Help me understand something about Black culture / behaviors/ beliefs?

They don't put the Ebonics speaking ones on the cash register they put them in the back.

I may hire someone who speaks poor english to work on the line but he's not going in the executive offices.

And these blacks you hired may have been more comfortable interviewing with a brother. They need to loosen up when they are being interviewed by whitey.

Look white boy, I'm black and I'm telling YOU what's what. You have no argument or talk back to give me. Just listen and maybe you will learn the error of how you think about black people.

Asclepias I am not trying to be insulting to you. If I'm wrong tell me how or why but stop telling me that I haven't got a clue because I'm not black. You seem to know an awful lot about whites for someone who isn't white.

Did you see my post about being in college with young blacks and they couldn't even stand up in front of a class and give a speech? They still passed the class so consider that these college graduates are going out on interviews and can hardly speak english. I'm not kidding.

Maybe this isn't the case anymore? I mean that was the 1990's. Have inner city blacks learned to speak in the last 20 years? I am going to guess and say this problem still exists.

You really need to stop using a small number example to make these declarations. I was in speech classes where whites were too scared to stand up and speak. So what? You keep trying to believe you have something to say that we blacks need to listen to. You don't.

I think us liberals have coddled you blacks for way too long. Looks like Trump is doing a good job. Remember when he asked you what do you have to lose?

Good news: America’s crime and murder rates are down this year

Based on its preliminary analysis for 2017, the overall crime rate is projected to decline by 1.8 percent compared to 2016, the violent crime rate by 0.6 percent, and the murder rate by 2.5 percent.
You think Drumpf had something to do with? Whats your proof? The weather has been colder this year as well. Thats more likely to be the cause.
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
It wasn’t racism. He was a horrible neighbor just trust me. A white wouldn’t have gotten away with the shit he pulled.

And they didn’t experience racism that’s the point
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
It wasn’t racism. He was a horrible neighbor just trust me. A white wouldn’t have gotten away with the shit he pulled.

And they didn’t experience racism that’s the point
You didnt tell me how you know they didnt experience racism? Are you doing the white boy deflect?
 
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
It wasn’t racism. He was a horrible neighbor just trust me. A white wouldn’t have gotten away with the shit he pulled.

And they didn’t experience racism that’s the point
You didnt tell me how you know they didnt experience racism? Are you doing the white boy deflect?
Like I have to trust what you say sometimes trust me he was a horrible neighbor. Too many people living there, friends sleeping under the stairwell cause their mom wouldn’t let them sleep in the condo. Kids coming to my door wall hungry. Ghetto fights. Putting his boat on the shoreline thinking he could avoid the dues. Toys all over the lawn. Friends came and stole. We used to keep our doors open. No more. I could go on and on. Selling painkillers, not paying rent, asking for favors constantly. Trashed his place on the way out.

If they fined him he just didn’t pay.

See I’m the fool liberal who gives the brother the benefit of the doubt and he fully takes advantage. So you may experience what you think is racism and stereotyping but now I do it to everyone.

And to be fair I’ve had worst white neighbors. Fucking renters. We stopped letting people buy them to rent them. You can buy one and rent it but you have to show you’re moving out of the area and you can’t buy with the purpose of renting. But I don’t befriend anyone till they live here a year. Let everyone else vet them first
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
According to you every black experiences racism every time they walk outside. They just have to prove it. If you’re on the jury we know you’d be fair. Lol

Now blackish is on shhh
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.

Well there you have it folks...Blacks continuously bitch and cry about inequality, oppression and lack of opportunity yet they refuse to make a change....they say, “fuck the world, we’re going to continue doing what we do...it’s the world that’s fucked up...not us.”
Reputations are built on actions. Say that 1,000 times and report back please.

Have you ever thought that whites might just need to be the ones who change?

Whitey you have a 400 year reputation of racism. Say that 1,000 times and report that.

