Holy Crap Tine E, look at the Antarctic Sea Ice Extent!

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Now this is impressive, I wonder how long it has been since the Antarctic sea ice was at this level?




 

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And why do you think it's doing that?



Not because the place is getting any colder. Perhaps because of a warmer ocean surrounding the place.
 
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Not because the place is getting any colder. Perhaps because of a warmer ocean surrounding the place.
No "perhaps" about it!

Just take a bowl full of ice cubes and pour in a gallon of hot water and watch how quickly the amount of ice increases.

It ALWAYS behaves that way on your planet....just not here on Earth.
 

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A warmer ocean is causing more ice?

For crying out loud, you are ridiculous. Everything you say, it's nothing but dogma. Dogma everywhere. Your mind is poisoned. A deadly psionic venom has infected you and is attacking your ability to detect your own existence.
 

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A warmer ocean is causing more ice?

For crying out loud, you are ridiculous. Everything you say, it's nothing but dogma. Dogma everywhere. Your mind is poisoned. A deadly psionic venom has infected you and is attacking your ability to detect your own existence.
Why don't you actually put that Gifted head to use and look up the current science on the matter. Then you can come back and graciously admit your mistake. Like a real grownup.
 
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A warmer ocean is causing more ice?

For crying out loud, you are ridiculous. Everything you say, it's nothing but dogma. Dogma everywhere. Your mind is poisoned. A deadly psionic venom has infected you and is attacking your ability to detect your own existence.
Why don't you actually put that Gifted head to use and look up the current science on the matter. Then you can come back and graciously admit your mistake. Like a real grownup.






The current science on the subject has been catastrophically wrong. Thanks for playing but you need some newer material.
 

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Links please. Show us where it has been PROVEN wrong.
 
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And why do you think it's doing that?



Not because the place is getting any colder. Perhaps because of a warmer ocean surrounding the place.





So, here is the current temp. During summer you might note.... So tell us, how is what you say possible? Show us your math.





24 Hour Summary

Time
EST (UTC) Temperature
F (C) Dew Point
F (C) Pressure
Inches (hPa) Wind
MPH Weather
Latest 11 PM (4) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 28.97 (981) ESE 14
10 PM (3) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 28.99 (981) SE 12
9 PM (2) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.01 (982) SSE 12
8 PM (1) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.02 (982) SSE 12
7 PM (0) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.03 (983) SSE 10
6 PM (23) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.04 (983) SE 12
5 PM (22) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.05 (983) SSE 12
4 PM (21) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.05 (983) SSE 12
3 PM (20) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.06 (984) SE 9
2 PM (19) Jan 17 -18 (-28) 29.07 (984) SE 10
1 PM (18) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.07 (984) SE 10 ice crystals
Noon (17) Jan 17 -18 (-28) 29.07 (984) SE 9 ice crystals
11 AM (16) Jan 17 -16 (-27) 29.08 (984) E 6 ice crystals
10 AM (15) Jan 17 -16 (-27) 29.08 (984) ESE 7 ice crystals
9 AM (14) Jan 17 -16 (-27) 29.09 (985) SE 9
8 AM (13) No Data
7 AM (12) Jan 17 -11 (-24) 29.09 (985) Calm light snow grains; mist
6 AM (11) No Data
5 AM (10) No Data
4 AM (9) No Data
3 AM (8) No Data
2 AM (7) No Data
1 AM (6) Jan 17 -13 (-25) 29.11 (985) NW 9
Oldest Midnight (5) No Data
Time
EST (UTC) Temperature
F(C) Dew Point
F(C) Pressure
Inches(hPa) Wind
(MPH) Weather




http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/NZSP.html
 

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Warmer ocean = more evaporation into a warm atmosphere that has a higher vapor pressure = more unstable as the parcel of air wants to raise = condensing into more clouds = more snowfall into atmosphere still below freezing.
 
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Warmer ocean = more evaporation into a warm atmosphere that has a higher vapor pressure = more unstable as the parcel of air wants to raise = condensing into more clouds = more snowfall into atmosphere still below freezing.





Except the Antarctic is drier than most deserts and has remained that way. There HAS BEEN NO INCREASE IN HUMIDITY IN THE ANTARCTIC.
 

