How cold is cold?

[Old Rocks]

With all this talk of how terribly cold this winter has been, how does it compare with winters within the last 150 years?

In 1911, the Niagra Falls froze solidly enough that people were walking on the ice to the edge.

In 1899, the Mississippi had ice on it all the way to New Orleans. It was discharging ice floes into the Gulf.

Thus far, what we have had this year is a cold snap, and a winter precipitation event.

 

[Big Fitz]

Nothing new here.

October, colder than normal
November, about average
December, a little above for snow and cold.
January, standard January thaw that happens about 2-4 times a decade.
Feb, right on target for normal so far.

BTW, how about Jones coming out and saying there's been no Anthropogenic Global Warming? Are we willing to accept his word on it yet?

 

[Liability]

Nothing new here.

October, colder than normal
November, about average
December, a little above for snow and cold.
January, standard January thaw that happens about 2-4 times a decade.
Feb, right on target for normal so far.

BTW, how about Jones coming out and saying there's been no Anthropogenic Global Warming? Are we willing to accept his word on it yet?

* Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing
* There has been no global warming since 1995
* Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes

* * * *

[Picture caption]: Professor Phil Jones admitted his record keeping is 'not as good as it should be'

The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.

The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

Read more: Climategate U-turn: Astonishment as scientist at centre of global warming email row admits data not well organised | Mail Online

 

[uscitizen]

Again Global is the key word, I don't care if the guy in Death Valley says it has been hot.

 

[Big Fitz]

Oh I've read the article, even coming this late to the game. I'm not shocked one bit that the Mill Rat has been all but missing. But we'll see. He may have had better things to do on this VD.

 

[Old Rocks]

I see. The Ice Caps have ceased to lose ice by the giga-ton?

January wasn't to warmest on record as recorded by satellites? That infamous global warmist, Dr. Roy Spencer, was lying again, correct?

The North Polar Cap has not been losing volume every year for the last five years?

It is not the word or evidence of one scientist. There are scientists on every continent presenting evidence of the warming.

And the simple physics of the absorbtion spectra of CO2 states that as you increase the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, it will trap more heat in that atmosphere. And, since man is responsible for the increase in CO2, we are responsible for the warming.

And as this decade proves to be even warmer than the last, you people will be searching for some other reason that AGW is not happening. And engaging in more mindless derision of the evidence that real scientists present you.

 

[uscitizen]

If it is happening we will put off any meaningful action until it is too late.
That is pretty certain. WE are not a very pro active country at all. Our current situations illustrates this.

Climate change as related to temp and other changes may not be linear.

 

[Liability]

The ice loss at the North Pole is at least off-set by the ice gain at the South Pole. Well, according to some sources.

Of course, with you AGW Faithers skewing and concealing the data, who the fuck can tell?

And even if (to the extent that) the planet has been ever so slowly getting warmer, the AGW Faither ARTICLE OF FAITH that such "warming" has been CAUSED by humankind is very much in doubt.

 

[uscitizen]

The ice loss at the North Pole is at least off-set by the ice gain at the South Pole. Well, according to some sources.

Of course, with you AGW Faithers skewing and concealing the data, who the fuck can tell?

And even if (to the extent that) the planet has been ever so slowly getting warmer, the AGW Faither ARTICLE OF FAITH that such "warming" has been CAUSED by humankind is very much in doubt.

Won't that imbalance cause the earth to flip around and we will be upside down?

 

[Old Rocks]

Now Citizen, don't get something like that started with this crowd. They would far rather believe that kind of thing, than accept that we are creating a real catastrophe for ourselves.

I mean, everyone knows the moon is hollow, right?

 

[uscitizen]

Now Citizen, don't get something like that started with this crowd. They would far rather believe that kind of thing, than accept that we are creating a real catastrophe for ourselves.

I mean, everyone knows the moon is hollow, right?

Right with elves walking upside down in it.

 

[Liability]

The ice loss at the North Pole is at least off-set by the ice gain at the South Pole. Well, according to some sources.

Of course, with you AGW Faithers skewing and concealing the data, who the fuck can tell?

And even if (to the extent that) the planet has been ever so slowly getting warmer, the AGW Faither ARTICLE OF FAITH that such "warming" has been CAUSED by humankind is very much in doubt.

Won't that imbalance cause the earth to flip around and we will be upside down?

I don't know. I haven't finished the Book of Revelations in the AGW Faither Bible yet.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Now Citizen, don't get something like that started with this crowd. They would far rather believe that kind of thing, than accept that we are creating a real catastrophe for ourselves.

I mean, everyone knows the moon is hollow, right?

bollocks its Gorgonzola picante not Emmentaler

 

[Old Rocks]

The ice loss at the North Pole is at least off-set by the ice gain at the South Pole. Well, according to some sources.

Of course, with you AGW Faithers skewing and concealing the data, who the fuck can tell?

And even if (to the extent that) the planet has been ever so slowly getting warmer, the AGW Faither ARTICLE OF FAITH that such "warming" has been CAUSED by humankind is very much in doubt.

Really? And the tooth fairy told you this? Do you ever bother to look things up before you flap your yap?

Because what you just said is absolute bullshit. You can see that in this graph;

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

 

[Skull Pilot]

Jesus this shit is getting old.

 

[Old Rocks]

Jesus this shit is getting old.

Fine, Skull, bring some new evidence to the game.

 

[Skull Pilot]

you can only scream "The sky is falling !" so many times before people stop listening.

The fact is that slightly warmer temps will not cause a biblical catastrophe.

 

[Liability]

Scientists have now concluded and are reporting that

weather is not stagnant!

And in an important related discovery, scientist in East Anglia have concluded that global climate has always changed.

 

[uscitizen]

Scientists have now concluded and are reporting that

weather is not stagnant!

And in an important related discovery, scientist in East Anglia have concluded that global climate has always changed.

And that dies not proove that man is not currnetly having an impact on that change now does it?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Scientists have now concluded and are reporting that

weather is not stagnant!

And in an important related discovery, scientist in East Anglia have concluded that global climate has always changed.

And that dies not proove that man is not currnetly having an impact on that change now does it?

And there is no proof that we will all die if temps warm slightly.