North Carolina gun regulation aimed at blacks backfires

[Otis Mayfield]

North Carolina earned its dismal ranking in large part due to its pistol purchase permit law, which was designed in the early 20th century to keep guns out of the hands of African Americans. Only in 2021 did Republicans in the General Assembly pass a bill to repeal the law.

This outdated, racist, and ineffective law kept many North Carolinians defenseless during 2020, as they feared for their safety amid surging violent crime and the coronavirus pandemic.

Citizens who have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, often in name only, were left waiting months to obtain permits to purchase guns, and over a year in some cases for the license to carry those guns legally. Ironically, the approval process that often takes sheriffs’ departments weeks and months to conduct is the same background check completed in mere minutes at gun stores.

Opinion: North Carolina earns dismal ranking in continued slide down gun rights rankings

NC’s archaic system of granting gun permits is ineffectual at preventing crime but effective in keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

www.fayobserver.com

Racist anti-gun law keeps guns out of the hands of whites too.

Do you think the gun problem could've been handled better?

 

[pknopp]

Predictably, Democrat Gov. Roy Cooper vetoed the legislation. Still, Republicans were slow to move on this critical repeal, missing past opportunities under a GOP governor and supermajorities in the legislature.

Nobody gets credit for doing something you know isn't going to pass when you didn't do it when it could have passed.

The answer is for everyone to ignore these laws.

 

[Oddball]

Can't a shitty law just be a shitty law, without the stale and disingenuous recrimination of being WACS!?

 

[Mac-7]

Racist anti-gun law keeps guns out of the hands of whites too.

This is a perfect example of liberal mental illness

if the law applies to both blacks and whites as the guilt-ridden white liberal authors of this opinion piece admit then its not racist

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

North Carolina earned its dismal ranking in large part due to its pistol purchase permit law, which was designed in the early 20th century to keep guns out of the hands of African Americans. Only in 2021 did Republicans in the General Assembly pass a bill to repeal the law.

This outdated, racist, and ineffective law kept many North Carolinians defenseless during 2020, as they feared for their safety amid surging violent crime and the coronavirus pandemic.

Citizens who have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, often in name only, were left waiting months to obtain permits to purchase guns, and over a year in some cases for the license to carry those guns legally. Ironically, the approval process that often takes sheriffs’ departments weeks and months to conduct is the same background check completed in mere minutes at gun stores.

Opinion: North Carolina earns dismal ranking in continued slide down gun rights rankings

NC’s archaic system of granting gun permits is ineffectual at preventing crime but effective in keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

www.fayobserver.com

Racist anti-gun law keeps guns out of the hands of whites too.

Do you think the gun problem could've been handled better?

A reminder that most of the early gun control measures were aimed at black folks......

Rest in Peace to another giant from North Carolina.....for some reason tho, not many so-called "Second Amendment Rights" folks mention him that much...hmmmm....wonder why...

 

[Oddball]

A reminder that most of the early gun control measures were aimed at black folks......

Rest in Peace to another giant from North Carolina.....for some reason tho, not many so-called "Second Amendment Rights" folks mention him that much...hmmmm....wonder why...

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Irrelevant race baiting is irrelevant.

BTW, it was the NRA that was standing up for the 2nd Amendment rights of blacks, Bubba.

 

[pknopp]

Irrelevant race baiting is irrelevant.

BTW, it was the NRA that was standing up for the 2nd Amendment rights of blacks, Bubba.

When asked to comment on the Philandro Castile case they were not interested in doing that.

 

[1srelluc]

Jim Crow is still alive and well in NC under the watchful eye of a dem governor......The race hustler's heads will explode over that one.

 

[Oddball]

When asked to comment on the Philandro Castile case they were not interested in doing that.

Red herring....Today's NRA isn't the one that stood up for the 2nd Amendment for blacks back in that day.

Wayne LaPierre is an embarrassment, and has been so since the day he took the reins at NRA.

 

[pknopp]

Red herring....Today's NRA isn't the one that stood up for the 2nd Amendment for blacks back in that day.

Wayne LaPierre is an embarrassment, and has been so since the day he took the reins at NRA.

What happened 100 years ago isn't relative to anything today.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Irrelevant race baiting is irrelevant.

BTW, it was the NRA that was standing up for the 2nd Amendment rights of blacks, Bubba.

Its ok to admit you didn't know who Robert Williams was...Robert Williams was an officially charted member of the NRA back in the 50's...





Until the NRA turned their backs on people like him......why the change??



You are either for gun rights FOR ALL AMERICANS or you are not....


There is a reason why folks don't mention a man who LITERALLY PUT HIS LIFE on the line for his beliefs...why is that?? Don't you folks value 2A activists??

 

[1srelluc]

It was not till my VCDL days that I really started to dislike the NRA and found out just how hard they worked against pro-2A grass root .orgs that tend to keep them at arm's length.....The NRA went out of their way to work at cross purposes against the VCDL.

