Here We Go: Teacher Shortages 22-23

[SweetSue92]

It's hard to believe, but school starts in late July in some areas, early August in some, and as late as the week after Labor Day in others (who have been out of school only since the end of June). As predicted, many districts are scrambling to hire teachers and school staff: I can't say it any better than this article, which states that ONE Florida county alone has 500 openings:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – Industry experts say the problem is pretty simple, nobody wants to be a teacher anymore. For multiple reasons, it’s seen less and less like a viable, fulfilling, career option.

The regional director of Teach for America said – the solution is simple – take steps to make teaching an attractive career once again.

Largest teachers union: Florida has 9,000+ teacher, staff vacancies for upcoming school year

The state of Florida is about 9-thousand teachers SHORT for the upcoming school year this fall – that’s according to the state’s largest union of education workers.

www.news4jax.com

I plan to keep this thread updated with teacher shortages around the nation and how districts are attempting to deal with the problem. Meanwhile, I'm sure it helps to highlight every hourly worker in a daycare who makes vile TikToks and screech about "Teacher groomers".

It seems we can't help but burn everything to the ground in 21st century America.

 

[SweetSue92]

1,000 teacher openings in middle Tennessee with just a few weeks until school opens. Some districts starting pay is $37,000/year. Good luck with that.

'A crisis:' There's 1,000 teacher openings in Middle Tennessee. The breakdown per district.

A NewsChannel 5 analysis shows more than 1,000 teacher openings during the first week of July. During the 2021-2022 school year, the state had 1,024 unfilled vacancies.

www.newschannel5.com

 

[strollingbones]

why would anyone teach in todays environment? parents are rabid and the admins are spineless..the minority is loud and proud (no gay reference) more the proud of the ignorance....book banning etc...

and yes look at the pay...and teachers having to pay for their own class supplies...the end of era of teachers teaching out of dedication and love of teaching...people say its okay for the low pay cause they only work 9 months a year....i swear i wish i could just punch those fools....

again a symptom of a county that doesnt value their children is the lack of free quality education...

 

[JoeB131]

I plan to keep this thread updated with teacher shortages around the nation and how districts are attempting to deal with the problem. Meanwhile, I'm sure it helps to highlight every hourly worker in a daycare who makes vile TikToks and screech about "Teacher groomers".

It seems we can't help but burn everything to the ground in 21st century America.

Wow, you mean that after years of the right wing DEMONIZING teachers, no one wants to sign up to be a teacher anymore.

Amazing!

In related news, water is wet.

 

[SweetSue92]

why would anyone teach in todays environment? parents are rabid and the admins are spineless..the minority is loud and proud (no gay reference) more the proud of the ignorance....book banning etc...

and yes look at the pay...and teachers having to pay for their own class supplies...the end of era of teachers teaching out of dedication and love of teaching...people say its okay for the low pay cause they only work 9 months a year....i swear i wish i could just punch those fools....

again a symptom of a county that doesnt value their children is the lack of free quality education...

Three points to pull out here:

1. parents

Many parents and families are wonderful, but if you look around at our culture, you can see there are issues. My conservative brethren want to make out that teachers are the "bad guys" and parents are the "good guys" but that's too simplistic. Take a look at the video of those small children hitting cops and cursing in MN for reference--they haven't even been to school yet. That's parenting--or lack thereof.

2. admin

Gerry Brooks is a principal in KY who does great education satire. He just did one of a principal saying, "hey yeah, I know we admin don't back you up when it comes to parents, but to make up for it, we put some flavored coffee creamer in the lounge."

This is very close to what happens. These are the "perks" of my profession.

3. 9 months of work

I know precious few districts that are off from Memorial Day-Labor Day anymore. Private schools, maybe. We have a 10 week break, well short of three months. At any rate, our salary is based on a 185 day school year and then spread out through the year. We do not get paid "over the summer" for "not working" or whatever.

 

[JoeB131]

hree points to pull out here:

1. parents

Many parents and families are wonderful, but if you look around at our culture, you can see there are issues. My conservative brethren want to make out that teachers are the "bad guys" and parents are the "good guys" but that's too simplistic. Take a look at the video of those small children hitting cops and cursing in MN for reference--they haven't even been to school yet. That's parenting--or lack thereof.

Those kids in MN act like that because cops have made themselves the enemy. That's why they act like that.

