Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[paulitician]

Public Schools have been failing children for many years. But have all Public Schools been shut down as a result? There's no doubt some Homeschooling will fail as well. But that doesn't mean Homeschooling should be banned. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[Sarah G]

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

Learning is on many different levels.

Bullies are in school. They're also in the adult world. How well do home schooled kids deal with bullies in the outside world? I don't know. I know that bullying was prevalent in my schools, I had to deal with impact of bullying and in the adult world I'm head strong and don't let people push me around.

Is learning social interaction a good thing even if it's negative? I would say so. Of course no one wants bullying and this should be dealt with effectively, but just general things every day, day in day out which a home school kid might not get.

Also, the sort of education I would want a child to have is probably not going to come from home schooling OR state schools either. It's that bad.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

 

[paulitician]

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

Learning is on many different levels.

Bullies are in school. They're also in the adult world. How well do home schooled kids deal with bullies in the outside world? I don't know. I know that bullying was prevalent in my schools, I had to deal with impact of bullying and in the adult world I'm head strong and don't let people push me around.

Is learning social interaction a good thing even if it's negative? I would say so. Of course no one wants bullying and this should be dealt with effectively, but just general things every day, day in day out which a home school kid might not get.

Also, the sort of education I would want a child to have is probably not going to come from home schooling OR state schools either. It's that bad.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is dead. It really is outdated. There are so many ways to expose your child to social interaction these days. Public-Schooling isn't necessary to accomplish it. And there is no evidence showing Pubic-Schooled kids are any 'better-adjusted' than Homeschooled kids. In fact, one could actually argue the opposite. Public-Schooled kids are a real mess these days.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

I'm not making an argument against home schooling. I always make an argument for better schooling that is more relevant to the modern world, and has aims that reflect what we want our children to become.

Also it's not about social interaction that I'm talking about, it's more the hard knocks of life that tend to go on when in an around that many kids day in and day out which might be similar to, say, a work place.

A lot of this depends. Some kids can go to school and be extremely lonely and be pretty bad at social interaction. Often personality types can determine this. However it would be interesting to see how different personality types would differ in both environments. It's something very difficult to get information about.

 

[paulitician]

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

I'm not making an argument against home schooling. I always make an argument for better schooling that is more relevant to the modern world, and has aims that reflect what we want our children to become.

Also it's not about social interaction that I'm talking about, it's more the hard knocks of life that tend to go on when in an around that many kids day in and day out which might be similar to, say, a work place.

A lot of this depends. Some kids can go to school and be extremely lonely and be pretty bad at social interaction. Often personality types can determine this. However it would be interesting to see how different personality types would differ in both environments. It's something very difficult to get information about.

Homeschooling isn't perfect. It doesn't solve all the problems. But neither does Public-Schooling. There's good & both in both. There's successes & failures in both. But we don't shut down all Public Schools because many have failed the kids. So we shouldn't ban all Homeschooling because some fail the kids. The Parents will decide. That's what Freedom & Liberty is all about.

 

[Sarah G]

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

Learning is on many different levels.

Bullies are in school. They're also in the adult world. How well do home schooled kids deal with bullies in the outside world? I don't know. I know that bullying was prevalent in my schools, I had to deal with impact of bullying and in the adult world I'm head strong and don't let people push me around.

Is learning social interaction a good thing even if it's negative? I would say so. Of course no one wants bullying and this should be dealt with effectively, but just general things every day, day in day out which a home school kid might not get.

Also, the sort of education I would want a child to have is probably not going to come from home schooling OR state schools either. It's that bad.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is dead. It really is outdated. There are so many ways to expose your child to social interaction these days. Public-Schooling isn't necessary to accomplish it. And there is no evidence showing Pubic-Schooled kids are any 'better-adjusted' than Homeschooled kids. In fact, one could actually argue the opposite. Public-Schooled kids are a real mess these days.

It's only dead if you believe that bored kids can just get over it. Parents are not going to teach all day then take them out in the evening to interract with other kids. They can learn at school and I've said before that our local schools are great, and interact, compete, do the extra curricular activities and sports after school. They can have it all but not when they are stuck at home all day.

 

[paulitician]

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

Learning is on many different levels.

Bullies are in school. They're also in the adult world. How well do home schooled kids deal with bullies in the outside world? I don't know. I know that bullying was prevalent in my schools, I had to deal with impact of bullying and in the adult world I'm head strong and don't let people push me around.