This nation elected a black President in favor of a white opponent.
How could anyone sane and not looking to hold onto an excuse for failure honestly believe that racism is still vast and prevalent?
Only a retarded monkey like you would think there is no racism because less than 44% of whites voted for Obama.

You fucking moron! That leaves a 56% majority of whites that are primarily racist. :)

Oh I see....your Neanderthal peanut brain has to believe that any white who didn’t vote for the Black dude HAS to be motivated by racism.
So what’s up with the 93% of Blacks that voted for the Black dude?
Racist fuckin Nigerians!
 
You aren't hiring anyone who is speaking ebonics. Look son I have hired people and I have hired your so called poor blacks and not one of them ever spoke any mother fucking ebonics. I have hired whites from the south and did not have any fucking problem understanding what they say. .You don't need to point out shit. You need to listen. There are 46 million blacks, probably 23 million eligible to work. Not all 23 million are speaking Ebonics. I've been to McDonalds in hoods and those kids standing at the cash register were not speaking ebonics. You are full of shit. Work on white folks please.

They don't put the Ebonics speaking ones on the cash register they put them in the back.

I may hire someone who speaks poor english to work on the line but he's not going in the executive offices.

And these blacks you hired may have been more comfortable interviewing with a brother. They need to loosen up when they are being interviewed by whitey.

Look white boy, I'm black and I'm telling YOU what's what. You have no argument or talk back to give me. Just listen and maybe you will learn the error of how you think about black people.

Asclepias I am not trying to be insulting to you. If I'm wrong tell me how or why but stop telling me that I haven't got a clue because I'm not black. You seem to know an awful lot about whites for someone who isn't white.

Did you see my post about being in college with young blacks and they couldn't even stand up in front of a class and give a speech? They still passed the class so consider that these college graduates are going out on interviews and can hardly speak english. I'm not kidding.

Maybe this isn't the case anymore? I mean that was the 1990's. Have inner city blacks learned to speak in the last 20 years? I am going to guess and say this problem still exists.

You really need to stop using a small number example to make these declarations. I was in speech classes where whites were too scared to stand up and speak. So what? You keep trying to believe you have something to say that we blacks need to listen to. You don't.
I’m trying to show some things are on your people not a behavior whites have to change.

Yes a lot of whites don’t get jobs because they don’t interview well too. But they don’t leave thinking the problem is racism.

I believe a few weeks ago you showed me that college educated blacks had a harder time finding jobs. I’m simply pointing out the ability to communicate intelligently isn’t being pushed in the ghettos. In fact you guys are arguing you shouldn’t have to change.

Either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’ve never been to a ghetto. I went to college with black kids from flint saginaw and Detroit. I remember my boy ephrum never knew any whites but first semester we were buddies. Second semester the brothers got a hold of him and suddenly he had a chip on his shoulder. He was suddenly hyper sensitive about race.

You guys need to let it go. Try a new approach
 
Last year we talked about Americans who’ve been out of work so long they’ve given up. Some of them must be blacks who thought they didn’t get hired because of racism. Well companies are hiring again and unemployment is low. Time to get out and start trying. But you got to be a good interview. They don’t care if you think it’s racism in fact if I thought you were that kind of black I wouldn’t hire you. Saying goes Fake it till you make it
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.

Well there you have it folks...Blacks continuously bitch and cry about inequality, oppression and lack of opportunity yet they refuse to make a change....they say, “fuck the world, we’re going to continue doing what we do...it’s the world that’s fucked up...not us.”
Reputations are built on actions. Say that 1,000 times and report back please.

Have you ever thought that whites might just need to be the ones who change?

Whitey you have a 400 year reputation of racism. Say that 1,000 times and report that.

This nation elected a black President in favor of a white opponent.
How could anyone sane and not looking to hold onto an excuse for failure honestly believe that racism is still vast and prevalent?
Only a retarded monkey like you would think there is no racism because less than 44% of whites voted for Obama.

