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I don't recall saying that government can be held legally responsible if somebody is killed by gun.
I simply said that government must be held responsible for stopping the slaughter .......................etc.[/quote}
Are you so dismally ingorant that you actually don't understand the difference in the two?
Government must be held responsible for enacting laws to stop the slaugher by guns.
No, but you still haven't understood what I've said. But to the new point you're trying to raise, there are likely laws that prohibit the police from murdering black men on the street with their guns, and many instances where the laws against doing so aren't enforced. As we have come to agree, America is immersed in a slaughter by gun.
Is government's "responsibility" fulfilled by mere enactment of laws without any duty to enforce them?
I don't recall saying that government can be held legally responsible if somebody is killed by gun.
I simply said that government must be held responsible for stopping the slaughter .......................etc.[/quote}
Do you understand the difference in those two sentences?
LOL police are not murdering black men in the street.No, but you still haven't understood what I've said. But to the new point you're trying to raise, there are likely laws that prohibit the police from murdering black men on the street with their guns, and many instances where the laws against doing so aren't enforced. As we have come to agree, America is immersed in a slaughter by gun.
But to return to that which I said:
In fact it can't be ignored but we could turn to the new topic of 'defunding the police' as the appropriate topic that makes the point better than our departure from the 'guns' question.LOL police are not murdering black men in the street.
"Many instances"?. But to the new point you're trying to raise, there are likely laws that prohibit the police from murdering black men on the street with their guns, and many instances where the laws against doing so aren't enforced.
Take it to the appropriate topic where you will at least stand a chance of getting my attention."Many instances"?
Such as?
You brought it up now cant substantiate your claim?Take it to the appropriate topic where you will at least stand a chance of getting my attention.
So, you know you can't cite -any- such instances.Take it to the appropriate topic where you will at least stand a chance of getting my attention.
Chances are I might try with you at least, when you take it to the appropriate topic.You brought it up now cant substantiate your claim?
Yes.Chances are I might try with you at least, when you take it to the appropriate topic.
The suggestion being the murder of black men by police on America's streets.
Don't try to disprove a claim he has done nothing to support.2021 blacks killed by police. Full List of Black People Killed By Police in 2021
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Only two countries in the world have confiscated all firearms. The vast majority just have sensible rules/laws/regulations. That's why America is high on the list for gun incidents.I already told you I am against it too. It is an attempt to get registration so that eventually the Government can confiscate all legal firearms. And you claiming that makes us against background checks is a lie we support the current laws.
Please demonstrate the necessary relationship between the laws in the UK, NZ, OZ etc, and their lower (than US) rates of gun-related violence.Only two countries in the world have confiscated all firearms. The vast majority just have sensible rules/laws/regulations. That's why America is high on the list for gun incidents.
Alright, if you won't take it to the appropriate thread, I'll address all that here.2021 blacks killed by police. Full List of Black People Killed By Police in 2021
Yes, there are justified shooting and perhaps even most? But here's something that speaks directly to the point. In Canada the police carry guns, as do police in America, and so we may need to look at the number of police shooting in both countries, per capita, to determine the answer on 'shooting being justified. As well as some other considerations that may answer the question.the article does not list the reason for the shooting but as in MOST police shootings the large majority were justified.
You could be right. Blacks in America are guilty of more crime per capita than whites in America. We need to examine the reasons for that. I'll begin by suggesting that black crime and behaviour has been created by whites refusing equality. Or, if you don't accept that then maybe you can offer another reason(s)?from the article
[Black people continue to be disproportionately impacted by police violence, the data shows. Black people account for 27 percent of those killed by police in 2021 (of those whose race is known), despite making up 13 percent of the U.S. population.]
this fails to mention that 37 percent of all violent crimes are committed by blacks so at 27 percent shot they are under represented according to crimes.
I'll accept your answer as possibly correct, with cautious reservations.From the article
[Black people are three times more likely to be killed by police, yet 1.3 times more likely to be unarmed compared to white people, according to MPV.]
Again fails to mention that blacks are 3 times more likely to be committing a violent crime then whites. And it fails to mention that blacks have a tendency to disobey cops when stopped, to resist and fight with cops.
Does that mean you feel gun regulation and low gun incidents to be a coincidence in the UK, Australia, New Zealand etc..? Amazing.Please demonstrate the necessary relationship between the laws in the UK, NZ, OZ etc, and their lower (than US) rates of gun-related violence.
# of shootings per capita does nothing to determine if the shootings, in general or specifically, are justified or not.Alright, if you won't take it to the appropriate thread, I'll address all that here.
Yes, there are justified shooting and perhaps even most? But here's something that speaks directly to the point. In Canada the police carry guns, as do police in America, and so we may need to look at the number of police shooting in both countries, per capita, to determine the answer on 'shooting being justified. As well as some other considerations that may answer the question.
I can't disagree with this until yu make an honest effort to demonstrare it to be true.You could be right. Blacks in America are guilty of more crime per capita than whites in America. We need to examine the reasons for that. I'll begin by suggesting that black crime and behaviour has been created by whites refusing equality.
No.Does that mean you feel gun regulation...
Bugger off, you can't even get it right on whose point you're trying to argue now!I can't disagree with this until yu make an honest effort to demonstrare it to be true.