Is learning social interaction a good thing even if it's negative? I would say so. Of course no one wants bullying and this should be dealt with effectively, but just general things every day, day in day out which a home school kid might not get.

Also, the sort of education I would want a child to have is probably not going to come from home schooling OR state schools either. It's that bad.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is dead. It really is outdated. There are so many ways to expose your child to social interaction these days. Public-Schooling isn't necessary to accomplish it. And there is no evidence showing Pubic-Schooled kids are any 'better-adjusted' than Homeschooled kids. In fact, one could actually argue the opposite. Public-Schooled kids are a real mess these days.

It's only dead if you believe that bored kids can just get over it. Parents are not going to teach all day then take them out in the evening to interract with other kids. They can learn at school and I've said before that our local schools are great, and interact, compete, do the extra curricular activities and sports after school. They can have it all but not when they are stuck at home all day.

You're underestimating Parents. They don't Homeschool 24/7 and seven days a week. There's plenty of time for social interaction. Public Schooling isn't the only way to accomplish it. There are so many ways of exposing children to social interaction these days. So the 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling really is an outdated concept.

 

[Sarah G]

Learning is on many different levels.

Bullies are in school. They're also in the adult world. How well do home schooled kids deal with bullies in the outside world? I don't know. I know that bullying was prevalent in my schools, I had to deal with impact of bullying and in the adult world I'm head strong and don't let people push me around.

Is learning social interaction a good thing even if it's negative? I would say so. Of course no one wants bullying and this should be dealt with effectively, but just general things every day, day in day out which a home school kid might not get.

Also, the sort of education I would want a child to have is probably not going to come from home schooling OR state schools either. It's that bad.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is dead. It really is outdated. There are so many ways to expose your child to social interaction these days. Public-Schooling isn't necessary to accomplish it. And there is no evidence showing Pubic-Schooled kids are any 'better-adjusted' than Homeschooled kids. In fact, one could actually argue the opposite. Public-Schooled kids are a real mess these days.

It's only dead if you believe that bored kids can just get over it. Parents are not going to teach all day then take them out in the evening to interract with other kids. They can learn at school and I've said before that our local schools are great, and interact, compete, do the extra curricular activities and sports after school. They can have it all but not when they are stuck at home all day.

You're underestimating Parents. They don't Homeschool 24/7 and seven days a week. There's plenty of time for social interaction. Public Schooling isn't the only way to accomplish it. There are so many ways of exposing children to social interaction these days. So the 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling really is an outdated concept.

I underestimate some homeschoolers. Yes.

 

[paulitician]

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is dead. It really is outdated. There are so many ways to expose your child to social interaction these days. Public-Schooling isn't necessary to accomplish it. And there is no evidence showing Pubic-Schooled kids are any 'better-adjusted' than Homeschooled kids. In fact, one could actually argue the opposite. Public-Schooled kids are a real mess these days.

It's only dead if you believe that bored kids can just get over it. Parents are not going to teach all day then take them out in the evening to interract with other kids. They can learn at school and I've said before that our local schools are great, and interact, compete, do the extra curricular activities and sports after school. They can have it all but not when they are stuck at home all day.

You're underestimating Parents. They don't Homeschool 24/7 and seven days a week. There's plenty of time for social interaction. Public Schooling isn't the only way to accomplish it. There are so many ways of exposing children to social interaction these days. So the 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling really is an outdated concept.

I underestimate some homeschoolers. Yes.

Well, you're free to do that. Just as long as you acknowledge that Public-Schooling fails millions of children in this country. It's far from perfect. And neither is Homeschooling. There's successes and failures in both. But we haven't shut down all Public Schools because some have failed children. So all Homechooling shouldn't be shut down either. It is a viable alternative. The Parents will decide. And that's the way it should be.

 

[Contumacious]

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

I fully understand.

Since the minimum security prisons are GUN FREE ZONES it is very exciting to be in a classroom knowing that at any moment some retard may come in and shoot up the joint.

.

 

[Skull Pilot]

In conclusion, Government-run Schooling ain't all that. In fact in many cases, it's a downright nightmare. Parents need alternatives. Homeschooling is a fantastic alternative. Period, end of story. Case closed.

Sure, that might work for you and your lockstep teapartiers but not for anyone with a brain..

I for one, if I were to have kids, would home school.