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And why do you think it's doing that?



Not because the place is getting any colder. Perhaps because of a warmer ocean surrounding the place.







My work once had me assessing a client in a psych ward for a whole day......a DD kid.....and while there, I bumped into a guy who thought he was Jesus Christ. Talked incessantly about the FBI and the CIA. Guy has an answer to everything and was invariably confident and decisive about any topic.......100% certain of his opinion. Evidence to the contrary did not matter whatsoever. Fascinating shit on some level.

That is exactly the way it is with these climate OCD's.......it is called "thought process disorder" in my field or "psychosis" in TV shows/movies. Lay people call them nuts. Mind you, this is not at all an intelligence issue ( I never call these people morons or retards)......its a thought processing issue. Big difference. The former has no fix......the latter can be sufficiently corrected with pharmacological aids in some cases. When you have fucked up serotonin levels, there are lots of issues with the thinking. SSRO meds significantly alter the rumination of thoughts dynamic that exists in these folks......increase in serotonin uptake at the synapse has a profound impact on peoples ability to process their thoughts. If that ice cover were double the size displayed above, it would not alter the thinking of these people.......lol......like trying to reason with a guy who thinks hes Jesus Christ.
 
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And why do you think it's doing that?



Not because the place is getting any colder. Perhaps because of a warmer ocean surrounding the place.
So, here is the current temp. During summer you might note.... So tell us, how is what you say possible? Show us your math.

24 Hour Summary

Time
EST (UTC) Temperature
F (C) Dew Point
F (C) Pressure
Inches (hPa) Wind
MPH Weather
Latest 11 PM (4) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 28.97 (981) ESE 14
10 PM (3) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 28.99 (981) SE 12
9 PM (2) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.01 (982) SSE 12
8 PM (1) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.02 (982) SSE 12
7 PM (0) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.03 (983) SSE 10
6 PM (23) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.04 (983) SE 12
5 PM (22) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.05 (983) SSE 12
4 PM (21) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.05 (983) SSE 12
3 PM (20) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.06 (984) SE 9
2 PM (19) Jan 17 -18 (-28) 29.07 (984) SE 10
1 PM (18) Jan 17 -20 (-29) 29.07 (984) SE 10 ice crystals
Noon (17) Jan 17 -18 (-28) 29.07 (984) SE 9 ice crystals
11 AM (16) Jan 17 -16 (-27) 29.08 (984) E 6 ice crystals
10 AM (15) Jan 17 -16 (-27) 29.08 (984) ESE 7 ice crystals
9 AM (14) Jan 17 -16 (-27) 29.09 (985) SE 9
8 AM (13) No Data
7 AM (12) Jan 17 -11 (-24) 29.09 (985) Calm light snow grains; mist
6 AM (11) No Data
5 AM (10) No Data
4 AM (9) No Data
3 AM (8) No Data
2 AM (7) No Data
1 AM (6) Jan 17 -13 (-25) 29.11 (985) NW 9
Oldest Midnight (5) No Data
Time
EST (UTC) Temperature
F(C) Dew Point
F(C) Pressure
Inches(hPa) Wind
(MPH) Weather

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/NZSP.html
The graph to which I linked is clearly marked "Temperature difference to 1961-1990". It shows that the Antarctic is not getting colder. Is that what your short listing contains? No.

You've presented nothing.

So, again, what do you folks believe to be the cause of the added ice? I'll give you a really good hint: you don't have added ice. You have less ice, spread like too little jelly on your PBJ.

 
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Northern Sea Ice Analomy

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.arctic.png

Southern Sea Ice Analomy

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png

In context, the sea ice around Anarctica is increasing at a much slower rate than the sea ice in the Arctic is decreasing. And the sea ice in around Antarctica will probably start decreasing within a decade.
Why? Because you say so?
The good news is that with all this global warming, we can expect to see more and more ice in Antarctica. No rising sea temperatures for this planet! :D
 

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Not because the place is getting any colder. Perhaps because of a warmer ocean surrounding the place.
No "perhaps" about it!

Just take a bowl full of ice cubes and pour in a gallon of hot water and watch how quickly the amount of ice increases.

It ALWAYS behaves that way on your planet....just not here on Earth.
???

Wow! BRB.
 

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