Zone1 Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God

[BreezeWood]

And, that the Lord again talks directly to us through this apostles and prophets of today.

the above is not true - the heavens intentions are the same for all living beings - and are not the privy to a select few who like the kkk the congregations chose who to listen to - c-bear. for then society to hear their unjust forbearance.

were what they claim your special prophets true why refer to any desert bible - there is nothing there contributed by jesus and who else are there ignored by those books too many to be counted far grater than those who have lied for their notoriety and recorded history of corruption in their names.

you would make sense to rewrite the desert bibles than writing your own - they all three have the same preamble ... false commandments, religions of apartheid and hereditary idolatry of one kind or another ... the opposite of the teachings during the 1st century.

 

[irosie91]

the above is not true - the heavens intentions are the same for all living beings - and are not the privy to a select few who like the kkk the congregations chose who to listen to - c-bear. for then society to hear their unjust forbearance.

were what they claim your special prophets true why refer to any desert bible - there is nothing there contributed by jesus and who else are there ignored by those books too many to be counted far grater than those who have lied for their notoriety and recorded history of corruption in their names.

you would make sense to rewrite the desert bibles than writing your own - they all three have the same preamble ... false commandments, religions of apartheid and hereditary idolatry of one kind or another ... the opposite of the teachings during the 1st century.

oh breezie----try to take up a new hobby

 

[OneIsTheWord]

That "person" came shortly after the last apostle before Paul and John died. Most likely, even before since there were no new apostles called after Paul and John. So, the Gospel was changed, polluted by those who came after. By the time the Catholic Church was organized, they preached of another Jesus that is different from Jesus of Nazareth. For nearly 1800 years the "another" Jesus was preached. This meant that a restoration of the knowledge of Jesus Christ as he was before his resurrection was necessary and the restitution of all things Jesus Christ could again be taught and ordinance performed with authority that had been lost too. Only in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does the true Gospel of Jesus Christ exist in its fulness that we need for salvation and exaltation.

The cup of Indetation​

When they finish their testimony, the beast ascending out of the bottomless pit will war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies will lie in the streets of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Hear the word of the Lord, You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to the law of our God, You people of Gomorrah:
"To what purpose are the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says the Lord. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or lambs or goats.
And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.
"For who will have pity on you, O Jerusalem? Or who will bemoan you? Or who will turn aside to ask how you are doing?
You have forsaken Me," says the Lord, "You have gone backward. Therefore, I will stretch out My hand against you and destroy you; I am weary of relenting!
(For many nations and great kings shall be served by them also; and I will repay them according to their deeds and according to the works of their own hands.)' "
For thus says the Lord God of Israel to me: "Take this wine cup of fury from My hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send you, to drink it.
And they will drink and stagger and go mad because of the sword that I will send among them."
Then I took the cup from the Lord's hand, and made all the nations drink, to whom the Lord had sent me:
Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and its princes, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, a hissing, and a curse, as it is this day;
Rev 11:7-8; Isaiah 1:10-11; Rev 18:4-6 ; Jer 15:5-6; Jer 25:14-18 (NKJV)

 

[hobelim]

You have been provided plenty to know their is one living Godhead. The three agree in one.

The fact that God according to scripture not to mention logic is UNEQUALLED and there is no other God in existence either equal to, above, or below him, precludes the possibility of three persons in one Godhead.

I understand that this is YOUR "belief" but it is just the same belief that preexisted Christianity. Mithraism, which was the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military that became the Roman Catholic Church in 325ce. WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN IS THE ANTICHRIST. A false counterfeit substitute Jesus.

A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic, anti-female religion. Its priesthood consisted of celibate men only.

 

[hobelim]

your Normalcy Bias prevents you from hearing and seeing this clearly.

Normalcy bias? Seriously? Like 1+1+1= 3? Don't be ridiculous. Some things are true, others things are false.

So here is your dilemma. If God is God then he is already the God of every sphere of intelligent life, every planet in existence throughout the entire universe. You hoping to be a god of your own planet one day reveals the satanic lie that you fell for whenever you first ate the fetid fruit of whatever conman told you that flat out bullshit.