Again, your side has spent decades demonizing liberal teachers and liberal teacher unions.

2. admin

Gerry Brooks is a principal in KY who does great education satire. He just did one of a principal saying, "hey yeah, I know we admin don't back you up when it comes to parents, but to make up for it, we put some flavored coffee creamer in the lounge."

This is very close to what happens. These are the "perks" of my profession.

Um, wow, how is that any different than any other job? If you piss off the customers, you won't have a job for long. Parents are ultimately the customer of your profession. Some of them are happy if they just have 6 hours of free day care. Others get rightfully pissed off if little Timmy comes home not knowing how to read.

3. 9 months of work

I know precious few districts that are off from Memorial Day-Labor Day anymore. Private schools, maybe. We have a 10 week break, well short of three months. At any rate, our salary is based on a 185 day school year and then spread out through the year. We do not get paid "over the summer" for "not working" or whatever.

So you get 3 months of paid vacation? That's kind of awesome. What are you bitching about again?


Here are the real problems in education that I see... which is why 50% of new teachers don't last 5 years. And yes, some of these thoughts will not be terribly liberal.

1) The Teacher Unions make it impossible to fire inept or bad teachers.
2) Too many resources are dedicated to "Special Ed"- which means they spend thousands of dollars accommodating Corky the retard while neglecting kids who are actually going to be part of the workforce some day.
3) Teaching to the test. We make these kids take too many damned tests, we teach to the test, and if it isn't on the test, they don't bother with it. So not surprising that these kids crash and burn when they get to college or a job.
4) Geographic/economic inequity - Because the affluent don't have to send their kids to the urban schools, they don't care about them. I remember a while back when it was revealed that a high bureaucrat at the CPS sent her kids to private schools because CPS Schools weren't very good. There was a big outcry... from people who also send THEIR kids to private schools.

(Full Disclosure- I went to a Catholic School that has given Chicago FOUR Mayors, including both Mayor Daleys. )

 

[Unkotare]

Those kids in MN act like that because cops have made themselves the enemy. That's why they act like that.

Again, your side has spent decades demonizing liberal teachers and liberal teacher unions.



Um, wow, how is that any different than any other job? If you piss off the customers, you won't have a job for long. Parents are ultimately the customer of your profession. Some of them are happy if they just have 6 hours of free day care. Others get rightfully pissed off if little Timmy comes home not knowing how to read.



So you get 3 months of paid vacation? That's kind of awesome. What are you bitching about again?


Here are the real problems in education that I see... which is why 50% of new teachers don't last 5 years. And yes, some of these thoughts will not be terribly liberal.

1) The Teacher Unions make it impossible to fire inept or bad teachers.
2) Too many resources are dedicated to "Special Ed"- which means they spend thousands of dollars accommodating Corky the retard while neglecting kids who are actually going to be part of the workforce some day.
3) Teaching to the test. We make these kids take too many damned tests, we teach to the test, and if it isn't on the test, they don't bother with it. So not surprising that these kids crash and burn when they get to college or a job.
4) Geographic/economic inequity - Because the affluent don't have to send their kids to the urban schools, they don't care about them. I remember a while back when it was revealed that a high bureaucrat at the CPS sent her kids to private schools because CPS Schools weren't very good. There was a big outcry... from people who also send THEIR kids to private schools.

(Full Disclosure- I went to a Catholic School that has given Chicago FOUR Mayors, including both Mayor Daleys. )

More ignorant assholery in the education forum. Seems some people just love to pontificate on things they don't know about.

 

[BS Filter]

Those kids in MN act like that because cops have made themselves the enemy. That's why they act like that.

Again, your side has spent decades demonizing liberal teachers and liberal teacher unions.



Um, wow, how is that any different than any other job? If you piss off the customers, you won't have a job for long. Parents are ultimately the customer of your profession. Some of them are happy if they just have 6 hours of free day care. Others get rightfully pissed off if little Timmy comes home not knowing how to read.



So you get 3 months of paid vacation? That's kind of awesome. What are you bitching about again?


Here are the real problems in education that I see... which is why 50% of new teachers don't last 5 years. And yes, some of these thoughts will not be terribly liberal.

