Hegseth renames USNS Harvey Milk. Now named USNS Oscar V. Peterson

[JoeB131]

You dont name warships after gay civil rights figures. You name them after warriors and presidents.

Well, it isn't a warship, it's a support ship.

And if we can name an aircraft carrier after a racist like Stennis, we can name an oiler after Harvey Milk.

 

[Godboy]

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And states. I was in Bremerton when the Battleship Missouri left there. I loved it -- pipers and all.


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I lived in Washington all my life, but i moved out of there a few years ago. Democrats ruined that state, especially in Seattle.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I lived in Washington all my life, but i moved out of there a few years ago. Democrats ruined that state, especially in Seattle.

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Absolutely! There are a few things I'll always miss about what Seattle used to be, but not enough to ever drive me back there.

When I moved from Port Angeles in a 26-foot U-Haul, we drove way out of the way so as to avoid anything between Seattle and Olympia.


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[Godboy]

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Absolutely! There are a few things I'll always miss about what Seattle used to be, but not enough to ever drive me back there.

When I moved from Port Angeles in a 26-foot U-Haul, we drove way out of the way so as to avoid anything between Seattle and Olympia.


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I used to work at clubs in Seattle 20 years ago. I literally had an apartment IN Pike Place Market. We could close down the bar and walk home every night at 3 a.m. with no issues. That place is a drug infested hell hole now and not safe at all.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I used to work at clubs in Seattle 20 years ago. I literally had an apartment IN Pike Place Market. We could close down the bar and walk home every night at 3 a.m. with no issues. That place is a drug infested hell hole now and not safe at all.

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Yeah, I went to work at Lowell's, and folks told me that was a requirement for becoming an honorary Seattle native. I managed it for about a week, and the stairs nearly did me in.


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[westwall]

I used to work at clubs in Seattle 20 years ago. I literally had an apartment IN Pike Place Market. We could close down the bar and walk home every night at 3 a.m. with no issues. That place is a drug infested hell hole now and not safe at all.

Yup

 

[toobfreak]

This is definitely righting the ship.

Let's see, who to name a naval ship after?

• A decorated WWII Hero.
• A California queer who based his dubious career all on his faggotry.

Decisions, decisions.

 

[Fugazi]

That's the one that is proven. There are multiple reports he shacked up with a 14 year old as well. There is one report he hooked up with an 11 year old, that report was disappeared from the police files before Milk ran for office.

A SF PD lt. who has since passed away told me about it.

Did he happen to tell you where Hoffa was buried as well?

 

[toobfreak]

A person has to be prepubescent to be considered the victim of pedophilia.

Technicalities, Tas. OK, maybe that is better termed "corrupting the morals of a minor," but the question remains, a 16 year old is still a minor, and so, Milk was having sex with a child.

I think West was using the term in the broader sense of the person being UNDERAGE. And the logic follows that where you see smoke, there is fire. I seriously doubt that 16 year old was Milk's only child partner.

Either way, with all the fine, brave, deserving fighting men out there, it was a cold slap in the face to award naming that ship after Milk.

 

[westwall]

Did he happen to tell you where Hoffa was buried as well?

Wrong city

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Pete hegseth is a drunk and has no business talking about anything military.

Your hero gavin newsom is a falling down drunk.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Why do you support not honoring civil rights figures?

Milk was a pedo a not civil rights figure. Same with MLk who was a plagiarist and a rapist and a white-hating racist.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Well, it isn't a warship, it's a support ship.

And if we can name an aircraft carrier after a racist like Stennis, we can name an oiler after Harvey Milk.

You want racist look at MLK and we have named millions of things after him.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's see, who to name a naval ship after?

• A decorated WWII Hero.
• A California queer who based his dubious career all on his faggotry.

Decisions, decisions.

Okay, which one actually made a contribution?

One guy died on an unimportant ship in an indecisive battle.

The other guy made substantial contributions to the human rights of gay Americans, and was murdered by a homophobic idiot.

They both served their country. Both died in good causes.

 

[OODA_Loop]

No, it wasn't.

The only reason why the South was important was cotton.

Sure it was. Egypt had already taken a substantial bite out of Southern cotton.

By the end of the war in 1865, there were an estimated 5-6 million head of cattle in Texas, a massive surplus that dwarfed the state‘s pre-war cattle population. At the same time, the post-war years saw a growing demand for beef in the rapidly-growing cities of the North. Beef prices in the North were several times higher than in Texas – a steer worth $5 in Texas could fetch $40 or more in Chicago or New York.

These conditions set the stage for the great cattle boom of the late 1860s and 1870s, as Texas ranchers and cattle buyers saw an opportunity to make substantial profits by driving cattle north to the railheads of Kansas and beyond.

The American Civil War and the Transformation of the Cattle Industry - History Tools

From 1861-1865, the United States was engaged in a brutal civil war, as northern and southern armies fought over issues such as slavery, states’...

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[JoeB131]

Sure it was. Egypt had already taken a substantial bite out of Southern cotton.

By the end of the war in 1865, there were an estimated 5-6 million head of cattle in Texas, a massive surplus that dwarfed the state‘s pre-war cattle population. At the same time, the post-war years saw a growing demand for beef in the rapidly-growing cities of the North. Beef prices in the North were several times higher than in Texas – a steer worth $5 in Texas could fetch $40 or more in Chicago or New York.

These conditions set the stage for the great cattle boom of the late 1860s and 1870s, as Texas ranchers and cattle buyers saw an opportunity to make substantial profits by driving cattle north to the railheads of Kansas and beyond.

The American Civil War and the Transformation of the Cattle Industry - History Tools

From 1861-1865, the United States was engaged in a brutal civil war, as northern and southern armies fought over issues such as slavery, states’...

www.historytools.org

Wow... that was...totally meaningless.

Try to focus, here, guy, the discussion was, whether it was a good idea to let the Confederate Traitors off with a wrist slap. Given we are STILL struggling with race relations to this day, 150 years later, the obvious answer to that is "No."

 

[OODA_Loop]

Wow... that was...totally meaningless.

Try to focus, here, guy, the discussion was, whether it was a good idea to let the Confederate Traitors off with a wrist slap. Given we are STILL struggling with race relations to this day, 150 years later, the obvious answer to that is "No."

There were other reasons to "let them up easy" as demonstrated by the reliance on a functioning Southern agrarian industry as soon as it could be restored. They also let CS Soldiers keep, horses, mules and small arms.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why do you support not honoring civil rights figures?

Honor them with a plaque in the Obama museum. NOT the name of a warship.

 

[JoeB131]

There were other reasons to "let them up easy" as demonstrated by the reliance on a functioning Southern agrarian industry as soon as it could be restored. They also let CS Soldiers keep, horses, mules and small arms.

We weren't talking about the CS Soldiers.

We were talking about the Generals and Politicians who instigated the war.

Those bastards should have been hanged and their reputations blackened (no pun intended) in the history books.

Just like in Post-War Germany. We hanged the Nazis and let the average German get back to work. There are no ships or buidlings or installations named after Dead Nazis.

 

[OODA_Loop]

We weren't talking about the CS Soldiers.

We were talking about the Generals and Politicians who instigated the war.

Those bastards should have been hanged and their reputations blackened (no pun intended) in the history books.

Just like in Post-War Germany. We hanged the Nazis and let the average German get back to work. There are no ships or buidlings or installations named after Dead Nazis.

Is there a point where a state, say California, has had enough of Trump and MAGA and wants to secede and has the sovereignty to do so or should the Federal forces quell such activity?