You fucking moron! That leaves a 56% majority of whites that are primarily racist. :)

Oh I see....your Neanderthal peanut brain has to believe that any white who didn’t vote for the Black dude HAS to be motivated by racism.
So what’s up with the 93% of Blacks that voted for the Black dude?
Racist fuckin Nigerians!
You ignorant monkey. I'm Black. I dont have neanderthal DNA like you do. You claimed that voting for Obama meant whites were not racist. Your retarded ass doesnt get that if that is the case then the opposite applies for the monkeys like you that didnt vote for Obama. :)
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
According to you every black experiences racism every time they walk outside. They just have to prove it. If you’re on the jury we know you’d be fair. Lol

Now blackish is on shhh
You did the white boy deflect again and didnt even come close to addressing my post. :laugh:
 
They don't put the Ebonics speaking ones on the cash register they put them in the back.

I may hire someone who speaks poor english to work on the line but he's not going in the executive offices.

And these blacks you hired may have been more comfortable interviewing with a brother. They need to loosen up when they are being interviewed by whitey.

Look white boy, I'm black and I'm telling YOU what's what. You have no argument or talk back to give me. Just listen and maybe you will learn the error of how you think about black people.

Asclepias I am not trying to be insulting to you. If I'm wrong tell me how or why but stop telling me that I haven't got a clue because I'm not black. You seem to know an awful lot about whites for someone who isn't white.

Did you see my post about being in college with young blacks and they couldn't even stand up in front of a class and give a speech? They still passed the class so consider that these college graduates are going out on interviews and can hardly speak english. I'm not kidding.

Maybe this isn't the case anymore? I mean that was the 1990's. Have inner city blacks learned to speak in the last 20 years? I am going to guess and say this problem still exists.

You really need to stop using a small number example to make these declarations. I was in speech classes where whites were too scared to stand up and speak. So what? You keep trying to believe you have something to say that we blacks need to listen to. You don't.
I’m trying to show some things are on your people not a behavior whites have to change.

Yes a lot of whites don’t get jobs because they don’t interview well too. But they don’t leave thinking the problem is racism.

I believe a few weeks ago you showed me that college educated blacks had a harder time finding jobs. I’m simply pointing out the ability to communicate intelligently isn’t being pushed in the ghettos. In fact you guys are arguing you shouldn’t have to change.

Either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’ve never been to a ghetto. I went to college with black kids from flint saginaw and Detroit. I remember my boy ephrum never knew any whites but first semester we were buddies. Second semester the brothers got a hold of him and suddenly he had a chip on his shoulder. He was suddenly hyper sensitive about race.

You guys need to let it go. Try a new approach

I've been to ghettos. You are the dishonest one. The 3 backs you went to college with are not every black person. There are no chips n shoulders. The brothers didn't do anything. You showed yourself just like you are here and he got tired of it. That's usually what happens.

What I am saying to you is that you are not telling me anything and that your stereotypes are 99 percent false. Blacks are not having a hard time being hired because we can't speak properly. The study that shows how black sounding names written on resumes don't get interviews shows your assumption to be false on it's fucking face. .I say what I do as a black man and you keep arguing with me using more stereotypes about blacks. We don't need to listen to what whites have to tell us. OK? You whites are where you are through years of legislation that provided your asses advantages. And that includes Greeks. You didn't get where you are because all of you can speak proper English or how you wear your clothing. Get it? So like I said, I am black, you have no talk back or suggestions for me. You need to listen and that's all you need to be doing.

So you let it go white boy. You do not have a m- fucking thing to suggest to me that I need to do as a black man or to teach other blacks that we need to do.
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
According to you every black experiences racism every time they walk outside. They just have to prove it. If you’re on the jury we know you’d be fair. Lol

Now blackish is on shhh

Turn black then tell us what we experience,
 
I may hire someone who speaks poor english to work on the line but he's not going in the executive offices.