And I have a brain. 2 BS degrees, and an MBA graduated with a 3.9 average over all 3.

I have no faith in public school whatsoever.

The latest studies are showing Homeschooled children are actually being better-prepared for College. It is a viable alternative to Government-run Schooling. More & more Americans will begin to consider it.

It's been well known for years that home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts.

People who oppose home schooling are just control freaks as it really is none of their Effing business

Is that one of your homeschooled, scientific, studies giving you that highly intelligent and brilliant conclusion? Let me ask you this, if you rwns know everything about everything, why are your politicians always so stupid?

FYI home schooled kids take SATs, ACTs and GREs just like everyone else AND they perform better than public school kids

And it really is none of your ******* business if a parent wants to home school now is it?

 

[Foxfyre]

I did no such thing. I am a product of the public schools. My kids and most of the children of my other relatives, friends, and neighbors as well as most of the hundred or so regular kids in our church youth group were or are public schooled. And the vast majority of them have been and/or are just fine.

I did not even insinuate that all or most public schooled kids are socially inept or poorly socialized or anything like that. What I did say is in comparing the homeschooled kids with their public schooled counterparts, I find the homeschooled kids, pretty much all of them, to be extremely confident, well socialized, and socially adept while the public schooled kids, on average--not all but on average--tend to be less so. In other words, if I do observe a child who appears to be poorly socialized or less socially adept, that child is far more likely to be from the public schooled group than the homeschooled group.

My argument has been primarily to counter the very erroneous arguments by several on this thread that the homeschooled kids are disadvantaged in that regard. They aren't.

Excellent observation. They're just repeating old outdated arguments. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the argument that Public School children are more socially advanced than Homeschooled children. In fact, one could argue that Public-Schooled children are a real mess these days. So it really is an outdated argument.

The thing is, the homeschooled kids are not as subject to the social cliques, the real social hostility and sometimes cruelty that is too often prevalent among school kids and evident on message boards such as this, the bullying, the inept or disinterested teachers, and they aren't held back by the slowest in the class. None of that stuff is good for kids and it is absolutely not necessary in order to grow up to be a savvy, well adjusted adult.

And because homeschooled kids are also not raised in a cocoon, and do interact with others in many different settings, they are not ignorant or unexposed to the fact everything and everybody isn't always in a good place, that there are dangers and difficulties to overcome, and there are unpleasant, disagreeable people to cope with. But the fact that such is not the normal, every day environment for them I count as a very good thing.

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

The homeschooled kids have to pass proficiency tests just like the public schooled kids do. They take the same SAT and ACT tests as the public schooled kids do. I have no doubt there are some who homeschool who do not have the patience or aptitude to do that competently, but such usually give it up within a reasonably short period.

I believe most parents who homeschool their kids are quite able, willing, and competent to do an effective job of teaching. Those who hit a subject they feel inadequate in will hire a tutor to shepherd the kid through those studies--I myself have tutored homeschooled kids. Those homeschooled kids, on average, consistently outscore the public schooled kids and even most parochial and private school kids on those proficiency tests and on their SATs. Many if not most do choose to go on to college where they do quite well. The vast majority do go on to be productive, competent, happy adults.

The very few kids who do not benefit from homeschooling appear to be in a very small minority. The vast majority who are homeschooled seem to thrive quite nicely and from what the kids tell me, they love being homeschooled.

SUPRISING STUDIES SHOW THAT HOMESCHOOL CHILDREN ARE MUCH SMARTER. THE AUTHORITY SITE

http://www.brighthubeducation.com/h...c-success-and-socialization-of-homeschoolers/

10 Telling Studies Done on Homeschooling - Online College Courses

Home schooled kids in states that do require proficiency tests, ACT, SAT, etc. are certainly better off than the ones that aren't. I don't have a problem with that type system. There is at least an effort to see that the child is getting an education, but sadly, that doesn't apply to all home schooled kids. Here in Texas, all you have to do is notify the school that your kid will be home schooled, a phone call will do, and they no longer exist as far as the school knows. If the parent wants their kid to take proficiency tests, ACT, or any of the other ways we have of monitoring education, it's available, but most don't. How can any parent advocate for that type system, even if it isn't your own kid?

