Hey RWs: if you're so opposed to raising the min. wage, what exactly do you think would boost wages?

[dannyboys]

A friend has a new car dealership for thirty years.
He always has a stack of applications on file.
Each week he sees which salesmen/women are selling the most vehicles.
The top five or six get all the shifts they want.
The next five or so get any shifts then available.
The salesperson who has sold the least number of vehicles but were given shifts is let go.
Shifts are carefully analyzed: Day of the week. Time of day. Weather. Paydays. Tax/Insurance time of year.
A dozen other factors.
The point is as in any business the best employees always rise to the top and stay there.
The salesperson who sells the most vehicles based on many metrics, as I stated above, each month is given incentives like an all expense paid trip for two to Maui.

 

[blackhawk]

I'm not opposed to raising the minimum wage I'm opposed to raising it to $15.00 dollars an hour.

 

[gipper]

I'm not opposed to raising the minimum wage I'm opposed to raising it to $15.00 dollars an hour.

The assholes in DC should just raise it to $50 per hour. Then millions of Americans would be without jobs and voting D every election....win/win.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

I'm not opposed to raising the minimum wage I'm opposed to raising it to $15.00 dollars an hour.

The assholes in DC should just raise it to $50 per hour. Then millions of Americans would be without jobs and voting D every election....win/win.

A stupid, and childish , response. The actual fact is that in terms of real dollars the minimum wage is at its lowest point in years and should be raised and tied directly to inflation so that this argument is OVER but neither side wants to fix shit.

Currently the wage should be around $11 an hour.

 

[whitehall]

Obama had a couple of years with a democrat majority and the full support of the media and all we got was "cash for clunkers". It's clear that democrats understand the system as well as republicans that small businesses can't afford to pay workers $15 per hour and the minimum wage isn't exactly a career choice. The dirty little secret is that democrats are able to use it as a political issue because they have the support of the liberal media.

 

[JoeNormal]

Learn a skill so you're worth more.

God are you people just immune to facts? Skilled jobs nowadays still pay SHIT. They are also extremely competitive. How is any of this not sinking in?

He's probably been retired for years and has no idea what level of skill is required to actually make a living wage.

 

[PredFan]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

A good economy increases wages. The economy gets better, businesses expand, more jobs are created, competition amongst employers leads to higher wages.

If you are talking about McDonalds, no burger flipper deserves $15 no matter how scarce they are.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Surprise surprise Billy only reads here what he wants to read.

Raise the EITC , raising the national Minimum wage don't do a God Damn thing to help the poor except make some with out a ******* job.


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You do know the minimum wage has been raised many times before and nothing catastrophic happened right? Yeah, sure, some small businesses would suffer, but millions of people would have higher wages. Prices may go up depending on how high, but it wouldn't be enough to offset the hundreds of dollars more a month people would make. Over time the boost to consumer spending would CREATE jobs.

So tell me jackass, how do we boost wages? We both know you have no idea.

You do know that by going from 7-15 an hour, millions are going to lose their job? You have to know this, right? UC Berkely already did this. You do know that don't you? You're not that stupid are you?

 

[gipper]

I'm not opposed to raising the minimum wage I'm opposed to raising it to $15.00 dollars an hour.

The assholes in DC should just raise it to $50 per hour. Then millions of Americans would be without jobs and voting D every election....win/win.

A stupid, and childish , response. The actual fact is that in terms of real dollars the minimum wage is at its lowest point in years and should be raised and tied directly to inflation so that this argument is OVER but neither side wants to fix shit.

Currently the wage should be around $11 an hour.

My post was meant to be tongue in cheek...

However, anyone who has studied the MW knows it is a jobs killer.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

Uhm, I dunno, knowing how to do something a little more involved than flipping hamburgers?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

A good economy increases wages. The economy gets better, businesses expand, more jobs are created, competition amongst employers leads to higher wages.

If you are talking about McDonalds, no burger flipper deserves $15 no matter how scarce they are.