And these blacks you hired may have been more comfortable interviewing with a brother. They need to loosen up when they are being interviewed by whitey.

Look white boy, I'm black and I'm telling YOU what's what. You have no argument or talk back to give me. Just listen and maybe you will learn the error of how you think about black people.

Asclepias I am not trying to be insulting to you. If I'm wrong tell me how or why but stop telling me that I haven't got a clue because I'm not black. You seem to know an awful lot about whites for someone who isn't white.

Did you see my post about being in college with young blacks and they couldn't even stand up in front of a class and give a speech? They still passed the class so consider that these college graduates are going out on interviews and can hardly speak english. I'm not kidding.

Maybe this isn't the case anymore? I mean that was the 1990's. Have inner city blacks learned to speak in the last 20 years? I am going to guess and say this problem still exists.

You really need to stop using a small number example to make these declarations. I was in speech classes where whites were too scared to stand up and speak. So what? You keep trying to believe you have something to say that we blacks need to listen to. You don't.
I’m trying to show some things are on your people not a behavior whites have to change.

Yes a lot of whites don’t get jobs because they don’t interview well too. But they don’t leave thinking the problem is racism.

I believe a few weeks ago you showed me that college educated blacks had a harder time finding jobs. I’m simply pointing out the ability to communicate intelligently isn’t being pushed in the ghettos. In fact you guys are arguing you shouldn’t have to change.

Either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’ve never been to a ghetto. I went to college with black kids from flint saginaw and Detroit. I remember my boy ephrum never knew any whites but first semester we were buddies. Second semester the brothers got a hold of him and suddenly he had a chip on his shoulder. He was suddenly hyper sensitive about race.

You guys need to let it go. Try a new approach

I've been to ghettos. You are the dishonest one. The 3 backs you went to college with are not every black person. There are no chips n shoulders. The brothers didn't do anything. You showed yourself just like you are here and he got tired of it. That's usually what happens.

What I am saying to you is that you are not telling me anything and that your stereotypes are 99 percent false. Blacks are not having a hard time being hired because we can't speak properly. The study that shows how black sounding names written on resumes don't get interviews shows your assumption to be false on it's fucking face. .I say what I do as a black man and you keep arguing with me using more stereotypes about blacks. We don't need to listen to what whites have to tell us. OK? You whites are where you are through years of legislation that provided your asses advantages. And that includes Greeks. You didn't get where you are because all of you can speak proper English or how you wear your clothing. Get it? So like I said, I am black, you have no talk back or suggestions for me. You need to listen and that's all you need to be doing.

So you let it go white boy. You do not have a m- fucking thing to suggest to me that I need to do as a black man or to teach other blacks that we need to do.
When Sealy kicks your ass, you're in terrible shape.
 
Its apparent that the OP and other whites would love nothing more for Blacks to apologize for whatever behavior whites feel offends or frightens them. Well thats not going to happen. If whites are frightened about Ebonics, tough shit. They have the choice to learn it, deal with it, or distance themselves from it. I personally could give a shit which they choose. It takes intelligence to understand behaviors that are a mystery to you. Any other reactions is simply ignorance and low intellect. Pretty much what I expect from whites anyway.

Well there you have it folks...Blacks continuously bitch and cry about inequality, oppression and lack of opportunity yet they refuse to make a change....they say, “fuck the world, we’re going to continue doing what we do...it’s the world that’s fucked up...not us.”
Reputations are built on actions. Say that 1,000 times and report back please.

Have you ever thought that whites might just need to be the ones who change?

Whitey you have a 400 year reputation of racism. Say that 1,000 times and report that.

This nation elected a black President in favor of a white opponent.
How could anyone sane and not looking to hold onto an excuse for failure honestly believe that racism is still vast and prevalent?
Only a retarded monkey like you would think there is no racism because less than 44% of whites voted for Obama.