As if you or any created creature high or low who owes its existence to God could ever compare to God. Shota.
.

 

[Cougarbear]

where do you see an accusation against YOU in my post-----or even an accusation against
Mormons other than CORRECTLY noting that you did not just disagree with the notions of
of other christians----you denigrated them. "falling into a apostasy" is not a compliment.
There is a bloody history associated with that ideation

You said it again. You said I denigrated the people. No I don’t. I said their doctrine and ordinations are false and needed to be restored. The people tend to follow when there is no way for them to read for themselves the scriptures. I’m confident when in the spirit world most Catholics and mainstream Christians will accept the restored Gospel and except their vicarious work we do for them.

 

[hobelim]

Then I took the cup from the Lord's hand, and made all the nations drink, to whom the Lord had sent me:
Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and its princes, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, a hissing, and a curse, as it is this day;

"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad: such is the sword that I am sending among them"

"Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant."

From is mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."

"Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou has given them blood to drink."

"Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

 

[Cougarbear]

the above is not true - the heavens intentions are the same for all living beings - and are not the privy to a select few who like the kkk the congregations chose who to listen to - c-bear. for then society to hear their unjust forbearance.

were what they claim your special prophets true why refer to any desert bible - there is nothing there contributed by jesus and who else are there ignored by those books too many to be counted far grater than those who have lied for their notoriety and recorded history of corruption in their names.

you would make sense to rewrite the desert bibles than writing your own - they all three have the same preamble ... false commandments, religions of apartheid and hereditary idolatry of one kind or another ... the opposite of the teachings during the 1st century.

So, you think that when God is speaking to you, he’s also speaking to everyone. Yet, I don’t see or hear anything. You haven’t produced anything written or spoken. I have to conclude it’s all in your head. Because you don’t share anything with us. You want us to blindly follow your narcissism.
Now, God will talk to anyone who honestly wants to communicate with him. We all can be influenced by the Holy Ghost and truth. But, his organization is led through apostle and prophets.

 

[Cougarbear]

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The cup of Indetation​

When they finish their testimony, the beast ascending out of the bottomless pit will war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies will lie in the streets of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Hear the word of the Lord, You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to the law of our God, You people of Gomorrah:
"To what purpose are the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says the Lord. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or lambs or goats.
And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.
"For who will have pity on you, O Jerusalem? Or who will bemoan you? Or who will turn aside to ask how you are doing?
You have forsaken Me," says the Lord, "You have gone backward. Therefore, I will stretch out My hand against you and destroy you; I am weary of relenting!
(For many nations and great kings shall be served by them also; and I will repay them according to their deeds and according to the works of their own hands.)' "
For thus says the Lord God of Israel to me: "Take this wine cup of fury from My hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send you, to drink it.
And they will drink and stagger and go mad because of the sword that I will send among them."
Then I took the cup from the Lord's hand, and made all the nations drink, to whom the Lord had sent me:
Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and its princes, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, a hissing, and a curse, as it is this day;
Rev 11:7-8; Isaiah 1:10-11; Rev 18:4-6 ; Jer 15:5-6; Jer 25:14-18 (NKJV)

The RCC is not led by apostles and prophets. Popes have stated they are no apostles or prophets. The RCC has no foundation.

 

[Cougarbear]

The fact that God according to scripture not to mention logic is UNEQUALLED and there is no other God in existence either equal to, above, or below him, precludes the possibility of three persons in one Godhead.

I understand that this is YOUR "belief" but it is just the same belief that preexisted Christianity. Mithraism, which was the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military that became the Roman Catholic Church in 325ce. WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN IS THE ANTICHRIST. A false counterfeit substitute Jesus.

A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic, anti-female religion. Its priesthood consisted of celibate men only.

What you described is a counterfeit of the true Godhead. The true Godhead are Elohim, Jehovah(Jesus), The Holy Ghost.

