Heartbeat act fails in Nebraska

[Blues Man]

“A lot” don’t think killing an 8.5 month old baby is murder? Somehow I think you just made that up.

In this poll, 23% agree with abortion at any time, thus up until birth

Majority Of Americans Support Abortion, Poll Finds — But Not Later In The Pregnancy

The Supreme Court will soon consider whether abortion should be made illegal earlier in the pregnancy.

www.forbes.com

Very few of the population think it’s okay, we just have radicals and cowards in the democrat party, willing to sacrifice their protection of human rights to appease a rabid, angry, savage niche radical group. The entire senate representing all leftists voted to represent 23%. They are controlled.

you keep saying “it doesn’t happen” (it does.. rarely, but it does).. yet don’t want to act against it. With human life, a direct intent to end the life of a person, one time is too many. Why are you allowing the possibility?

Your avoidance of laws is also really odd. We set our morality through our laws. It’s why western civilization is the most moral and best on earth. I think (hope) you’re just so beholden to leftist feminist groups that you dare not speak against even the most radical ones.. you can’t call out your own side. You know leftism and feminism can go too far, and here it is.

If something is morally wrong, make it illegal. Boom.. done. This isn’t hard. You want to delve into some vague abyss of uncertainty.. mostly to run from my declarative, supported points/statements.

That’s blatantly testing God… which is a big no-no if you’re going to now introduce Christian theology. Abortion isn’t centrally a religious debate, but if you’re a dedicated Christian, it is shocking that you’d hold such inhumane views. You’d be outside of Christs teachings by any measure.

The fact is that only 1% of abortions have ever occurred after the 21st week of pregnancy.

Most abortions are done before week 11 of pregnancy

 

[Frankenstein]

Like I've always said, your opinion is just an opinion. It bears no weight on me, and no entity or person should have the power to overrule one's opinion. Good luck. Kill it, I can live with that, at least you didn't foolishly say it was murder. Thanks.

No it's fact! It is a human, and will always be human, however you, and your liberal progressive baby killing friends have so dehumanized it, people no longer understand the truth, and of course it's murder, pre meditated murder.

 

[Frankenstein]

The fact is that only 1% of abortions have ever occurred after the 21st week of pregnancy.

Most abortions are done before week 11 of pregnancy

Facts are 97% of abortions are done for convenience.

 

[Frankenstein]

Hey if you like that go ask someone else

I don't swing that way

Huh? you kiss your liberal progressive masters arse all day!

 

[Foxfyre]

Like all life, there is progression. A heart doesn't just pop into place, it gradually forms. At 6 weeks the " Heart " is comparable to that of an earthworm. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, remember that one from Bio 101.

The point is that there is a detectable heart at six weeks. And the heart is completely formed by 10 weeks which is roughly the time the baby's brain begins regulating the heart beat.

I'm not as rigid as some on the issue of abortion as I do believe there are ethical/moral reasons that abortion should be done however rare these are.

My argument on the issue is not so much when abortion on demand should be legal as it is to be 100% honest that it is a human being with all the potential of the human condition that is being killed whatever the state of development that person might be.

 

[Blues Man]

Facts are 97% of abortions are done for convenience.

So what?

And I don't think that living in poverty because you have a child you can't afford is very convenient.

 

[Blues Man]

Huh? you kiss your liberal progressive masters arse all day!

Yeh OK how many liberal progressives do you know that are pro 2nd Amendment?

You 2 dimensional idiots always make me laugh

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The fact is that only 1% of abortions have ever occurred after the 21st week of pregnancy.

That’s because it’s been illegal after that, that’s a false statistic in this context.

If we make it legal up until birth, it’s an absolute certainty the number would rise.

Most abortions are done before week 11 of pregnancy

“Most”… are suggesting that if murder (aborting a third trimester baby)“mostly” doesn’t happen, we should just forget about the victims?