You fucking moron! That leaves a 56% majority of whites that are primarily racist. :)

Oh I see....your Neanderthal peanut brain has to believe that any white who didn’t vote for the Black dude HAS to be motivated by racism.
So what’s up with the 93% of Blacks that voted for the Black dude?
Racist fuckin Nigerians!

Hw about the 67 plus percent of Hispanics, 62 percent of Asians or the 68 percent of native Americans, pacific islanders, etc, who voted for Obama? .Were they racists too?

55 percent of all Whites voted for McCain even though he wanted to expand the war to Iran and continue the implementation of policies that created an economic collapse. Why?

You see white man, when we talk about racism it's because we have experienced it and can see it. You just blurt out the word as a defensive mechanism because you are white and racist so you want to try making comparisons where they don't exist to deny what you are. .
 
Look white boy, I'm black and I'm telling YOU what's what. You have no argument or talk back to give me. Just listen and maybe you will learn the error of how you think about black people.

Asclepias I am not trying to be insulting to you. If I'm wrong tell me how or why but stop telling me that I haven't got a clue because I'm not black. You seem to know an awful lot about whites for someone who isn't white.

Did you see my post about being in college with young blacks and they couldn't even stand up in front of a class and give a speech? They still passed the class so consider that these college graduates are going out on interviews and can hardly speak english. I'm not kidding.

Maybe this isn't the case anymore? I mean that was the 1990's. Have inner city blacks learned to speak in the last 20 years? I am going to guess and say this problem still exists.

You really need to stop using a small number example to make these declarations. I was in speech classes where whites were too scared to stand up and speak. So what? You keep trying to believe you have something to say that we blacks need to listen to. You don't.
I’m trying to show some things are on your people not a behavior whites have to change.

Yes a lot of whites don’t get jobs because they don’t interview well too. But they don’t leave thinking the problem is racism.

I believe a few weeks ago you showed me that college educated blacks had a harder time finding jobs. I’m simply pointing out the ability to communicate intelligently isn’t being pushed in the ghettos. In fact you guys are arguing you shouldn’t have to change.

Either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’ve never been to a ghetto. I went to college with black kids from flint saginaw and Detroit. I remember my boy ephrum never knew any whites but first semester we were buddies. Second semester the brothers got a hold of him and suddenly he had a chip on his shoulder. He was suddenly hyper sensitive about race.

You guys need to let it go. Try a new approach

I've been to ghettos. You are the dishonest one. The 3 backs you went to college with are not every black person. There are no chips n shoulders. The brothers didn't do anything. You showed yourself just like you are here and he got tired of it. That's usually what happens.

What I am saying to you is that you are not telling me anything and that your stereotypes are 99 percent false. Blacks are not having a hard time being hired because we can't speak properly. The study that shows how black sounding names written on resumes don't get interviews shows your assumption to be false on it's fucking face. .I say what I do as a black man and you keep arguing with me using more stereotypes about blacks. We don't need to listen to what whites have to tell us. OK? You whites are where you are through years of legislation that provided your asses advantages. And that includes Greeks. You didn't get where you are because all of you can speak proper English or how you wear your clothing. Get it? So like I said, I am black, you have no talk back or suggestions for me. You need to listen and that's all you need to be doing.

So you let it go white boy. You do not have a m- fucking thing to suggest to me that I need to do as a black man or to teach other blacks that we need to do.
When Sealy kicks your ass, you're in terrible shape.

Sealy can't kick my ass on the issue of being black. So when YOU think sealy has said something right about blacks sealy might want to rethink his position.
 
