"‘Worst-Case’ Disaster for Antarctic Ice" How Science Actually Works

[ding]

Because THIS warming is AGW with continued GHG thickening as the cause, not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.
The earth has oft gotten warmer than now and - for openers- the last time we hit 400 PPM (Pliocene) we had sea level 50' higher.
WE are at 425 headed for 500 by 2050.

You ae dishonest flith and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.

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No, this warming is not AGW. The majority of this warming is due to the planet naturally warming up to it's preglacial temperature LIKE IT ALWAYS DOES AFTER A GLACIAL PERIOD HAS ENDED.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because THIS warming is AGW with continued GHG thickening as the cause, not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.
The earth has oft gotten warmer than now and - for openers- the last time we hit 400 PPM (Pliocene) we had sea level 50' higher.
WE are at 425 headed for 500 by 2050.

You ae dishonest flith and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.

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ZOMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

425????


ZOMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Wheeze all gunna dye!!!

So if America spend $3T, how much will temperature decrease?

 

[ding]

You ae dishonest flith and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.

Are you going to cry like a lil bitch?

I'm a degreed engineer. What's your background?

 

[ding]

Because THIS warming is AGW with continued GHG thickening as the cause, not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.
The earth has oft gotten warmer than now and - for openers- the last time we hit 400 PPM (Pliocene) we had sea level 50' higher.
WE are at 425 headed for 500 by 2050.

You ae dishonest flith and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.

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Do you like this data, lil bitch?

 

[abu afak]

Hey, moron. The northern hemisphere has glaciated and deglaciated 30 times in the last 3 million years. When it doe the oceans and atmosphere cool and warm. It affects the entire planet, dumb ass. How can you not know this?

Because THIS warming is AGW with continued GHG thickening as the cause, not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.
The earth has oft gotten warmer than now and - for openers- the last time we hit 400 PPM (Pliocene) we had sea level 50' higher.
We are at 425PPM headed for 500PPM by 2050.

More Warming is already in the cards, just lags for decades even at 400 PPM. We are in the Oven just waiting to cook through.

You are dishonest filth and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.

(and take Your Fellow and Especially Low IQ Troll and Evo DENIER CracksaderFrank with you.
You are Not science posters.)
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[ding]

Because THIS warming is AGW with continued GHG thickening as the cause, not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.
The earth has oft gotten warmer than now and - for openers- the last time we hit 400 PPM (Pliocene) we had sea level 50' higher.
WE are at 425 headed for 500 by 2050.

More warming is already in the cards, just lags for decades even at 400 PPM. We are in he oven just waiting to cook through.

You ae dishonest filth and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.


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The last time the planet had atmospheric CO2 0f 500 ppm.... THE PLANET COOLED.

Same for 600 ppm and 700 ppm and 800 ppm and 900 ppm and 1000 ppm. THE PLANET COOLED.

 

[ding]

Because THIS warming is AGW with continued GHG thickening as the cause, not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.
The earth has oft gotten warmer than now and - for openers- the last time we hit 400 PPM (Pliocene) we had sea level 50' higher.
WE are at 425 headed for 500 by 2050.

More warming is already in the cards, just lags for decades even at 400 PPM. We are in he oven just waiting to cook through.

You ae dishonest filth and know you are wrong. (daily)
Just really another crazy Lying-for-Jesus freak in the wrong section.
Stay in Religion.


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When heat is circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic the northern hemisphere deglaciates, the oceans warm and the atmosphere warms. That is what is happening today.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

425= death!

Is that what your models tell you?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The last time the planet had atmospheric CO2 0f 500 ppm.... THE PLANET COOLED.

Same for 600 ppm and 700 ppm and 800 ppm and 900 ppm and 1000 ppm. THE PLANET COOLED.

You know Ding, you and this "Science" stuff is just denier talk. The models prove that CO2 drives the temperature and climate here on Earth and other planets was well

 

[ding]

You know Ding, you and this "Science" stuff is just denier talk. The models prove that CO2 drives the temperature and climate here on Earth and other planets was well

Millions of years of empirical climate evidence from the geologic record doesn't stand a chance against frauds getting paid money to make up BS science.

 

[ding]

not a solar/Milankovitch cycle.

Never said it was. I think those are red herrings like CO2 is. It's ocean currents which are responsible for abrupt climate change.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Millions of years of empirical climate evidence from the geologic record doesn't stand a chance against frauds getting paid money to make up BS science.

Janet Yelling like a loon just told us the price tag -- $3 Trillion ANNUALLY

What does that buy us?

We can't really tell you

 

[80zephyr]

1. One notes you are talking Only Northern Hemisphere picolo fraud.
2. No one said the earth has to warm evenly. Um
3. And of course continued and even increasing human/GHG pressure will eventually change that .. because...
4. the earth has been much warmer in the past with both poles melted by nature... just as we are capable of doing.
5. IOW, the N-Hem may cool at the beginning or any stage of warming/melt, is not a guarantee prolonged AGW won't eventually warm everywhere by our hand. In fact, obviously the planet has continued past that point many times.
(See my Pliocene/Sea Level +50' OP)

6. You are Dishonest and a fraud trying to mislead the mb.
7. Doesn't work with me you deluded god freak. You don't have the IQ points/logic.

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What caused warming in the past?

 

[ding]

What caused warming in the past?

