There you go again with your perverse obsessions with butt rape, puppies, faggots, fetishes, ..

In other words, you know what you deviants are, and wish people would stop pointing it out. Thanks for whining about it. Of course, those Jewish racists heavily favoring the post-exilic 'racial purity' farce over the OT covenants have always hated Da Evul Xians for daring refusing to obey their commands, indulging in mass murder for centuries and joining up with their Muslim brothers in invading and oppressing North Africa, Spain, and huge parts of India, while trying to peddle the Big Lie that they have always been hapless innocents or something and dose Evul Xians just hate and kill them for no reason n stuff', when in fact that wasn't even close to whole story, hence you and your fellow racists' love for promoting faggotry and anything else that helps smear those Xians. You certainly can't have that, either, right?

It's easy to spot you and your deviant cronies, since your agenda is easily spotted, and you fit it to a T, as do all of you freaks.

THE OVERHAULING OF STRAIGHT AMERICA -  By Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill

 

[BreezeWood]

wow. There you go again with your perverse obsessions with butt rape, puppies, faggots, fetishes, ..

In other words, you know what you deviants are, and wish people would stop pointing it out. Thanks for whining about it. Of course, those Jewish racists heavily favoring the post-exilic 'racial purity' farce over the OT covenants have always hated Da Evul Xians for daring refusing to obey their commands, indulging in mass murder for centuries and joining up with their Muslim brothers in invading and oppressing North Africa, Spain, and huge parts of India, while trying to peddle the Big Lie that they have always been hapless innocents or something and dose Evul Xians just hate and kill them for no reason n stuff', when in fact that wasn't even close to whole story, hence you and your fellow racists' love for promoting faggotry and anything else that helps smear those Xians. You certainly can't have that, either, right?

It's easy to spot you and your deviant cronies, since your agenda is easily spotted, and you fit it to a T, as do all of you freaks.

THE OVERHAULING OF STRAIGHT AMERICA - By Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill

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and wish people would stop pointing it out.

having not died for anyone's sins and never claiming to be the Almighty and asserting the triumph over evil as the means for admission to the Everlasting, the significance is not being undermined by secular reasoning but by the fallacies of 4th century christianity that worships there own misguided bible than the truth for the death that occurred and the injustice that has yet to be exacted for the crime committed.

people that have persisted throughout history in deference to the horrid histories of all three desert religions are themselves culpable for those crimes whether religious or secular being the same against the prevailing injustice that is perpetuated from the untimely end to the events of the 1st century.

 

[U2Edge]

The Roman Emperor Constantine convened the First Council of Nicea, when the books of the bible were chosen for the "official" text. Many, many holy texts were rejected.

Maybe the fact that ROMANS were "publishing" this work had something to do with keeping mum on that horrific act of senseless destruction?

I have no idea, but remember that what is in the Bible is not all the holy texts of the period.

The books and letters of the New Testament all come from the first century AD. The books excluded were later additions from the 2nd and 3rd centuries.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Roman Emperor Constantine convened the First Council of Nicea, when the books of the bible were chosen for the "official" text. Many, many holy texts were rejected.

Maybe the fact that ROMANS were "publishing" this work had something to do with keeping mum on that horrific act of senseless destruction?

I have no idea, but remember that what is in the Bible is not all the holy texts of the period.

The books and letters of the New Testament all come from the first century AD. The books excluded were later additions from the 2nd and 3rd centuries.

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The deuterocanonical books (from the Greek meaning "belonging to the second canon") are books and passages considered by the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church to be canonical books of the Old Testament but which are considered non-canonical by Protestant denominations. They are books from the Septuagint, the standard translation of the Hebrew Bible in the Hellenistic period, written during the reign of Ptolemy II (283–246 BCE) and referenced extensively in the New Testament, particularly in the Pauline Epistles. With the rise of Rabbinic Judaism at the end of the Second Temple Period, the Hebrew Canon was in flux, until the Masoretic Text, compiled between the 7th and 10th centuries, became the authoritative text of the mainstream Rabbinic Judaism. The Masoretic Text excluded the seven deuterocanonical books and formed the basis for their exclusion in the Protestant Old Testament. The term distinguished these texts both from those that were termed protocanonical books, which were the books of the Hebrew canon; and from the apocryphal books, which were those books of Jewish origin that were known sometimes to have been read in church as scripture but which were considered not to be canonical.


just one example of the multiple considerations and exclusions when writing the christian bible in the 4th century ... involving books from all time frames.

or why their bible was even written four centuries after the fact without a single dated original copy for any of their inclusion nor anything pend by the main character or authenticated copies etched in stone.

and was the document used to establish the church of the roman empire ... the very authority that was responsible for the verdict for the main character with their trials conclusion.