I'm of Irish and Russian background. I am a light pink with blue eyes. I voted for President Obama twice. I stood on a corner on election day holding a sign encouraging motorists to vote for him. This lumping of all persons of a particular racial/ethnic/religious background, and all persons of a particular gender together has got to stop. Otherwise, I might have to issue my list of what straight, white, "conservative" males ought, or must do.
I fondly recall that a white, straight, talented, Christian man, Bruce Springsteen, went on the campaign road with President Obama. He didn't have to do this, but his love of the U.S., its values, and it's people shown through.
As a "white" person, I'm still trying to figure out how to get the orange pervert in the Oval Office to STFU. He clearly is a person who does not hold to the same values that we Americans hold dear.
 
I'm of Irish and Russian background. I am a light pink with blue eyes. I voted for President Obama twice. I stood on a corner on election day holding a sign encouraging motorists to vote for him. This lumping of all persons of a particular racial/ethnic/religious background, and all persons of a particular gender together has got to stop. Otherwise, I might have to issue my list of what straight, white, "conservative" males ought, or must do.
I fondly recall that a white, straight, talented, Christian man, Bruce Springsteen, went on the campaign road with President Obama. He didn't have to do this, but his love of the U.S., its values, and it's people shown through.
As a "white" person, I'm still trying to figure out how to get the orange pervert in the Oval Office to STFU. He clearly is a person who does not hold to the same values that we Americans hold dear.

Thank you. We know that whites voted for Obama but these guys here want to pretend that if not for whites Obama would ever have won. They want to pretend that the mere election of Obama means this nation is not racist. I've heard this silly argument so many times before and no doubt you have also. It's 2018 and it's time racist white men shut up. Racist White men no longer get to define what's American, what is "normal" and what every body else should do in order to succeed. White men are where they are because of legislation. Not more intelligence, education, or initiative. The government gave them opportunity they refused to give all others and you know that as a white lady who is woke.

We give the orders now, that's how I see it. All white men who want to share in power instead of dominating the power are more than welcome to be with us. They exist and are not included in those I have mentioned in my post. I'm taking about these racist white men who think hey are superior. when in reality they have been nothing but wards of the government.
 
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
According to you every black experiences racism every time they walk outside. They just have to prove it. If you’re on the jury we know you’d be fair. Lol

Now blackish is on shhh
You did the white boy deflect again and didnt even come close to addressing my post. :laugh:

I know he wasn't evicted because of racism because I experienced him. Of course he probably saw lots of racism just like you do but again, maybe it wasn't racism. Maybe he was such a bad neighbor that's why people didn't like him. Had nothing to do with his color.

But he made us more racist by being the stereotype everyone fears.

I remember him and his old lady got in a fight. She pulled a gun on him. Then she pulled a huge tree branch out of the woods and she was going to smash his doorwall. I remember I had to hold his gun for him because the cops were coming and either he wasn't supposed to have a gun or the gun was hot.

See I befriended this guy. He was nice but sooo fucking ghetto. I called them the Clumps because they were fat like in that Eddie Murphy movie. The entire family was fat. They all had the sugar. LOL.
 
But that is what we are saying. White people are hiring blacks who speak Ebonics. We’re trying to point out some of the things black people could do to improve their job prospects. We have Southerners the same advice. If you don’t want to take it then remain poor.
Thats ok if they hire Blacks that speak Ebonics. They should make sure they also speak standard english if they are going to be interacting with the public. I tell Black people that all the time and I am far from the only one. I speak both but my preference is Ebonics. What I dont like is the tendency for whites and uncle toms to label Ebonics as ignorance. Thats like telling Asian people that speaking their language is ignorance.
What do you say about the bad black employee or neighbor who sues for racism when he or she is fired or evicted?

This is why some white people are skeptical when blacks cry racism? You say we dont know because we aren’t black well I can tell you my horrible neighbor wasn’t evicted because of racism but we had to get a lawyer.

I’m sure he was sure it was racism just like you’re sure. But he was wrong
I say more power to them. If they experienced racism while being a bad employee then they should sue. The problem is that unless they have proof they wont win. So short of the person that fired them admitting to racism there is no way they could win.