That’s ridiculous. All murder should be opposed. One supported, intentional murder that isn’t illegal is too many. Stop trying to minimize this, it’s a lame defense mechanism.. especially coming from a left winger

 

[Blues Man]

That’s because it’s been illegal after that, that’s a false statistic in this context.

If we make it legal up until birth, it’s an absolute certainty the number would rise.

“Most”… are suggesting that if murder (aborting a third trimester baby)“mostly” doesn’t happen, we should just forget about the victims?

That’s ridiculous. All murder should be opposed. One supported, intentional murder that isn’t illegal is too many. Stop trying to minimize this, it’s a lame defense mechanism.. especially coming from a left winger

No it hasn't been illegal after 21 weeks because as I stated only 1% of all abortions in the last 50 years have occurred after week 21.

You want to focus on the 1% but you refuse to realize that most abortions occur by week 11

 

[Mr. Friscus]

No it hasn't been illegal after 21 weeks because as I stated only 1% of all abortions in the last 50 years have occurred after week 21.

The law had been around 20 weeks for years.. what are you talking about??

Show me where it’s been higher in the last 50 years besides the crazed democrats who just tried to pass up until birth.

You want to focus on the 1% but you refuse to realize that most abortions occur by week 11

indeed, and that’s a different discussion. You’re late to this one. We’re talking about an 8.5 month baby, and addressing it because it’s a moral/societal question that the left often appears to refuse to denounce.

Do you denounce killing an 8.5 month baby?

 

[Stann]

“A lot” don’t think killing an 8.5 month old baby is murder? Somehow I think you just made that up.

In this poll, 23% agree with abortion at any time, thus up until birth

Majority Of Americans Support Abortion, Poll Finds — But Not Later In The Pregnancy

The Supreme Court will soon consider whether abortion should be made illegal earlier in the pregnancy.

www.forbes.com

Very few of the population think it’s okay, we just have radicals and cowards in the democrat party, willing to sacrifice their protection of human rights to appease a rabid, angry, savage niche radical group. The entire senate representing all leftists voted to represent 23%. They are controlled.

you keep saying “it doesn’t happen” (it does.. rarely, but it does).. yet don’t want to act against it. With human life, a direct intent to end the life of a person, one time is too many. Why are you allowing the possibility?

Your avoidance of laws is also really odd. We set our morality through our laws. It’s why western civilization is the most moral and best on earth. I think (hope) you’re just so beholden to leftist feminist groups that you dare not speak against even the most radical ones.. you can’t call out your own side. You know leftism and feminism can go too far, and here it is.

If something is morally wrong, make it illegal. Boom.. done. This isn’t hard. You want to delve into some vague abyss of uncertainty.. mostly to run from my declarative, supported points/statement.

Our laws are based on ethics, morals are changeable and not reliable plus they vary a lot from one group to another and even within the group. No two individuals have the same set of morals. Make it illegal, why ? Something was seriously wrong to do this, if it even happens at all. You are obsessed with this point. I don't believe it exists outside of your mind. There is something really wrong with you.
And I'll gladly stay in opposition to your god if it saves only 1 woman's life.

 

[Stann]

No it hasn't been illegal after 21 weeks because as I stated only 1% of all abortions in the last 50 years have occurred after week 21.

You want to focus on the 1% but you refuse to realize that most abortions occur by week 11

He's obsessed with this insignificant factor, if it exists at all.

 

[Blues Man]

The law had been around 20 weeks for years.. what are you talking about??

Show me where it’s been higher in the last 50 years besides the crazed democrats who just tried to pass up until birth.

indeed, and that’s a different discussion. You’re late to this one. We’re talking about an 8.5 month baby, and addressing it because it’s a moral/societal question that the left often appears to refuse to denounce.

Do you denounce killing an 8.5 month baby?

You post the law if you want I'm not doing your work for you but I will post this

The reality is Roe v. Wade allowed virtually any abortion, for any reason, if you could find an abortionist willing to take the child’s life. Yet that’s not how the case is presented in the media.