The sooner the NRA dies (by their own hand by the looks of things) the better. Then, hopefully, it can be rebuilt for the better but not till "wayne" and every current board member is banished for life.

 

[pknopp]

It was not till my VCDL days that I really started to dislike the NRA and found out just how hard they worked against pro-2A grass root .orgs that tend to keep them at arm's length.....The NRA went out of their way to work at cross purposes against the VCDL.

The sooner the NRA dies (by their own hand by the looks of things) the better. Then, hopefully, it can be rebuilt for the better but not till "wayne" and every current board member is banished for life.

LaPierre stole from the NRA. Made them look really bad but yet he hangs on. It is no longer about the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Oddball]

Its ok to admit you didn't know who Robert Williams was...Robert Williams was an officially charted member of the NRA back in the 50's...

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Until the NRA turned their backs on people like him......why the change??

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You are either for gun rights FOR ALL AMERICANS or you are not....


There is a reason why folks don't mention a man who LITERALLY PUT HIS LIFE on the line for his beliefs...why is that?? Don't you folks value 2A activists??

Does that change the nature of my point?....Nope.

 

[Oddball]

What happened 100 years ago isn't relative to anything today.

That's easily the most stupid shit you'll say today....Still lots of time, but that's a high bar of stupidity.

It was relevant to the blacks who were able to exercise their 2nd A rights, numbskull.

 

[pknopp]

That's easily the most stupid shit you'll say today....Still lots of time, but that's a high bar of stupidity.

It was relevant to the blacks who were able to exercise their 2nd A rights, numbskull.

Which has NOTHING to do with who they are today.

 

[Oddball]

Which has NOTHING to do with who they are today.

I already stipulated as much, fucking dunce.

 

[bodecea]

North Carolina earned its dismal ranking in large part due to its pistol purchase permit law, which was designed in the early 20th century to keep guns out of the hands of African Americans. Only in 2021 did Republicans in the General Assembly pass a bill to repeal the law.

This outdated, racist, and ineffective law kept many North Carolinians defenseless during 2020, as they feared for their safety amid surging violent crime and the coronavirus pandemic.

Citizens who have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, often in name only, were left waiting months to obtain permits to purchase guns, and over a year in some cases for the license to carry those guns legally. Ironically, the approval process that often takes sheriffs’ departments weeks and months to conduct is the same background check completed in mere minutes at gun stores.

Opinion: North Carolina earns dismal ranking in continued slide down gun rights rankings

NC’s archaic system of granting gun permits is ineffectual at preventing crime but effective in keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

www.fayobserver.com

Racist anti-gun law keeps guns out of the hands of whites too.

Do you think the gun problem could've been handled better?

Look up the Mulford Act in California....pushed by then Gov. Reagan AND the NRA because of blacks open carrying.

 

[pknopp]

I already stipulated as much, fucking dunce.

Then there is no need to note what they once were in an discussion about what is going on today.

 

[Abatis]

Racist anti-gun law keeps guns out of the hands of whites too.

That has always been the siren song of gun control. It is often originally enacted with a wink and a nod, a particular limitation to be enforced on a particular segment of the population but then, as illegitimate power tends to do, it expands . . . Especially when the (usually unwritten) allowances in the law for favored people, become a threat to the powers that be.

This was especially true in the south and in states that had no right to arms provision in their constitutions.

In the South, those states used to advantage the legal fact that federal law only permitted whites to serve in the militia. Those states enacted laws that forbade Blacks to possess arms because the right to arms in the state was only recognized for those citizens in the militia. Of course that was never intended to be enforced on whites, even those with no militia attachment.

Federal militia law was modified in Reconstruction and those state laws faded away (of course to be replaced by Jim Crow).

Thing is, that racist original gun control law, a legal charade intending only to forbid arms to Blacks, which had been believed extinguished, was resurrected in the 20th Century. It was brought back to life in the federal courts in 1942, expanded to all citizens and used to extinguish the 2nd Amendment claims of any citizens of any races. That perversion persevered in the lower federal courts for 66 years, until Heller invalidated it.

Amazingly, we have people here still arguing the "militia right" interpretation . . . JoeB131 I'm talking about you.

Do you think the gun problem could've been handled better?

Ya think? The SCOTUS was derelict in its duty to the Constitution. Allowing anti-Constitutional legal theories like the "militia right" and "state's right" interpretations to fester and infect the law for 66 years was a travesty. Of course the liberals on the Court could not be trusted to use the Contribution to decide the legitimacy of gun laws.

The enforcement of the 2nd Amendment is decades behind the other rights secured in the Bill of Rights. Heller was a warning to governments to get the few laws that are constitutionally justifiable, onto solid footing.

What's coming is a "throw the baby out with the bathwater" situation. There are dozens of lower court decisions that sustained hundreds of gun laws that have zero legal support, all that needs to happen is a slight push and everything in states like NJ (Burton v Sills) and CA (Hickman v Block) will all come crashing down.

And I'm not talking about what's going to happen from NYSRPA v Bruen.