How do you know your neighbor wasnt evicted because of racism and why did you have to get an attorney?
According to you every black experiences racism every time they walk outside. They just have to prove it. If you’re on the jury we know you’d be fair. Lol

Now blackish is on shhh
You did the white boy deflect again and didnt even come close to addressing my post. :laugh:

I remember one day he woke me up and said, "hey man, you need to ride me to the store" I said, "man I was up late and I'm still sleeping, sorry" and he got MAD!!! As if I was obligated to do whatever the fuck he asked me to do? He said "that's bullshit man you're an asshole" and I said, "oh so I'm cool as long as I do whatever you ask but the second I say no to something I'm an asshole? Man, FUCK YOU" and then I got into fighting stance. He said, "oh you want to fight me?" I said "if you come over here fucking with me again like this I'll beat your fucking ass. Don't bother me anymore ok?"

The thing about guys like this is they are shameless. The next day he acted like nothing happened. Why? Because he may need me for something again in the future. I certainly didn't need shit from him. I befriended him because I'm a nice guy/sucker.
 
I may hire someone who speaks poor english to work on the line but he's not going in the executive offices.

And these blacks you hired may have been more comfortable interviewing with a brother. They need to loosen up when they are being interviewed by whitey.

Look white boy, I'm black and I'm telling YOU what's what. You have no argument or talk back to give me. Just listen and maybe you will learn the error of how you think about black people.

Asclepias I am not trying to be insulting to you. If I'm wrong tell me how or why but stop telling me that I haven't got a clue because I'm not black. You seem to know an awful lot about whites for someone who isn't white.

Did you see my post about being in college with young blacks and they couldn't even stand up in front of a class and give a speech? They still passed the class so consider that these college graduates are going out on interviews and can hardly speak english. I'm not kidding.

Maybe this isn't the case anymore? I mean that was the 1990's. Have inner city blacks learned to speak in the last 20 years? I am going to guess and say this problem still exists.

You really need to stop using a small number example to make these declarations. I was in speech classes where whites were too scared to stand up and speak. So what? You keep trying to believe you have something to say that we blacks need to listen to. You don't.
I’m trying to show some things are on your people not a behavior whites have to change.

Yes a lot of whites don’t get jobs because they don’t interview well too. But they don’t leave thinking the problem is racism.

I believe a few weeks ago you showed me that college educated blacks had a harder time finding jobs. I’m simply pointing out the ability to communicate intelligently isn’t being pushed in the ghettos. In fact you guys are arguing you shouldn’t have to change.

Either you’re being intellectually dishonest or you’ve never been to a ghetto. I went to college with black kids from flint saginaw and Detroit. I remember my boy ephrum never knew any whites but first semester we were buddies. Second semester the brothers got a hold of him and suddenly he had a chip on his shoulder. He was suddenly hyper sensitive about race.

You guys need to let it go. Try a new approach

I've been to ghettos. You are the dishonest one. The 3 backs you went to college with are not every black person. There are no chips n shoulders. The brothers didn't do anything. You showed yourself just like you are here and he got tired of it. That's usually what happens.

What I am saying to you is that you are not telling me anything and that your stereotypes are 99 percent false. Blacks are not having a hard time being hired because we can't speak properly. The study that shows how black sounding names written on resumes don't get interviews shows your assumption to be false on it's fucking face. .I say what I do as a black man and you keep arguing with me using more stereotypes about blacks. We don't need to listen to what whites have to tell us. OK? You whites are where you are through years of legislation that provided your asses advantages. And that includes Greeks. You didn't get where you are because all of you can speak proper English or how you wear your clothing. Get it? So like I said, I am black, you have no talk back or suggestions for me. You need to listen and that's all you need to be doing.

So you let it go white boy. You do not have a m- fucking thing to suggest to me that I need to do as a black man or to teach other blacks that we need to do.

Yes you blacks have it all figured out and you are doing everything right. Keep up the good work.
 

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