Heartbeat act fails in Nebraska

[Mr. Friscus]

It would be better if they never gave birth to them in the first place

there’s that leftist anti-liberty that’s crawling under your skin.

Tell me genius.. who decides whether a child should have been born.. you? A government panel? How about you ask the child if they’d want to just forfeit their lives.

It’s odd that all you abortion-crazed folk have the luxury of having already been born. Aren’t you glad your mom wasn’t hard up for cash? You’d be shouting from the womb for her to kill you so she could live more comfortably?

 

[Stann]

An 8.5 month baby that is aborted is murdered. If you can’t admit that, you’re a very sick person

I just looked it up in those very rare cases in late pregnancy if the mother's life is in danger or the fetus is in trouble, they do not do abortions. They induce labor. The mother's life is no longer at risk in doing so and if the fetus is meant to survive it most likely will.

 

[Stann]

there’s that leftist anti-liberty that’s crawling under your skin.

Tell me genius.. who decides whether a child should have been born.. you? A government panel? How about you ask the child if they’d want to just forfeit their lives.

It’s odd that all you abortion-crazed folk have the luxury of having already been born. Aren’t you glad your mom wasn’t hard up for cash? You’d be shouting from the womb for her to kill you so she could live more comfortably?

The woman and her doctor. I know you think you have it all figured out. You don't . It's a very complicated issue and no two cases are alike. Sorry to burst your bubble but that's why it's best if only a trusted personal professional doctor and the woman should be involved in the decision making process.

 

[easyt65]

Doctors say someone is clinically dead when they show no signs of brain activity.

So why doesn't the opposite apply to life in regards to abortion - a baby is alive / a person when brain activity is detected?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I just looked it up in those very rare cases in late pregnancy if the mother's life is in danger or the fetus is in trouble, they do not do abortions.

The democrats tried to codify Roe (and thankfully failed) which would allow abortion until birth via vague language

They induce labor. The mother's life is no longer at risk in doing so and if the fetus is meant to survive it most likely will.

In the bill It’s not mothers life, it’s mothers “health”. So Depression would count.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The woman and her doctor. I know you think you have it all figured out. You don't . It's a very complicated issue and no two cases are alike. Sorry to burst your bubble but that's why it's best if only a trusted personal professional doctor and the woman should be involved in the decision making process.

Women don’t decide when a human becomes a human. That’s a philosophical, scientific issue of society and mankind in general. Women do not have any super knowledge that gives them any elevated insight. That’s just foolish

 

[Stann]

Doctors say someone is clinically dead when they show no signs of brain activity.

So why doesn't the opposite apply to life in regards to abortion - a baby is alive / a person when brain activity is detected?

That's an interesting question. The people doctors declare clinically dead have no higher brain functions left, just motor functions. A fetus only has motor function, it has no self-awareness either so they could be declared clinically dead I guess. Strange way to look at it though.

 

[Stann]

The democrats tried to codify Roe (and thankfully failed) which would allow abortion until birth via vague language

In the bill It’s not mothers life, it’s mothers “health”. So Depression would count.

You are still going on about the legal ramifications. I don't care about that, I know it's wrong to view this issue that way.

 

[Stann]

Women don’t decide when a human becomes a human. That’s a philosophical, scientific issue of society and mankind in general. Women do not have any super knowledge that gives them any elevated insight. That’s just foolish

That was not discussed, what was,was who should be responsible for giving birth or having an abortion.

 

[Blues Man]

Someone did

It wasn't me

So maybe you should not reply to me about what some other person says

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You are still going on about the legal ramifications. I don't care about that, I know it's wrong to view this issue that way.

How can it not matter when 49 people in a 100 seat senate advocate for allowing the murder of an 8.5 month old baby??

Isn’t that rather shocking? This isn’t some small niche in the Democrat party, it’s a mainstream belief. Their overall stance is the most radical position on the left one can hold, they are at 100% radicalization on abortion. How does that happen in a political party? It shows how much the crazed in that party have gained power, or how cowardly those who might secretly not agree but fear saying anything to avoid having the woke gestapo come get them. Either way, the reason doesn’t matter… they support it, they voted for it, and they own it. It’s disgusting immorality of the worst kind, and your beloved party supports and celebrates it.

You ought to feel shame, and should call out your leftist brethren who have become so radicalized and evil

 

[Mr. Friscus]

That was not discussed, what was,was who should be responsible for giving birth or having an abortion.

It has to be discussed. The definition of a human does not change because a single woman feels scared or is financially struggling, and an immoral doctor agrees to assist her in very evil acts.

Humans have basic fundamental human and civil rights. You’re saying any single woman and/or single doctor can ignore those based on how she feels. That’s very creepy. You ought not put such power in random peoples hands.. how do you think the baby would vote in that decision??

You’ve been swindled by a very radical inhumane movement which has armed you with illogical irrational talking points. It’s very predictable yet sad to see. Here’s to hoping empathy for the child and holding accountability for the woman grow in you.

 

[Frankenstein]

There are 2 answers to that question. The emotional, irresponsible one is, " IT'S A BABY ! " The scientific, responsible one is, " it's a fetus. " It depends on how crazy you want to get over someone else's personal business.