 

[irosie91]

Christianity or the Romans who wrote it

Except for Paul, who was a Jew, and Peter, who was a Jew, and Matthew, and John, and the others. The whole book was written by Jews, about Jews, except for Luke.
Read Revelation and then get ready. Trouble is heading your way like the Jews have never seen before.

John is a pen name in the NT. Paul was the son of converts and very Hellenized,
Matthew is a bit mysterious as to background----and Luke was a greek thru and thru

 

[surada]

I am curious about that one now..



(This is an estimate no exact year is possible)



New Testament

James--A.D. 44-49
Galatians--A.D. 49-50
Matthew--A.D. 50-60
Mark--A.D. 50-60
1 Thessalonians--A.D. 51
2 Thessalonians--A.D. 51-52
1 Corinthians--A.D. 55
2 Corinthians--A.D. 55-56
Romans-- A.D. 56
Luke--A.D. 60-61
Ephesians--A.D. 60-62
Philippians--A.D. 60-62
Philemon--A.D. 60-62
Colossians--A.D. 60-62
Acts--A.D. 62
1 Timothy--A.D. 62-64
Titus--A.D. 62-64
1 Peter--A.D. 64-65
2 Timothy--A.D. 66-67
2 Peter--A.D. 67-68
Hebrews--A.D. 67-69
Jude--A.D. 68-70
John--A.D. 80-90
1 John--A.D. 90-95
2 John--A.D. 90-95
3 John--A.D. 90-95
Revelation--A.D. 94-96








The Romans Destroy the Temple

at Jerusalem, 70 AD


In the year 66 AD the Jews of Judea rebelled against their Roman masters. In response, the Emperor Nero dispatched an army under the generalship of Vespasian to restore order. By the year 68, resistance in the northern part of the province had been eradicated and the Romans turned their full attention to the subjugation of Jerusalem. That same year, the Emperor Nero died by his own hand, creating a power vacuum in Rome. In the resultant chaos, Vespasian was declared Emperor and returned to the Imperial City. It fell to his son, Titus, to lead the remaining army in the assault on Jerusalem.


Roman Centurian
The Roman legions surrounded the city and began to slowly squeeze the life out of the Jewish stronghold. By the year 70, the attackers had breached Jerusalem's outer walls and began a systematic ransacking of the city. The assault culminated in the burning and destruction of the Temple that served as the center of Judaism.

In victory, the Romans slaughtered thousands. Of those sparred from death: thousands more were enslaved and sent to toil in the mines of Egypt, others were dispersed to arenas throughout the Empire to be butchered for the amusement of the public. The Temple's sacred relics were taken to Rome where they were displayed in celebration of the victory.

The rebellion sputtered on for another three years and was finally extinguished in 73 AD with the fall of the various pockets of resistance including the stronghold at Masada.

"...the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy."

Our only first-hand account of the Roman assault on the Temple comes from the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius. Josephus was a former leader of the Jewish Revolt who had surrendered to the Romans and had won favor from Vespasian. In gratitude, Josephus took on Vespasian's family name - Flavius - as his own. We join his account as the Romans fight their way into the inner sanctum of the Temple:

"...the rebels shortly after attacked the Romans again, and a clash followed between the guards of the sanctuary and the troops who were putting out the fire inside the inner court; the latter routed the Jews and followed in hot pursuit right up to the Temple itself. Then one of the soldiers, without awaiting any orders and with no dread of so momentous a deed, but urged on by some supernatural force, snatched a blazing piece of wood and, climbing on another soldier's back, hurled the flaming brand through a low golden window that gave access, on the north side, to the rooms that surrounded the sanctuary. As the flames shot up, the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy; they flocked to the rescue, with no thought of sparing their lives or husbanding their strength; for the sacred structure that they had constantly guarded with such devotion was vanishing before their very eyes.



...No exhortation or threat could now restrain the impetuosity of the legions; for passion was in supreme command. Crowded together around the entrances, many were trampled down by their companions; others, stumbling on the smoldering and smoked-filled ruins of the porticoes, died as miserably as the defeated. As they drew closer to the Temple, they pretended not even to hear Caesar's orders, but urged the men in front to throw in more firebrands. The rebels were powerless to help; carnage and flight spread throughout.

Most of the slain were peaceful citizens, weak and unarmed, and they were butchered where they were caught. The heap of corpses mounted higher and higher about the altar; a stream of blood flowed down the Temple's steps, and the bodies of those slain at the top slipped to the bottom.

Revelation says there is no Temple because Jesus is the temple.