 

[irosie91]

You said it again. You said I denigrated the people. No I don’t. I said their doctrine and ordinations are false and needed to be restored. The people tend to follow when there is no way for them to read for themselves the scriptures. I’m confident when in the spirit world most Catholics and mainstream Christians will accept the restored Gospel and except their vicarious work we do for them.

same thing Mr. Bear----as you know----after all---the Inquisition was a benign project which was merely
employed to correct the WRONG THINK that plagued the world---the ignorance and the stubborn refusal
to ACCEPT THE TRUTH----for the record---muslims do the same shit. A very good example of the kind of
GOODNESS you preach. Way back in the day----approx the mid 1930s, my hubby's mother lost her father
to an illness----She was a vigorous girl of about 12. One of the MOST BEAUTIFUL laws of the koran is
the DHIMMI ORPHAN LAW. When a DHIMMI (in that country that meant jew) child became orphaned
of its father----the lucky orphan became the possession of the local "imam"---the 'governor' of the area.
The lucky orphan thus had the good fortune to become a muslim----and legal sex object for the Imam or
whoever. because the lucky orphan was SAVED from the darkness of non islam-----for the record---christian law came up with a very similar procedure----confiscation of kids is that for which Pope Frances apologized
to the natives of Canada----Your theory is right there on the apex of a very SLIPPERY SLOPE.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

The RCC is not led by apostles and prophets. Popes have stated they are no apostles or prophets. The RCC has no foundation.

Ezekiel 2 1-5

 

[hobelim]

What you described is a counterfeit of the true Godhead. The true Godhead are Elohim, Jehovah(Jesus), The Holy Ghost.

ATTENTION! I REPEAT! ATTENTION! I REPEAT! NOW HEAR THIS!

The Holy Spirit, the very Spirit of truth, wants you to know;

You don't have to wait to be a god. You are already the god of your very own delusional fantasy world.

Shouldn't a god in training have better things to do than try and convince intelligent people you are not insane? Now off you go dingbat! There is a planet out there somewhere in the universe waiting for its god to show up.










So let it be written. So let it be done!

 

[Cougarbear]

Normalcy bias? Seriously? Like 1+1+1= 3? Don't be ridiculous. Some things are true, others things are false.

So here is your dilemma. If God is God then he is already the God of every sphere of intelligent life, every planet in existence throughout the entire universe. You hoping to be a god of your own planet one day reveals the satanic lie that you fell for whenever you first ate the fetid fruit of whatever conman told you that flat out bullshit.

As if you or any created creature high or low who owes its existence to God could ever compare to God. Shota.
.

That is your run to response or normalcy bias. God the Father (Elohim) is the Father God of our Universe. Jehovah(Jesus) is one of His Sons, greatest of all intelligences in His Universe. He brought Jehovah in as a councilor, wonderful councilor and part of His Godhead. Then, another Intelligence that has the unique ability to be in all things at the same time in His Universe, the Holy Ghost. He is a councilor, comforter, communicator and also brought into His Godhead. That’s why the scripture says they AGREE in one.

Elohim is our Father. Not a dictator. He wants the best for us without destroying our individual intelligence and free will. Where do you think it says He doesn’t want for us to inherit all that He has? Including leading us to leading our own Universe? Share me where it says this in the Bible. You can’t. So, I choose to comprehend in the Bible where it says we can inherit all of what our Father has. I choose to follow apostles and prophets of old and new. Not members of the Sanhedrin and the long ancestors of them called rabbis and Popes.

 

[Cougarbear]

same thing Mr. Bear----as you know----after all---the Inquisition was a benign project which was merely
employed to correct the WRONG THINK that plagued the world---the ignorance and the stubborn refusal
to ACCEPT THE TRUTH----for the record---muslims do the same shit. A very good example of the kind of
GOODNESS you preach. Way back in the day----approx the mid 1930s, my hubby's mother lost her father
to an illness----She was a vigorous girl of about 12. One of the MOST BEAUTIFUL laws of the koran is
the DHIMMI ORPHAN LAW. When a DHIMMI (in that country that meant jew) child became orphaned
of its father----the lucky orphan became the possession of the local "imam"---the 'governor' of the area.
The lucky orphan thus had the good fortune to become a muslim----and legal sex object for the Imam or
whoever. because the lucky orphan was SAVED from the darkness of non islam-----for the record---christian law came up with a very similar procedure----confiscation of kids is that for which Pope Frances apologized
to the natives of Canada----Your theory is right there on the apex of a very SLIPPERY SLOPE.

