How come no mention of the fall of the Temple in A.D. 70 in the NT?

[Bezukhov]

Here are the earliest extant manuscripts from the New Testament.

Biblical manuscript - Wikipedia

Nothing earlier than the 125 CE for some fragments of the Gospel of John. The rest run anywhere from the late 2nd century to the early 4th. Maybe there was some editing done from the originals to these, so as not to portray the Romans in such a bad light.

 

[irosie91]

I am curious about that one now..



(This is an estimate no exact year is possible)



New Testament

James--A.D. 44-49
Galatians--A.D. 49-50
Matthew--A.D. 50-60
Mark--A.D. 50-60
1 Thessalonians--A.D. 51
2 Thessalonians--A.D. 51-52
1 Corinthians--A.D. 55
2 Corinthians--A.D. 55-56
Romans-- A.D. 56
Luke--A.D. 60-61
Ephesians--A.D. 60-62
Philippians--A.D. 60-62
Philemon--A.D. 60-62
Colossians--A.D. 60-62
Acts--A.D. 62
1 Timothy--A.D. 62-64
Titus--A.D. 62-64
1 Peter--A.D. 64-65
2 Timothy--A.D. 66-67
2 Peter--A.D. 67-68
Hebrews--A.D. 67-69
Jude--A.D. 68-70
John--A.D. 80-90
1 John--A.D. 90-95
2 John--A.D. 90-95
3 John--A.D. 90-95
Revelation--A.D. 94-96








The Romans Destroy the Temple

at Jerusalem, 70 AD


In the year 66 AD the Jews of Judea rebelled against their Roman masters. In response, the Emperor Nero dispatched an army under the generalship of Vespasian to restore order. By the year 68, resistance in the northern part of the province had been eradicated and the Romans turned their full attention to the subjugation of Jerusalem. That same year, the Emperor Nero died by his own hand, creating a power vacuum in Rome. In the resultant chaos, Vespasian was declared Emperor and returned to the Imperial City. It fell to his son, Titus, to lead the remaining army in the assault on Jerusalem.


Roman Centurian
The Roman legions surrounded the city and began to slowly squeeze the life out of the Jewish stronghold. By the year 70, the attackers had breached Jerusalem's outer walls and began a systematic ransacking of the city. The assault culminated in the burning and destruction of the Temple that served as the center of Judaism.

In victory, the Romans slaughtered thousands. Of those sparred from death: thousands more were enslaved and sent to toil in the mines of Egypt, others were dispersed to arenas throughout the Empire to be butchered for the amusement of the public. The Temple's sacred relics were taken to Rome where they were displayed in celebration of the victory.

The rebellion sputtered on for another three years and was finally extinguished in 73 AD with the fall of the various pockets of resistance including the stronghold at Masada.

"...the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy."

Our only first-hand account of the Roman assault on the Temple comes from the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius. Josephus was a former leader of the Jewish Revolt who had surrendered to the Romans and had won favor from Vespasian. In gratitude, Josephus took on Vespasian's family name - Flavius - as his own. We join his account as the Romans fight their way into the inner sanctum of the Temple:

"...the rebels shortly after attacked the Romans again, and a clash followed between the guards of the sanctuary and the troops who were putting out the fire inside the inner court; the latter routed the Jews and followed in hot pursuit right up to the Temple itself. Then one of the soldiers, without awaiting any orders and with no dread of so momentous a deed, but urged on by some supernatural force, snatched a blazing piece of wood and, climbing on another soldier's back, hurled the flaming brand through a low golden window that gave access, on the north side, to the rooms that surrounded the sanctuary. As the flames shot up, the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy; they flocked to the rescue, with no thought of sparing their lives or husbanding their strength; for the sacred structure that they had constantly guarded with such devotion was vanishing before their very eyes.



...No exhortation or threat could now restrain the impetuosity of the legions; for passion was in supreme command. Crowded together around the entrances, many were trampled down by their companions; others, stumbling on the smoldering and smoked-filled ruins of the porticoes, died as miserably as the defeated. As they drew closer to the Temple, they pretended not even to hear Caesar's orders, but urged the men in front to throw in more firebrands. The rebels were powerless to help; carnage and flight spread throughout.

Most of the slain were peaceful citizens, weak and unarmed, and they were butchered where they were caught. The heap of corpses mounted higher and higher about the altar; a stream of blood flowed down the Temple's steps, and the bodies of those slain at the top slipped to the bottom.

