House Discharge Petition re Epstein Files Will Pass

[postman]

Not true at all, you apparently don't know much about the case at all then.

He said Maxwell was involved in recruiting the girls.

Mr Recarey testified that only two of the girls had any massage experience and the majority of them were under the age of 18.

When asked how Epstein was able to gain access to so many underage girls the detective said: "Each of the victims that went to the home were asked to bring their friends to the home."

Some were paid to recruit, he said, adding: "When they went to perform a massage, it was for [Epstein's] sexual gratification."

 

[Chuz Life]

If I can clarify for the record here, I am/ was a late comer to the who Epstein debacle.

The abortion issues has always been my first priority. Most who know me, would agree, that's to a fault.

The very first I time I ever heard of Epstein, it was easy to brush off as the left was trying to connect Trump to Epstein (guilt by association) thing - and I recall it having something to do with Epstein's connection to who I now know was Virginia Giuffre and allegations against Prince Andrew. . . He was busted, settled, lost all his military honors, etc. . .

Good. I don't have much interest in the "royals" anyway.

So, my interest never peaked further than that, until I catch the news story that Virginia Giuffre was in a bus crash and the article pointed her out as the girl that accused Prince Andrew. . .

The bus story was just not sounding right to me, she said she was dying in a social media post??? Liver something and I thought. . . maybe she's just chasing sympathy, money or both.

Around the same time, as I recall, the name Epstein came up in questions, press releases, etc.

Still no real interest but I do remember promises for more transparency, if elected.

Then it was reported that Virginia Giuffre was dead.

And that is when I started to realize how things were not adding up, promises not being kept, and so on.

 

[Mac-7]

That boat already sailed.

Bondi is so far up Trump's ass, she could screen him for rectal cancer.

If that were true - as opposed to the standard lib lie - then Bondi would have released the files by now

 

[Chuz Life]

Everyone is a target for their views, you posted yourself earlier in this thread that those not agreeing with were compromising defense of children and principles for political expediency. What was that if not a smear?

Is it a smear if it is true?

 

[Chuz Life]

The victims were supposed to release their own list, where is it?

You should really do some background research into some of these women, they're not lily white. I don't think any women involved that were adults when they first met Epstein were victimized at all.

1. That's not what they alleged.

2. Even if they were known proud prostitutes, I would want to know if the nation's leaders are with them. For national security reasons that I Hope don't even need to be explained.

 

[postman]

If that were true - as opposed to the standard lib lie - then Bondi would have released the files by now

Don't you realize. Trump had Bondi go through the Epstein files. And when she reported back how often his name was in the files, Trump told her NOT to release the files.

Capiche?

 

[Seymour Flops]

She put 1,000 FBI agents on overtime to search for Trumps name in the Epstein files.

You believe that happened?

Why?

I don't see the job of redacting being more than just additional overtime.

No, the logistics of making the redactions isnt the reason I mention it.

What I mean is what good will documents saying something like "victim Xxxxxx Xxxx stated that Maxwell sent her to give a massage to Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxxx who touched her and asked for sex" do?

Is providing that kind of document to the public a higher priority than finding the 300,000 kids the Biden Administration lost?

Why?

 

[Chuz Life]

So you're in a catch 22, you want the names released regardless of whether there is enough evidence to get an indictment, but at the same time don't want those people named to be shamed or accused? Wtf? You don't think they will be tried in the court of public opinion and have their lives ruined regardless of whether they are guilty of anything?

The public opinion thing has already been kicked off by the flight logs, Musk's comments and other finger pointing by the victims.

Transparency, in my view would actually be a good thing for anyone there who did nothing wrong.

 

[Chuz Life]

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO ARREST ANYONE, WHY CAN'T YOU GET THAT THRU YOUR BRAIN?

If all the women involved said the same as what you just did.

I would still want an independent review of the tapes, images, phone records, etc.

For national security reasons.

AGAIN, because I think the whole thing was about more than getting some fresh.

 

[Mac-7]

Don't you realize. Trump had Bondi go through the Epstein files. And when she reported back how often his name was in the files, Trump told her NOT to release the files.

Capiche?

Now you are dreaming

 

[OldFlame]

He said Maxwell was involved in recruiting the girls.