Actually, you don't understand supply and demand any better than he does. Certainly if there were like 3 people in a given town who were willing to work at McDonalds, that McDonalds would be forced to pay $15 an hour, perhaps more, for a burger flipper. That's the whole point, Just like with any fungible, labor is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, and if the McDonalds franchise owner had a choice between paying ZERO an hour and not having any sales b/c no one would work at his store and paying $20 an hour and making some profit, he would surely choose to make some profit. Of course with the gluttony of workers we have available in this country that scenario would never come to play, but to just say "oh no burger flipper is ever worth $15 an hour " is stupid.

 

[PredFan]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

A good economy increases wages. The economy gets better, businesses expand, more jobs are created, competition amongst employers leads to higher wages.

If you are talking about McDonalds, no burger flipper deserves $15 no matter how scarce they are.

Actually, you don't understand supply and demand any better than he does. Certainly if there were like 3 people in a given town who were willing to work at McDonalds, that McDonalds would be forced to pay $15 an hour, perhaps more, for a burger flipper. That's the whole point, Just like with any fungible, labor is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, and if the McDonalds franchise owner had a choice between paying ZERO an hour and not having any sales b/c no one would work at his store and paying $20 an hour and making some profit, he would surely choose to make some profit. Of course with the gluttony of workers we have available in this country that scenario would never come to play, but to just say "oh no burger flipper is ever worth $15 an hour " is stupid.

No, I understand it perfectly. You are correct in everything you stated until the last. It isn't "stupid".

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Surprise surprise Billy only reads here what he wants to read.

Raise the EITC , raising the national Minimum wage don't do a God Damn thing to help the poor except make some with out a ******* job.


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You do know the minimum wage has been raised many times before and nothing catastrophic happened right? Yeah, sure, some small businesses would suffer, but millions of people would have higher wages. Prices may go up depending on how high, but it wouldn't be enough to offset the hundreds of dollars more a month people would make. Over time the boost to consumer spending would CREATE jobs.

So tell me jackass, how do we boost wages? We both know you have no idea.

Usually the min wage was only raised to a below market level for wages which is why it never hurt any businesses. Most were already paying at least that anyways

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Do you know what might raise wages? Kicking 11 million illegals out of this country. That is 11 million new job openings for American citizens.

 

[easyt65]

What?

A new President instead of the 1st ever NOT to have 1 single year of 3% growth.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Learn a skill so you're worth more.

Is there a skill and a corresponding position for everyone?

There isn't any shortage of skills to be learned

Answer the question.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

All I see from cons is " let the market work".
What market? What market forces are acting to keep wages flat for decades? Profits up, productivity up, those were historically the best upward forces acting on wages. What are they now? Could it be that there is simply be the absence of any significant advocates for workers?

The market provides you opportunity. It's on you to take advantage of it

By your logic there must be millions of unfilled 100K a yr jobs out there waiting for the slackers to get off of their ass and just get it. Pure fantasy.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

All I see from cons is " let the market work".
What market? What market forces are acting to keep wages flat for decades? Profits up, productivity up, those were historically the best upward forces acting on wages. What are they now? Could it be that there is simply be the absence of any significant advocates for workers?

Productivity is up because technology now allows unskilled laborers to perform tasks that only highly skilled people used to be able to do
And what sector of the economy has been outpacing others for a while now?

Technology

Answer the question.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Surprise surprise Billy only reads here what he wants to read.

Raise the EITC , raising the national Minimum wage don't do a God Damn thing to help the poor except make some with out a ******* job.


.

You do know the minimum wage has been raised many times before and nothing catastrophic happened right? Yeah, sure, some small businesses would suffer, but millions of people would have higher wages. Prices may go up depending on how high, but it wouldn't be enough to offset the hundreds of dollars more a month people would make. Over time the boost to consumer spending would CREATE jobs.

So tell me jackass, how do we boost wages? We both know you have no idea.

Again fool can't you read?

Wages is just a *******
number


Cost of living and buying power is what you should be after.



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What buying power? When you work to barely cover the basics you have no buying power.

http://www.newsweek.com/affordable-housing-rent-burden-census-income-inequality-373994

About time you are complaining About the democrats you voted for in your blue city and state.


Do yourself a favor, vote your wallet next time, locally vote republican.




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That makes no sense whatsoever. Elected officials don't control either wages or housing prices.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

its called the market -- and though liberals think you can legislate every problem they cant repeal the law of supply and demand.

I'll ask again since no one can seem to answer. What market forces have acted on wages to keep them flat for decades?