Texas is applauded by home schooling organization because they do leave the schooling of the children to the parents though the law does require that the students receive a basic core curriculum and it must be a bonafide curriculum with text books etc. The state does not dictate what curriculum must be used, however, and that is considered a strong plus. It all comes down to whether you trust the state to raise and educate your child or whether you trust the parent to raise and educate the child. More Texas students are homeschooled than in any other state, there is a very large and helpful homeschooling network of support groups, and there is no evidence that homeschooled Texas kids are being shortchanged in any way.

At some point, this nation needs to re-establish a cultural norm of parents who parent and take responsibility for themselves and the kids they bring into the world. And public schooling or home schooling should be a function for local school boards, parents, teachers, and kids to do together in each community and any parent who leaves it up to the government to educate their child and takes no further interest in that is an irresponsible parent.

 

[BULLDOG]

Sure, that might work for you and your lockstep teapartiers but not for anyone with a brain..

I for one, if I were to have kids, would home school.

And I have a brain. 2 BS degrees, and an MBA graduated with a 3.9 average over all 3.

I have no faith in public school whatsoever.

The latest studies are showing Homeschooled children are actually being better-prepared for College. It is a viable alternative to Government-run Schooling. More & more Americans will begin to consider it.

It's been well known for years that home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts.

People who oppose home schooling are just control freaks as it really is none of their Effing business

Is that one of your homeschooled, scientific, studies giving you that highly intelligent and brilliant conclusion? Let me ask you this, if you rwns know everything about everything, why are your politicians always so stupid?

FYI home schooled kids take SATs, ACTs and GREs just like everyone else AND they perform better than public school kids

And it really is none of your ******* business if a parent wants to home school now is it?

Sorry, but you are wrong. I'm sure that in the states that do continue to supply and grade tests, there are several well educated students, but in the ones that don't, I suspect the results are quite different
Texas Homeschooling Laws - Home School Legally in TX A2Z Homeschooling

 

[Sarah G]

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

I fully understand.

Since the minimum security prisons are GUN FREE ZONES it is very exciting to be in a classroom knowing that at any moment some retard may come in and shoot up the joint.

.

Why not go and collect yourself, try to form your thoughts, figure out what the topic is and come back later.

 

[BULLDOG]

Excellent observation. They're just repeating old outdated arguments. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the argument that Public School children are more socially advanced than Homeschooled children. In fact, one could argue that Public-Schooled children are a real mess these days. So it really is an outdated argument.

The thing is, the homeschooled kids are not as subject to the social cliques, the real social hostility and sometimes cruelty that is too often prevalent among school kids and evident on message boards such as this, the bullying, the inept or disinterested teachers, and they aren't held back by the slowest in the class. None of that stuff is good for kids and it is absolutely not necessary in order to grow up to be a savvy, well adjusted adult.

And because homeschooled kids are also not raised in a cocoon, and do interact with others in many different settings, they are not ignorant or unexposed to the fact everything and everybody isn't always in a good place, that there are dangers and difficulties to overcome, and there are unpleasant, disagreeable people to cope with. But the fact that such is not the normal, every day environment for them I count as a very good thing.

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

The homeschooled kids have to pass proficiency tests just like the public schooled kids do. They take the same SAT and ACT tests as the public schooled kids do. I have no doubt there are some who homeschool who do not have the patience or aptitude to do that competently, but such usually give it up within a reasonably short period.

I believe most parents who homeschool their kids are quite able, willing, and competent to do an effective job of teaching. Those who hit a subject they feel inadequate in will hire a tutor to shepherd the kid through those studies--I myself have tutored homeschooled kids. Those homeschooled kids, on average, consistently outscore the public schooled kids and even most parochial and private school kids on those proficiency tests and on their SATs. Many if not most do choose to go on to college where they do quite well. The vast majority do go on to be productive, competent, happy adults.

The very few kids who do not benefit from homeschooling appear to be in a very small minority. The vast majority who are homeschooled seem to thrive quite nicely and from what the kids tell me, they love being homeschooled.

SUPRISING STUDIES SHOW THAT HOMESCHOOL CHILDREN ARE MUCH SMARTER. THE AUTHORITY SITE

http://www.brighthubeducation.com/h...c-success-and-socialization-of-homeschoolers/

10 Telling Studies Done on Homeschooling - Online College Courses

Home schooled kids in states that do require proficiency tests, ACT, SAT, etc. are certainly better off than the ones that aren't. I don't have a problem with that type system. There is at least an effort to see that the child is getting an education, but sadly, that doesn't apply to all home schooled kids. Here in Texas, all you have to do is notify the school that your kid will be home schooled, a phone call will do, and they no longer exist as far as the school knows. If the parent wants their kid to take proficiency tests, ACT, or any of the other ways we have of monitoring education, it's available, but most don't. How can any parent advocate for that type system, even if it isn't your own kid?