By your instructions we never should share beliefs with anyone. Exactly what Satan wants. Your thought process is the slippery slope. The real truth of the real only Godhead will yield good, not evil. That doesn’t mean there won’t be an occasional devil that creeps in. What won’t happen they will be there long and create your examples of genocide like the Spanish Inquisition or the Holocaust. So no, you are wrong.

 

[irosie91]

By your instructions we never should share beliefs with anyone. Exactly what Satan wants. Your thought process is the slippery slope. The real truth of the real only Godhead will yield good, not evil. That doesn’t mean there won’t be an occasional devil that creeps in. What won’t happen they will be there long and create your examples of genocide like the Spanish Inquisition or the Holocaust. So no, you are wrong.

Oh----the genocides of the world were created by your little man with the red pitchfork ----down there
in his KINGDOM CALLED HELL? ----that and the candy house of the wicked witch

 

[Cougarbear]

ATTENTION! I REPEAT! ATTENTION! I REPEAT! NOW HEAR THIS!

The Holy Spirit, the very Spirit of truth, wants you to know;

You don't have to wait to be a god. You are already the god of your very own delusional fantasy world.

Shouldn't a god in training have better things to do than try and convince intelligent people you are not insane? Now off you go dingbat! There is a planet out there somewhere in the universe waiting for its god to show up.










So let it be written. So let it be done!

You prove my point. We are gods and children of God learning more and more. Gaining experiences that will be necessary when we are given our own mansion (universe). We are gods in embryo. Part of that is to let others know the fullness of the Gospel so they too can reach their potential and their families can be forever too. Your approach is selfish.

 

[hobelim]

We are gods and children of God

WE? How many of you are there who are gods?

"To commit sin is to break God's Law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared ,as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man, therefore, who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled; it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the Divine seed remains in him, he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil. No one who does not do what is right is God's child, neither is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10



"NO ONE WHO DOES NOT DO WHAT IS RIGHT IS GOD'S CHILD."

 

[Cougarbear]

"To commit sin is to break God's Law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared ,as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man, therefore, who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled; it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the Divine seed remains in him, he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil. No one who does not do what is right is God's child, neither is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

A childhood friend was Southern Baptist who believes that once you are saved you no longer can sin. You are saved. So, if you murder someone, no worries. You are saved. You can rape someone. No worries. You are saved. His dad was the church minister. My friend was hanging around low life’s and getting into drugs. So, his dad got a group of other kids to go on an overnight outing. He told the other kids to work on him to get him back on the straight and narrow. He was so mad and unhappy about it and ran away. A friend of his dad reminded him that he was already saved. Don’t worry about him. While his dad preached your crap, he knew it wasn’t right and true. We all sin and fall short the glory of God while here on earth. Repentant is a life long endeavor. While hopefully the sins become less and less, everyday we need to repent and ask for forgiveness.

 

[irosie91]

A childhood friend was Southern Baptist who believes that once you are saved you no longer can sin. You are saved. So, if you murder someone, no worries. You are saved. You can rape someone. No worries. You are saved. His dad was the church minister. My friend was hanging around low life’s and getting into drugs. So, his dad got a group of other kids to go on an overnight outing. He told the other kids to work on him to get him back on the straight and narrow. He was so mad and unhappy about it and ran away. A friend of his dad reminded him that he was already saved. Don’t worry about him. While his dad preached your crap, he knew it wasn’t right and true. We all sin and fall short the glory of God while here on earth. Repentant is a life long endeavor. While hopefully the sins become less and less, everyday we need to repent and ask for forgiveness.

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