1) The Teacher Unions make it impossible to fire inept or bad teachers.
2) Too many resources are dedicated to "Special Ed"- which means they spend thousands of dollars accommodating Corky the retard while neglecting kids who are actually going to be part of the workforce some day.
3) Teaching to the test. We make these kids take too many damned tests, we teach to the test, and if it isn't on the test, they don't bother with it. So not surprising that these kids crash and burn when they get to college or a job.
4) Geographic/economic inequity - Because the affluent don't have to send their kids to the urban schools, they don't care about them. I remember a while back when it was revealed that a high bureaucrat at the CPS sent her kids to private schools because CPS Schools weren't very good. There was a big outcry... from people who also send THEIR kids to private schools.

(Full Disclosure- I went to a Catholic School that has given Chicago FOUR Mayors, including both Mayor Daleys. )

Whose children are they? Who has the final word on curriculum? Unless you say "the parents", you're the problem.

 

[BS Filter]

Fuck you bullies.

School district drops its threat to sue outspoken mom, as interest grows in her fight vs. inappropriate curricula - The Lion

A Wisconsin school district has withdrawn its warning of legal action against an outspoken parent, after she obtained legal counsel to defend herself against the district’s claims of defaming it. But in its June 28 statement ending the matter, the district nonetheless maintains it did nothing...

readlion.com

 

[Flash]

My wife is a retired school teacher. She taught for 30 years.

She said there is no way in hell she would teach in the public schools nowadays. Most of her teacher friends feel the same way.

 

[Care4all]

Whose children are they? Who has the final word on curriculum? Unless you say "the parents", you're the problem.

The parents elect board members that represent them, to make those decisions, no?

 

[BS Filter]

The parents elect board members that represent them, to make those decisions, no?

Correct. The problem is did the parents vote for this curriculum? Many didn't. Either they were kept in the dark or weren't awake.

 

[initforme]

Teaching is a no win situation. Someone crybabies are always mad. All 3 of my kids had a great public school education. Their teachers taught with rigor despite the whiny crybabies who believe their children are entitled to everything. All the bs for a pittance salary. Only a loser wonders why nobody will do it anymore. Kind of like the so called labor shortage made up stuff. People just believe if there's a job opening somebody has to be doing it so they can have THEIR stuff THEY want. It no longer should work this way. Want a worker? Pay up.

 

[initforme]

My daughter is a 2nd grade teacher. She is eligible to retire. The district is begging her to stay. She told them to stuff it. She will collect her pension and work in private sector and double her salary.

 

[BS Filter]

My daughter is a 2nd grade teacher. She is eligible to retire. The district is begging her to stay. She told them to stuff it. She will collect her pension and work in private sector and double her salary.

Good for her. Public school teachers and everyone would be better off if the unions were busted.

 

[bodecea]

It's hard to believe, but school starts in late July in some areas, early August in some, and as late as the week after Labor Day in others (who have been out of school only since the end of June). As predicted, many districts are scrambling to hire teachers and school staff: I can't say it any better than this article, which states that ONE Florida county alone has 500 openings:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – Industry experts say the problem is pretty simple, nobody wants to be a teacher anymore. For multiple reasons, it’s seen less and less like a viable, fulfilling, career option.

The regional director of Teach for America said – the solution is simple – take steps to make teaching an attractive career once again.

Largest teachers union: Florida has 9,000+ teacher, staff vacancies for upcoming school year

The state of Florida is about 9-thousand teachers SHORT for the upcoming school year this fall – that’s according to the state’s largest union of education workers.

www.news4jax.com

I plan to keep this thread updated with teacher shortages around the nation and how districts are attempting to deal with the problem. Meanwhile, I'm sure it helps to highlight every hourly worker in a daycare who makes vile TikToks and screech about "Teacher groomers".

It seems we can't help but burn everything to the ground in 21st century America.

School districts reap what they sow.

 

[initforme]

She is very pro union. They are a huge plus.

 

[bodecea]

Good for her. Public school teachers and everyone would be better off if the unions were busted.

Why are the schools worse in non-union states then?

 

[initforme]

The union helped put forth the retirement pension. Without it she'd still have to teach. See how that works? Plus if some crazy parent(most). Decod s to give her a hard time the union provides a lawyer.

 

[BS Filter]

Why are the schools worse in non-union states then?

Can't get much worse than Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, New Orleans, Minneapolis, Oakland, etc. Unions.