Mr Recarey testified that only two of the girls had any massage experience and the majority of them were under the age of 18.

When asked how Epstein was able to gain access to so many underage girls the detective said: "Each of the victims that went to the home were asked to bring their friends to the home."

Some were paid to recruit, he said, adding: "When they went to perform a massage, it was for [Epstein's] sexual gratification."

As I said, do more research.

 

[OldFlame]

If I can clarify for the record here, I am/ was a late comer to the who Epstein debacle.

The abortion issues has always been my first priority. Most who know me, would agree, that's to a fault.

The very first I time I ever heard of Epstein, it was easy to brush off as the left was trying to connect Trump to Epstein (guilt by association) thing - and I recall it having something to do with Epstein's connection to who I now know was Virginia Giuffre and allegations against Prince Andrew. . . He was busted, settled, lost all his military honors, etc. . .

Good. I don't have much interest in the "royals" anyway.

So, my interest never peaked further than that, until I catch the news story that Virginia Giuffre was in a bus crash and the article pointed her out as the girl that accused Prince Andrew. . .

The bus story was just not sounding right to me, she said she was dying in a social media post??? Liver something and I thought. . . maybe she's just chasing sympathy, money or both.

Around the same time, as I recall, the name Epstein came up in questions, press releases, etc.

Still no real interest but I do remember promises for more transparency, if elected.

Then it was reported that Virginia Giuffre was dead.

And that is when I started to realize how things were not adding up, promises not being kept, and so on.

You better let her family know then, none of them have claimed that she was murdered, and the circumstances around her death are not public. Everyone wants to see a conspiracy theory, the facts are bad enough without adding in speculation.

 

[OldFlame]

Is it a smear if it is true?

It is if you don't know whether it's true or not. What kind of a question is that?

That just tells me that you're ready to accuse any name released as part of the investigation without any concrete proof. I'm on the side of law and order, and innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

 

[OldFlame]

1. That's not what they alleged.

2. Even if they were known proud prostitutes, I would want to know if the nation's leaders are with them. For national security reasons that I Hope don't even need to be explained.

Yes it is, look up their press conference, every media outlet reported it at the beginning of September. And their victim spokesperson was a woman that met Epstein when she was 21, he paid her handsomely, paid for her to go to a prestigious school in New York and got her into the top modeling agencies. Yet she claims he raped her every time she visited him in his office, hoping each time she went it would have a different outcome. They should have never chosen her to speak for them.

How do you prove that anyone was 'with them' outside of video?

 

[OldFlame]

The public opinion thing has already been kicked off by the flight logs, Musk's comments and other finger pointing by the victims.

Transparency, in my view would actually be a good thing for anyone there who did nothing wrong.

If that's the case, then you already know all of the names?

 

[Chuz Life]

You better let her family know then, none of them have claimed that she was murdered, and the circumstances around her death are not public. Everyone wants to see a conspiracy theory. the facts are bad enough without adding in speculation.

Did I claim she was murdered?

 

[jc456]

Lol! Are you crazy! From Russian collusion to Porn star extortion to documents fraud to phony rape to J6 over-charging to lockup Trump people!!! Obiden people work locksteo to set it all up on-going reported by Whistleblowers. Are you crazy in addition to LW madness?

take a listen

 

[OldFlame]

If all the women involved said the same as what you just did.

I would still want an independent review of the tapes, images, phone records, etc.

For national security reasons.

AGAIN, because I think the whole thing was about more than getting some fresh.

Images, unless they're in the act, are meaningless, phone records are meaningless.

Only pictures or videos showing 'in the act' would suffice, and even then you have no proof of force.

You don't understand how difficult it is to prove cases like this beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[Chuz Life]

If that's the case, then you already know all of the names?

Yet they still drag their feet.

That makes sense.

 

[Chuz Life]

Images, unless they're in the act, are meaningless, phone records are meaningless.

Only pictures or videos showing 'in the act' would suffice, and even then you have no proof of force.

You don't understand how difficult it is to prove cases like this beyond a reasonable doubt.

And you still think that I am only in the interest of proving rape and not having any ******* concerns about the larger national security interests or implications.