Foreign soldiers also fought with Titus.. Arabs, Egyptians and Syrians.

 

[The Original Tree]

Jesus prophesied the destruction of The Temple, and also His own death and resurrection in the same prophesy. Don't you folks read your Bibles?

Daniel and other prophets prophesied to the day when "Messiah would be cut off," and accurately prophesied when the walls, temple and city would be rebuilt.

Also there will not only be a 3rd Temple which will be built near The Tribulation but there will be a Millennial Temple which will be built during The Millennial Reign of Christ where He will reside here on Earth with us during that time.

 

[surada]

Jesus prophesied the destruction of The Temple, and also His own death and resurrection in the same prophesy. Don't you folks read your Bibles?

Daniel and other prophets prophesied to the day when "Messiah would be cut off," and accurately prophesied when the walls, temple and city would be rebuilt.

Also there will not only be a 3rd Temple which will be built near The Tribulation but there will be a Millennial Temple which will be built during The Millennial Reign of Christ where He will reside here on Earth with us during that time.

Revelation says there is no temple What did Daniel say about rebuilding the temple?

I know they rededicated the temple after Antiochus IV Epiphanes defiled it with the abomination of desolation.

 

[surada]

Jesus prophesied the destruction of The Temple, and also His own death and resurrection in the same prophesy. Don't you folks read your Bibles?

Daniel and other prophets prophesied to the day when "Messiah would be cut off," and accurately prophesied when the walls, temple and city would be rebuilt.

Also there will not only be a 3rd Temple which will be built near The Tribulation but there will be a Millennial Temple which will be built during The Millennial Reign of Christ where He will reside here on Earth with us during that time.

Daniel was written in 167 BC about Antiochus IV.. You should read your bible. The tribulation was over in 70 AD. Jesus told his people in Jerusalem to flee to the mountains. They did. They went to Pella.

 

[The Original Tree]

Revelation says there is no temple What did Daniel say about rebuilding the temple?

I know they rededicated the temple after Antiochus IV Epiphanes defiled it with the abomination of desolation.

You couldn't tell the truth is allah-satan commanded you to.

 

[The Original Tree]

Daniel was written in 167 BC about Antiochus IV.. You should read your bible. The tribulation was over in 70 AD. Jesus told his people in Jerusalem to flee to the mountains. They did. They went to Pella.

Same lying bull-crap you continually copy and paste. If the Tribulation is over, then where it Jesus Christ, The Millennial Temple and The Millennial Kingdom? Does the Lion lay down with the lamb and eat grass like cattle do?

 

[surada]

You couldn't tell the truth is allah-satan commanded you to.

I can read. Can you?

Rev 21:22

King James Bible
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

 

[surada]

Same lying bull-crap you continually copy and paste. If the Tribulation is over, then where it Jesus Christ, The Millennial Temple and The Millennial Kingdom? Does the Lion lay down with the lamb and eat grass like cattle do?

If I did a cut and paste, I would give you a link.
The tribulation and the return of Christ are not the same. Read your bible.

 

[The Original Tree]

I can read. Can you?

Rev 21:22

King James Bible
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

That is after The Millennial Reign of Christ is over, and when The New Earth and New Heavens are made, and The Heavenly Jerusalem descends to Earth and Eternity begins.

If you understood The Bible you would not take things out of context like you continually do.

Are we in The Millennial Kingdom now? Where is Messiah? Are we in Eternity now? Where is The Heavenly Jerusalem descended to Earth?

There are also NO Seas in this time. Do we have seas now?

 

[surada]

That is after The Millennial Reign of Christ is over, and when The New Earth and New Heavens are made, and The Heavenly Jerusalem descends to Earth and Eternity begins.

If you understood The Bible you would not take things out of context like you continually do.

Are we in The Millennial Kingdom now? Where is Messiah? Are we in Eternity now? Where is The Heavenly Jerusalem descended to Earth?

There are also NO Seas in this time. Do we have seas now?

The new heaven and earth is a new time.

The destruction of the temple was the end of an era.

The Seas aren't going anywhere.

In Revelation "seas" is symbolic of danger and chaos.

 

[The Original Tree]

That is after The Millennial Reign of Christ is over, and when The New Earth and New Heavens are made, and The Heavenly Jerusalem descends to Earth and Eternity begins.

If you understood The Bible you would not take things out of context like you continually do.

Are we in The Millennial Kingdom now? Where is Messiah? Are we in Eternity now? Where is The Heavenly Jerusalem descended to Earth?

There are also NO Seas in this time. Do we have seas now?

Silly boy. Of course you have no actual response to facts.