Healthcare in the US is a privilege

[Captain Caveman]

I actually met someone from the UK who had a son who was misdiagnosed in the UK. He said over there he had no legal recourse to sue the doctor for a misdiagnosis or anything else for that matter, and other doctors in the UK were reluctant to overturn a diagnosis from one of their peeps, so he came to the US where they treated his son correctly and he is fine today.

I told him he needs to tell his story to others because people need to know this stuff.

Misdiagnosis happens in every country.

 

[Votto]

All figures are average. On average, healthcare is double in the US than the UK.

The only time politicians seem to cry about cost and keeping costs down is when it comes to health care for the average person.

Why is that?

 

[TNHarley]

That's why it's called "On Average".

That means, some pay more, some pay less.

In the UK, some pay more tax, some pay less tax.

So on average.............

Do Americans know what "on average" means?

Do I need to do some simple numbers, some simple maths(s)?

I dont give a damn. My healthcare is less than half the cost of yours. And you want to brag about it?

 

[Votto]

Misdiagnosis happens in every country.

Yes, but in the US you can sue and/or you can go to other countries who will diagnose you correctly and treat you.

That is the point.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The only time politicians seem to cry about cost and keeping costs down is when it comes to health care for the average person.

Why is that?

Politicians have the knack to massage every figure on the planet, especially when it comes to expenses.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yes, but in the US you can sue and/or you can go to other countries who will diagnose you correctly and treat you.

That is the point.

You often can sue in the UK for medical negligence. That case must have been unique in some way. Is there a link to the details of it?

 

[Captain Caveman]

I dont give a damn. My healthcare is less than half the cost of yours. And you want to brag about it?

And mine is less than yours, do you want to brag about it?

 

[dblack]

I hate the government and private health care insurance, as both turn you down at times, even universal care turns you down for things in these other countries like England or Canada.

In fact, in the US the government turns more people down that private care insurance, something no one ever talks about

What I would like to see instead, is for people to be able to put tax free money aside into an account that can accumulate over time that can only be used for your health care. Then when you need it, the money is there and you don't have to go begging to an ass hole insurance company or the indifferent government that never has to answer to anyone for how badly they treat others in such cases, as the media ignores it entirely. Only private insurance companies that turn you down the media covers, which is why Luigi went hunting a health care CEO. Left wing propaganda convinced him he deserved to die. I'm just tired of the BS. You never see people hunt down government officials that turn people down for health care. Why is that?

Then, lets say you can use that money for your family as well, or even for friends.

If implemented, you will begin to have entire populations of Americans who are not dependent on private insurance or government insurance, which is exactly why it will never be allowed.

That's an HSA. Paired with high-deductible, low premium "catastrophic" insurance, it was a promising reform pointing us in a better direction. But ACA declared the catastrophic policies "junk" and outlawed them.

 

[BothWings]

My healthcare has always taken care of me pretty well and doesn't really cost me all that much. If it suddenly became socialized, very likely our taxes would increase as a result of it, and it would NO LONGER be a matter of choice. 6 of one/half dozen of the other...except in on case you get to decide, then with the other they decide for you.

Back when Obamacare was signed into action, my insurance rates went up and i had to switch doctors due to the bureaucratic conditions in the business which precipitated as a result.
(Exactly what Obummer what told us would happen). While my costs did not increase astronomically, they DID increase. Have any of these states which now sell weed for profit actually used the money to create free healthcare? I'm not really for the government selling weed, but at least in that case it would a very noble use for the revenue.

 

[Votto]

And mine is less than yours, do you want to brag about it?

Really? Know all about my finances do ya?

 

[Votto]

That's an HSA. Paired with high-deductible, low premium "catastrophic" insurance, it was a promising reform pointing us in a better direction. But ACA declared the catastrophic policies "junk" and outlawed them.

I know places that let you take tax free money out during the year but if you don't use it within a year you lose it.

Why not let them keep it? It is their money after all.

 

[MarcATL]

Our taxes should pay for healthcare, w/an option for private insurance for those who are privileged enough to not exercise patience.

 

[Votto]

Our taxes should pay for healthcare, w/an option for private insurance for those who are privileged enough to not exercise patience.

I agree that if government is going to spend any amount of money on any social programs, it should be to help keep people alive medically instead of all this DEI crap.

But no.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Really? Know all about my finances do ya?

Really? Know all about my finances do ya?

 

[dblack]

I know places that let you take tax free money out during the year but if you don't use it within a year you lose it.

Why not let them keep it? It is their money after all.

Yeah - that's an FSA "Flexible Spending Account". It's just an incentive to get you to spend more on healthcare. It's a ripoff in my view. It's basically a bet that you're going to spend a certain amount on health care for the year. Guess wrong and you lose.

An HSA "Healthcare Savings Account" is basically what you described. The incentives are the opposite of an FSA. It encourages you to spend less on health care because the money is yours to keep if you don't spend it.

 

[Votto]

Really? Know all about my finances do ya?

You made the claim that yours was cheaper, not me.

All I can say for sure though is that mine is bigger.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You made the claim that yours was cheaper, not me.

All I can say for sure though is that mine is bigger.

On average, thick Jeremy Hunt. Why are Yanks so retarded? Genes, retards on Mayflower?

 

[dblack]

Our taxes should pay for healthcare, w/an option for private insurance for those who are privileged enough to not exercise patience.

I don't want Trump in charge of my healthcare.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I don't want Trump in charge of my healthcare.

The president wouldn't be, you would have trusts dealing with it.

 

[MarcATL]

I don't want Trump in charge of my healthcare.

He won't be in charge of it.