Because it’s irrelevant to the salvation of mankind.

????? you mean it is irrelevant to that which
Christians deem ethical?

 

[peach174]

Jesus predicted it's fall in Matthew 24: 1-2

 

[irosie91]

Jesus predicted it's fall in Matthew 24: 1-2

he (or Matthew) left out the part ----the romans will do it and barbarically murder lots of people and steal all valuable objects. Jesus seemed to say that it will just kinda fall
apart

 

[peach174]

Jesus predicted it's fall in Matthew 24: 1-2

he (or Matthew) left out the part ----the romans will do it and barbarically murder lots of people and steal all valuable objects. Jesus seemed to say that it will just kinda fall
apart

They knew that it had to be some type of war and violence for every stone to fall irosie.

 

[shimon]

There are a lot of how comes in the NT but if we list them all we will be at it for many a night and day... Suffice to say the writers of the NT had moved on to bigger and better things like going out to conquer the world with their little book which first spread to the whole empire and beyond they were not really bothered by one little temple when they could build and control so many more as they expanded their reach and influence...

 

[keepitreal]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

 

[peach174]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

The short answer is, that sacrifice was centralized in the Temple at Jerusalem, and when the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans, sacrifice was no longer possible. Prayer replaced sacrifice as the form of worship.

 

[shimon]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...Jews today esp in Israel are not agrarian in nature they are city dwellers where do you think they will keep these animals in their two bedroom condos....lol...Read the scriptures TRUTHFULLY and you will get your answers...

 

[keepitreal]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

The short answer is, that sacrifice was centralized in the Temple at Jerusalem, and when the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans, sacrifice was no longer possible. Prayer replaced sacrifice as the form of worship.

The short answer is, that sacrifice was centralized in the Temple at Jerusalem, and when the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans, sacrifice was no longer possible. Prayer replaced sacrifice as the form of worship.

What has that to do with anything?

God didn't replace sacrifice for prayer

 

[keepitreal]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...Jews today esp in Israel are not agrarian in nature they are city dwellers where do you think they will keep these animals in their two bedroom condos....lol...Read the scriptures TRUTHFULLY and you will get your answers...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...

That is a lie...

That's why Jesus was sacrificed

 

[norwegen]

Here are the earliest extant manuscripts from the New Testament.

Biblical manuscript - Wikipedia

Nothing earlier than the 125 CE for some fragments of the Gospel of John. The rest run anywhere from the late 2nd century to the early 4th. Maybe there was some editing done from the originals to these, so as not to portray the Romans in such a bad light.

P52 is a fragment from a copy of John. For all we know, the original could have been written in the 60s.

 

[ding]

Anything but irrelevant, it's not mentioned because the books of the Bible were written before 70 AD.

you keep saying that without a single original physical proof for verification for any manuscripts, whenever written or anything of interest left by your leading character ... forgeries are rampant throughout your 4th century book irregardless your protestations.

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

the above is a forgery ...

And yet there is nothing inconsistent with the beliefs and practices of the early Christians.

Can you name anything that was?

 

[norwegen]

Jesus predicted it's fall in Matthew 24: 1-2

he (or Matthew) left out the part ----the romans will do it and barbarically murder lots of people and steal all valuable objects. Jesus seemed to say that it will just kinda fall
apart

Jesus said that the temple would be thrown down.

Elsewhere in the Olivet Discourse, he makes additional statements indicating that war is the cause of destruction. He said that armies would surround Jerusalem, which they did for three years. He also said that Jerusalem will not have suffered greater tribulation. He said a number of things related to the revolt that actually happened.

And, to be sure, the more destructive side was not the Romans but rather the Jews.

 

[irosie91]

Jesus predicted it's fall in Matthew 24: 1-2

he (or Matthew) left out the part ----the romans will do it and barbarically murder lots of people and steal all valuable objects. Jesus seemed to say that it will just kinda fall
apart

They knew that it had to be some type of war and violence for every stone to fall irosie.

who "knew"? it was hardly a "prophecy"-----that area had been a war zone between Mesopotamia and
Egypt for MILLENNIA

 

[irosie91]

Jesus predicted it's fall in Matthew 24: 1-2

he (or Matthew) left out the part ----the romans will do it and barbarically murder lots of people and steal all valuable objects. Jesus seemed to say that it will just kinda fall
apart

Jesus said that the temple would be thrown down.