One is true, the Baby part, the other is used to dehumanize the baby, so people won't feel guilt or shame killing it.

 

[Frankenstein]

It wasn't me

So maybe you should not reply to me about what some other person says

Perhaps you should kiss my arse.

 

[Stann]

How can it not matter when 49 people in a 100 seat senate advocate for allowing the murder of an 8.5 month old baby??

Isn’t that rather shocking? This isn’t some small niche in the Democrat party, it’s a mainstream belief. Their overall stance is the most radical position on the left one can hold, they are at 100% radicalization on abortion. How does that happen in a political party? It shows how much the crazed in that party have gained power, or how cowardly those who might secretly not agree but fear saying anything to avoid having the woke gestapo come get them. Either way, the reason doesn’t matter… they support it, they voted for it, and they own it. It’s disgusting immorality of the worst kind, and your beloved party supports and celebrates it.

You ought to feel shame, and should call out your leftist brethren who have become so radicalized and evil

A lot of people do not believe it is murder.But what you keep insisting about is is not the case to begin with. It's an ignorant statement. Even if you attempt to give an example I don't believe you. Only 1 % of abortions occur after 24 weeks and I tried to look up an abortion after 37 weeks and got no information. The last regular checkup is 30 weeks so if they discover terrible problems then the abortion would occur immediately. Anything else would have to have been a real emergency after that point, and with today's technology a fetus can be viable ( but have a lot of problems ) after 25 weeks. Again if it happens that late, the women are induced. If the fetus was the problem it will be given only palliative care. If God wants it to live he will make it so, otherwise it wasn't meant to be.

 

[Stann]

One is true, the Baby part, the other is used to dehumanize the baby, so people won't feel guilt or shame killing it.

Like I've always said, your opinion is just an opinion. It bears no weight on me, and no entity or person should have the power to overrule one's opinion. Good luck. Kill it, I can live with that, at least you didn't foolishly say it was murder. Thanks.

 

[Blues Man]

Perhaps you should kiss my arse.

Hey if you like that go ask someone else

I don't swing that way

 

[Stann]

FfIt's not a heartbeat at six weeks. It's a group of cells that sporaticaly pulse, and eventually will become part of a heart. The sound is not the sound of a heartbeat. It's electronically generated by the equipment being used.

" Minds matter, and so the fact that embryos and early fetuses completely lack minds-due to initially to the absence of a brain and nervous system, and later due to these not being sufficiently developed to support consciousness - it's what's morally significant, not the fetuses heartbeat, or can move, or even respond to stimuli, if the responses aren't genuinely felt by the fetus. " Exert from : Home>03...F... 3 fetal consciousness& Facts about abortion - Humanities.. utilizing data from the National Science Foundation. Please note also, young infants aren't even self - aware until 15 to 18 months when they exhibit reflective self - awareness / mirror self - recognition, before that time they cannot distinguish themselves as a individual, separate from other objects and people in the world.

 

[Stann]

Is that really a Live Science article? They sometimes post some pretty speculative stuff but I've never seen them miss the mark that far.

19.5 Development of the Heart – Anatomy & Physiology

open.oregonstate.education

Like all life, there is progression. A heart doesn't just pop into place, it gradually forms. At 6 weeks the " Heart " is comparable to that of an earthworm. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, remember that one from Bio 101.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

A lot of people do not believe it is murder.

“A lot” don’t think killing an 8.5 month old baby is murder? Somehow I think you just made that up.

In this poll, 23% agree with abortion at any time, thus up until birth

Majority Of Americans Support Abortion, Poll Finds — But Not Later In The Pregnancy

The Supreme Court will soon consider whether abortion should be made illegal earlier in the pregnancy.

www.forbes.com

Very few of the population think it’s okay, we just have radicals and cowards in the democrat party, willing to sacrifice their protection of human rights to appease a rabid, angry, savage niche radical group. The entire senate representing all leftists voted to represent 23%. They are controlled.

But what you keep insisting about is is not the case to begin with. It's an ignorant statement. Even if you attempt to give an example I don't believe you. Only 1 % of abortions occur after 24 weeks and I tried to look up an abortion after 37 weeks and got no information.

you keep saying “it doesn’t happen” (it does.. rarely, but it does).. yet don’t want to act against it. With human life, a direct intent to end the life of a person, one time is too many. Why are you allowing the possibility?

Your avoidance of laws is also really odd. We set our morality through our laws. It’s why western civilization is the most moral and best on earth. I think (hope) you’re just so beholden to leftist feminist groups that you dare not speak against even the most radical ones.. you can’t call out your own side. You know leftism and feminism can go too far, and here it is.

If something is morally wrong, make it illegal. Boom.. done. This isn’t hard. You want to delve into some vague abyss of uncertainty.. mostly to run from my declarative, supported points/statements.

If God wants it to live he will make it so, otherwise it wasn't meant to be.

That’s blatantly testing God… which is a big no-no if you’re going to now introduce Christian theology. Abortion isn’t centrally a religious debate, but if you’re a dedicated Christian, it is shocking that you’d hold such inhumane views. You’d be outside of Christs teachings by any measure.