 

[Blues Man]

The law had been around 20 weeks for years.. what are you talking about??

Show me where it’s been higher in the last 50 years besides the crazed democrats who just tried to pass up until birth.

indeed, and that’s a different discussion. You’re late to this one. We’re talking about an 8.5 month baby, and addressing it because it’s a moral/societal question that the left often appears to refuse to denounce.

Do you denounce killing an 8.5 month baby?

I have always stated that fetal viability outside the womb is the line I would like to see.

After 22 weeks if the fetus has no fatal abnormalities then rather than killing it it could be delivered prematurely where it may or may not survive with medical support.

 

[Stann]

I have always stated that fetal viability outside the womb is the line I would like to see.

After 22 weeks if the fetus has no fatal abnormalities then rather than killing it it could be delivered prematurely where it may or may not survive with medical support.

That's the whole problem with abortion laws. Everyone is concentrating on time limits. An emergency can come up anytime during a pregnancy. Only the doctor involved knows the path to choose for the best outcome. These laws help no one.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

That's the whole problem with abortion laws. Everyone is concentrating on time limits. An emergency can come up anytime during a pregnancy. Only the doctor involved knows the path to choose for the best outcome. These laws help no one.

So you assume all doctors are elite, moral people to be unquestioned?

I’d suggest to not put so much trust in all people of a group. The amount of medical malpractice deaths per year is staggering.

Didn’t we learn a lesson from COVID and believing Fauci? He was wrong on nearly everything, and his recommendations caused immeasurable death, suffering, psychological harm, and destruction of livelihoods.

These people are to be used as a resource, not to be trusted outright. It’s shocking to see people on the left give up their personal autonomy so happily. Such a large group of people being so naive is harmful to society.. like, question things, make sure people know what they’re doing and it makes sense. Don’t just swallow it while.

 

[Stann]

So you assume all doctors are elite, moral people to be unquestioned?

I’d suggest to not put so much trust in all people of a group. The amount of medical malpractice deaths per year is staggering.

Didn’t we learn a lesson from COVID and believing Fauci? He was wrong on nearly everything, and his recommendations caused immeasurable death, suffering, psychological harm, and destruction of livelihoods. These people are to be used as a resource, not to be trusted outright.

So you're going to punish all doctors because there may be a few bad ones. There are laws against criminal activity, let the police root out the bad ones.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

So you're going to punish all doctors because there may be a few bad ones. There are laws against criminal activity, let the police root out the bad ones.

Huh? I’m not “punishing” anyone.. I’m pointing out factual and undeniable truths. If it’s “punishing” to you to question people that your argument requires You to exalt, all I can say is you need To stop being so sensitive and fragile, because that’s entirely irrational.

I’m telling you to It’s shocking to see people on the left give up their personal autonomy so happily. Such a large group of people being so naive is harmful to society.. like, question things, make sure people know what they’re doing and it makes sense. Don’t just swallow it whole.

 

[Stann]

Huh? I’m not “punishing” anyone.. I’m pointing out factual and undeniable truths. If it’s “punishing” to you to question people that your argument requires You to exalt, all I can say is you need To stop being so sensitive and fragile, because that’s entirely irrational.

I’m telling you to It’s shocking to see people on the left give up their personal autonomy so happily. Such a large group of people being so naive is harmful to society.. like, question things, make sure people know what they’re doing and it makes sense. Don’t just swallow it whole.

And you republicans questioning everything and anything doesn't make any sense. Like trump's 63 lawsuits over the election. All meaningless, all redundant. Doctors take an oath, you couldn't pay me enough to be a doctor. I'm dedicated but I want to have a life too. If you don't trust anyone you're all alone in this world. Why be so pessimistic; do you really think it does anyone any good.

 

[Frankenstein]

So what?

And I don't think that living in poverty because you have a child you can't afford is very convenient.

You do know what causes pregnancy right?