Texas is applauded by home schooling organization because they do leave the schooling of the children to the parents though the law does require that the students receive a basic core curriculum and it must be a bonafide curriculum with text books etc. The state does not dictate what curriculum must be used, however, and that is considered a strong plus. It all comes down to whether you trust the state to raise and educate your child or whether you trust the parent to raise and educate the child. More Texas students are homeschooled than in any other state, there is a very large and helpful homeschooling network of support groups, and there is no evidence that homeschooled Texas kids are being shortchanged in any way.

At some point, this nation needs to re-establish a cultural norm of parents who parent and take responsibility for themselves and the kids they bring into the world. And public schooling or home schooling should be a function for local school boards, parents, teachers, and kids to do together in each community and any parent who leaves it up to the government to educate their child and takes no further interest in that is an irresponsible parent.

In other words, the state doesn't care what the students are taught, and since there are no requirements for tests or any further contact, they don't even know or care if the students are being taught. Right? If what I just said is wrong in any way, please show me in the law where it is wrong.

 

[Contumacious]

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

I fully understand.

Since the minimum security prisons are GUN FREE ZONES it is very exciting to be in a classroom knowing that at any moment some retard may come in and shoot up the joint.

.

Why not go and collect yourself, try to form your thoughts, figure out what the topic is and come back later.

If and when you become a parent, you will want to know who are the other 40 kids in the classroom who will influence your children far more than the teachers themselves? Also will your children agree with you that being confined in a classsroom for 8 hours a day x 12 years is exciting?

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[Foxfyre]

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

Learning is on many different levels.

Bullies are in school. They're also in the adult world. How well do home schooled kids deal with bullies in the outside world? I don't know. I know that bullying was prevalent in my schools, I had to deal with impact of bullying and in the adult world I'm head strong and don't let people push me around.

Is learning social interaction a good thing even if it's negative? I would say so. Of course no one wants bullying and this should be dealt with effectively, but just general things every day, day in day out which a home school kid might not get.

Also, the sort of education I would want a child to have is probably not going to come from home schooling OR state schools either. It's that bad.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is outdated. You don't need Public Schools to expose your child to social interaction. There are so many other ways of doing that these days. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea Public-Schooled children are 'Better Adjusted' than Homechooled children. It's an old myth promoted by those who oppose Homechooling.

There is consistant social interaction in schools and as far as the social cliques go, they have to deal with that throughout their life, not just when they are in school.
There is also the competition with their peers. They have to be exposed on a daily basis to social experiences. Do you guys realize how boring it is to just stay home? We all need outside interactions everyday. Homeschooled kids don't get that. Seriously.

The 'Social Interaction' argument against Homeschooling is dead. It really is outdated. There are so many ways to expose your child to social interaction these days. Public-Schooling isn't necessary to accomplish it. And there is no evidence showing Pubic-Schooled kids are any 'better-adjusted' than Homeschooled kids. In fact, one could actually argue the opposite. Public-Schooled kids are a real mess these days.

The homeschooled kids probably get a lot more social interaction, especially of the positive variety, than their public school peers. They spend less time on average in the classroom because no time is wasted and the school day can be more condensed even as most homeschoolers are advancing educationally at a faster rate than most public schooled kids. That leaves them more time for jobs, volunteer work, or any of the many MANY social outlets that homeschoolers have available to them. The idea that they're just staying home is a huge myth.

 

[Unkotare]

I disagree with you on many points....

OK, list them.

 

[Unkotare]

We may not have a legally official language. but for all intents and purposes our official language is English.
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Then what you are you so afraid of?

 

[Unkotare]

I know there are some people who home school their kids and provide them with a wonderful education, but that is far from the norm. I tend to believe that not all home schooled children are in such a ideal learning environment. Do you really believe every, or even most parents who chooses to home school are willing to put the time in every day, and have the knowledge and skills required to teach the complex and difficult courses that are needed for the children to have a successful life? With no requirement for monitoring of any kind, or required guidance of skilled educators, you are dooming way too many kids to a less than productive life.

...............according to ... you? Who are you again?