How the ocean distributes heat to critical parts of the planet like the northern hemisphere which is prone to glaciation and deglaciation.

The glacial cycles of the past 3 million years is what determines if the planet is warming or cooling. When heat is being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic the northern hemisphere deglaciates like it is today and the oceans and the atmosphere warm. When heat circulation gets disrupted from the Atlantic to the Arctic the northern hemisphere glaciates and the oceans and the atmosphere cool.

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

Abstract. Together with the latent heat stored in glacial ice sheets, the ocean heat uptake carries the lion's share of glacial–interglacial changes in the planetary heat content, but little direct information on the global mean ocean temperature (MOT) is available to constrain the ocean...

cp.copernicus.org

 

[80zephyr]

How the ocean distributes heat to critical parts of the planet like the northern hemisphere which is prone to glaciation and deglaciation.

The glacial cycles of the past 3 million years is what determines if the planet is warming or cooling. When heat is being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic the northern hemisphere deglaciates like it is today and the oceans and the atmosphere warm. When heat circulation gets disrupted from the Atlantic to the Arctic the northern hemisphere glaciates and the oceans and the atmosphere cool.

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Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

Abstract. Together with the latent heat stored in glacial ice sheets, the ocean heat uptake carries the lion's share of glacial–interglacial changes in the planetary heat content, but little direct information on the global mean ocean temperature (MOT) is available to constrain the ocean...

cp.copernicus.org

Then the cause of increased CO2 could be absolutely normal.

 

[ding]

Then the cause of increased CO2 could be absolutely normal.

No, I think the increased atmospheric CO2 does correlate to CO2 emissions. I just don't believe it can be responsible for ALL warming since the industrial revolution. That warming trend began when the Little Ice Age ended which was 150 years before the industrial revolution.

 

[80zephyr]

No, I think the increased atmospheric CO2 does correlate to CO2 emissions. I just don't believe it can be responsible for ALL warming since the industrial revolution. That warming trend began when the Little Ice Age ended which was 150 years before the industrial revolution.

It appears your own graphs show warming to increase until it collapses into another ice age.

 

[ding]

It appears your own graphs show warming to increase until it collapses into another ice age.

Yep, that's the glacial cycle. Technically the ice age began 3 to 5 million years ago and what you are calling ice age is really a glacial period. The glacial cycle consists of a glacial period and an interglacial period.

 

[EMH]

We have the science telling us that a scenario involving a ‘Worst-Case’ Disaster for Antarctic Ice" is probably less likely to occur than previously thought. I think of probabilities, possibilities, predictions, suggestions, theories and see anti-science people, who claim to not be anti-science, coming out to attack the science and especially the scientists themselves, all because political partisans and ideologues fear the science and what it suggests.

Myself, I usually, almost always go with the science. Exceptions? Cases like the supposed science surrounding cigarette smoking, tobacco products and relationships to cancer and other health issues.

‘Worst-Case’ Disaster for Antarctic Ice Looks Less Likely, Study Finds​

Global warming is putting the continent’s ice at risk of destruction in many forms. But one especially calamitous scenario might be a less pressing concern, a new study found.
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As all this ice tumbles into the ocean, and assuming that nations’ emissions of heat-trapping gases climb to extremely high levels, Antarctica could contribute more than a foot to worldwide sea-level rise before the end of the century.

This calamitous chain of events is still hypothetical, yet scientists have taken it seriously enough to include it as a “low-likelihood, high-impact” possibility in the United Nations’ latest assessment of future sea-level increase.

Now, though, a group of researchers has put forth evidence that the prospect may be more remote than previously thought. As humans burn fossil fuels and heat the planet, West Antarctica’s ice remains vulnerable to destruction in many forms. But this particular form, in which ice cliffs collapse one after the other, looks less likely, according to the scientists’ computer simulations.

“We’re not saying that we’re safe,” said Mathieu Morlighem, a professor of earth science at Dartmouth College who led the research. “The Antarctic ice sheet is going to disappear; this is going to happen. The question is how fast.”

Is there any compressed air in the Antarctic ice?

Would that compressed air be released into the atmosphere if Antarctic ice was melting?

If so, would that not increase surface air pressure?

Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

The Co2 FRAUD is run by very lame "climate scientists" who flat out aren't very good at science at all. They are good at lying, fudging data, and censoring truth. But there is data, and it isn't friendly to the Co2 FRAUD, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudges everything they think they need to...

www.usmessageboard.com

LOL!!!

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses - NASA Science

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

science.nasa.gov

"the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008."

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

Can the Co2 FRAUD show us any LIQUID WATER on Antarctica since the Co2 FRAUD claims it is "melting?"

NO....

 

[Dante]

Is there any compressed air in the Antarctic ice?

Would that compressed air be released into the atmosphere if Antarctic ice was melting?

If so, would that not increase surface air pressure?

Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

The Co2 FRAUD is run by very lame "climate scientists" who flat out aren't very good at science at all. They are good at lying, fudging data, and censoring truth. But there is data, and it isn't friendly to the Co2 FRAUD, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudges everything they think they need to...

www.usmessageboard.com

LOL!!!

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses - NASA Science

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

science.nasa.gov

"the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008."

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

Can the Co2 FRAUD show us any LIQUID WATER on Antarctica since the Co2 FRAUD claims it is "melting?"

NO....

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