Elsewhere in the Olivet Discourse, he makes additional statements indicating that war is the cause of destruction. He said that armies would surround Jerusalem, which they did for three years. He also said that Jerusalem will not have suffered greater tribulation. He said a number of things related to the revolt that actually happened.

And, to be sure, the more destructive side was not the Romans but rather the Jews.

to be sure----your conclusion is idiotic. Your sunday school teacher screwed your mind

 

[hobelim]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...Jews today esp in Israel are not agrarian in nature they are city dwellers where do you think they will keep these animals in their two bedroom condos....lol...Read the scriptures TRUTHFULLY and you will get your answers...

Don't be stupid shimon. In the city there are millions of animals running amok, some wild, some domesticated.there are herds of cattle, swine that do not ruminate, dogs, wolves, vultures, sheep, maggots, teeming vermin, creepy things that creep, and he-goats without blemish running amok every day in the streets and apartment buildings.


Some people are even married to lower beasts without knowing it, yuk.

Your best friend could even be a perfect specimen for ritual sacrifice.

The flesh drained of its blood and trimmed from the bone feeds the poor, and the fat thrown on the fire makes a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord wherever you live.

You only have to enter the sanctuary of God, if you can find the door.

 

[irosie91]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...Jews today esp in Israel are not agrarian in nature they are city dwellers where do you think they will keep these animals in their two bedroom condos....lol...Read the scriptures TRUTHFULLY and you will get your answers...

Don't be stupid shimon. In the city there are millions of animals running amok, some wild, some domesticated.there are herds of cattle, swine that do not ruminate, dogs, wolves, vultures, sheep, maggots, teeming vermin, creepy things that creep, and he-goats without blemish running amok every day in the streets and apartment buildings.


Some people are even married to lower beasts without knowing it, yuk.

Your best friend could even be a perfect specimen for ritual sacrifice.

The flesh drained of its blood and trimmed from the bone feeds the poor, and the fat thrown on the fire makes a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord wherever you live.

You only have to enter the sanctuary of God, if you can find it.

hobie dear-----you are delerious

 

[hobelim]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...Jews today esp in Israel are not agrarian in nature they are city dwellers where do you think they will keep these animals in their two bedroom condos....lol...Read the scriptures TRUTHFULLY and you will get your answers...

Don't be stupid shimon. In the city there are millions of animals running amok, some wild, some domesticated.there are herds of cattle, swine that do not ruminate, dogs, wolves, vultures, sheep, maggots, teeming vermin, creepy things that creep, and he-goats without blemish running amok every day in the streets and apartment buildings.


Some people are even married to lower beasts without knowing it, yuk.

Your best friend could even be a perfect specimen for ritual sacrifice.

The flesh drained of its blood and trimmed from the bone feeds the poor, and the fat thrown on the fire makes a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord wherever you live.

You only have to enter the sanctuary of God, if you can find it.

hobie dear-----you are delerious

You won't be thinking that anymore once you wake up out of your coma one morning to the smell of manure on your kitchen floor.

 

[irosie91]

Why do the Jews no longer offer animal sacrifices? How do Jewish people today believe they can receive forgiveness from God?

I have asked this question before myself...

If you read the scriptures prayer and repentance is all that was ever required remember we had a temple before that was destroyed and we were removed earlier by the babylonians...Jews today esp in Israel are not agrarian in nature they are city dwellers where do you think they will keep these animals in their two bedroom condos....lol...Read the scriptures TRUTHFULLY and you will get your answers...

Don't be stupid shimon. In the city there are millions of animals running amok, some wild, some domesticated.there are herds of cattle, swine that do not ruminate, dogs, wolves, vultures, sheep, maggots, teeming vermin, creepy things that creep, and he-goats without blemish running amok every day in the streets and apartment buildings.


Some people are even married to lower beasts without knowing it, yuk.

Your best friend could even be a perfect specimen for ritual sacrifice.

The flesh drained of its blood and trimmed from the bone feeds the poor, and the fat thrown on the fire makes a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord wherever you live.

You only have to enter the sanctuary of God, if you can find it.

hobie dear-----you are delerious

You won't be thinking that anymore once you wake up out of your coma one morning to the smell of manure on your kitchen floor.

oy----the patient is deteriorating-----QUICK----ice and cold water mattress----
can the patient tolerate ASA?